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What should an employer be able to have an employee or potential employee submit to?

What should an employer be able to have an employee or potential employee submit to?

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Re: What should an employer be able to have an employee or potential employee submit

Binary_Digit said:
If the position requires driving, do you also test for alcohol use? Why not? They might drive while drunk on the job.
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They also might come in and throw anthrax around the office, too, but I don't test for lab access. If I spot intoxication at work, their asses are out of here though.

I mean, that's the exact same reasoning you use to justify drug testing isn't it?
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No, it isn't. I don't personally drug test unless I have a reason to do so. When I do have a reason, it's because of job performance issues that are already present, not because of what they might do.

OMG they might get stoned on the job!1!11 So where's the test for alcohol use?
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Probably hanging out with the point of your posts somewhere...

If you think you need to know whether they smoked a joint over a week ago, why wouldn't you need to know that they drank a 12-pack last weekend also??
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Not my concern if they drank alcohol as long as it isn't evident when they show up to work. I. DON'T. CARE. ABOUT. ALCOHOL. If the government isn't prohibiting it, neither am I.

So what? It's not your job to enforce the laws. You might say you care about a perspective employee's respect for the law, but of course that goes out the window if you don't also check for driving violations (even if the position doesn't require driving). If you care about recreational habits but you don't care about other ways they break the law, you're a hypocrite. The point still stands.
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No, your point fails on so many levels it isn't even funny. It's my responsibility to enforce policies at work that make for a productive and safe envirionment. I don't care about recreational habits. I care about work habits. And if recreational habits cause issues at work, then it becomes my business.

You've clearly never been responsible for running anything much larger than an ant farm.
 
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Re: What should an employer be able to have an employee or potential employee submit

jallman said:
No, it isn't. I don't personally drug test unless I have a reason to do so. When I do have a reason, it's because of job performance issues that are already present, not because of what they might do.
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Thank you. You seem to be more consistent than the employers I'm talking about - who drug test by default as if it actually means something, while ignoring the congruently intoxicating effects of recreational alcohol or the danger to society and blatant disregard for the law that is speeding.
 
Re: What should an employer be able to have an employee or potential employee submit

What's wrong with having to give a good old fashioned hummer to get that promotion?
 
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