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Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 24.4%
  • No

    Votes: 62 75.6%

  • Total voters
    82
FALSE ! It is an ideology of war and genocide. This is inherent in the ideology itself (all through the Koran). The people you refer to as having hijacked it, have not done that at all. They are following the words of the Koran faithfully. It is the Koran, Islam itself that is the war element.

And how might you describe those who follow the words of the Bible faithfully?

The word "insane" would probably show up quite often.
 
What makes (or doesn't make) a religion "fundamentally warlike" or "peaceful?" Is a religion purely defined by its texts, its practitioners, or both?

It depends on what context you're using.

If you're referring to the faith, itself, the belief system, that's based on the tenets laid out by the central texts. We can compare these. All religion is insane, but some are markedly less destructive, for fairly obvious reasons. It would be highly unlikely that a mass conversion to Jainism, Tibetan Buddhism, or Quakerism would be accompanied by a tidal wave of violence, for fairly obvious reasons. Unfortunately, the central Abrahamic texts are simply loaded with exhortations to commit atrocities. Therefore; we can't be entirely surprised that their adherents have a higher predisposition towards violent, antisocial behavior.
 
It depends on the version.

Which version is most civil/humane?
 
It depends on the version.

Which version is most civil/humane?

I don't know what you mean by 'version.' There might be minute differences between translations, but one shouldn't expect any significent differences. The problem is the ideas within, not the way they are presented.
 
It depends on what context you're using.

If you're referring to the faith, itself, the belief system, that's based on the tenets laid out by the central texts. We can compare these. All religion is insane, but some are markedly less destructive, for fairly obvious reasons. It would be highly unlikely that a mass conversion to Jainism, Tibetan Buddhism, or Quakerism would be accompanied by a tidal wave of violence, for fairly obvious reasons. Unfortunately, the central Abrahamic texts are simply loaded with exhortations to commit atrocities. Therefore; we can't be entirely surprised that their adherents have a higher predisposition towards violent, antisocial behavior.

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here, although I don't believe that this somehow makes the Abrahamic religions fundamentally or inherently barbaric. After all, on the flip side scriptures in all three also echo some form of the Golden Rule and "love your fellow man."

Also, the three faiths you listed aren't really proselytizing religions (or at the very least not to the degree that the Abrahamic faiths are). That's also an important distinction, and makes me wonder if posing the hypothetical of a mass conversion to any of those religions even makes sense.
 
Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?

I would say no its not evil. And war is not evil. I do not know if Graham read the bible but you can kinds all kind of examples of war in the bible.
 
Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?

How about: Is Franklin Graham's cranial cavity filled with turds? I'd say, "Yes, I never thought otherwise."
 
You could make that general comment about many religions. Christianity was spread through war - the Roman empire adopted Christianity, and it was forced upon the pagans by law.

Not until long after it had spread through peaceful uncoerced conversion within the empire, in fact Rome persecuted Christians.


After Rome fell, and the Papacy was created, the Crusades spread Christianity at the tip of a sword. Later, the Inquisitions attempted to root out heresy while upholding piety.

Actually the crusades did not spread Christianity they were fought in lands that were already Christian and had been conquered by t Muslims.
 
At this point I can say that I know NO religion is 100% good. I can also say that Islam has caused a LOT of pain and HORRIBLE barbarian, sub-human, disgusting acts than anything since the Aztecs.
For ME, I welcome GOOD people and I dont care what religion they belong to. A good-hearted man prevails over ANY religion.
 
Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?

no more than Christianity has been over the centuries but I grant you at this particular minute Christianity is not and a sizable minority of islam is. it has not always been this way and will not stay this way
 
I pretty much agree with everything you've said here, although I don't believe that this somehow makes the Abrahamic religions fundamentally or inherently barbaric. After all, on the flip side scriptures in all three also echo some form of the Golden Rule and "love your fellow man."

If only that was all they said. These creeds also list numerous instances when not to love ones' fellow man, and, in fact, to inflict various forms of brutality on ones' fellow man, chief among them being subscribing to any other creed.

Also, the three faiths you listed aren't really proselytizing religions (or at the very least not to the degree that the Abrahamic faiths are). That's also an important distinction, and makes me wonder if posing the hypothetical of a mass conversion to any of those religions even makes sense.

Religion doesn't make sense. It is, by definition, nonsensical.

The point is we can see a correlation between these respective creeds and human behavior.
 
According to the Prophet Muhammad, yes.
 
This is wildly incorrect. there are plenty of doctrinal differences between the two that expose one or the other depending on your preferences.

Think that government and religion should be one and the same? Christianity is wrong and Islam is your answer. Think that war on the unbelievers isn't a religious duty imposed by the founder of your faith? Well, then chalk one up for Christianity, and chalk one down for Islam. Should the state taxes be considered the same as and used for charity? pick Islam for yes, Christianity for no.
 
This is wildly incorrect. there are plenty of doctrinal differences between the two that expose one or the other depending on your preferences.

There are differences, but nothing I would see any reason to attach any serious importance to.

Think that government and religion should be one and the same? Christianity is wrong and Islam is your answer.

Well, seeing as Christianity doesn't really allow any deviation from it's perscriptions, basically, the only government it is compatible with is a Christian government, or a de facto Christian government.

Think that war on the unbelievers isn't a religious duty imposed by the founder of your faith? Well, then chalk one up for Christianity, and chalk one down for Islam.

Well, that's a bit tricky; 'By the founder of your faith.' That's a neat little modifier. Still, I would say; yes. Jesus, this character, only makes a few outright exhortations to violence, like, for example, in Luke 19: 27; 'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.' However, he repeatedly states that the law as written in the Old Testament still applies just as much as ever. So, killing unbelievers, as well as homosexuals, disobediant children, and any number of others, is not only condoned, but encouraged by the Bible. So, there's really no moral difference, here.
 
Is Christianity evil?
Is Judaism evil?

This is another dumb ****ing poll!
 
islam is a copy of Christianity and judaism, judaism has many problems in itself but that is to be mentioned in another topic. Christianity was founded along with the world being founded 8,000 years ago by the Lord all mighty, then our savior Jesus Christ , 2,000 years ago, founded our religion then was killed by judaic monsters becuase of that. islam is a copy made some hundred years later attempting to equal our Religon but it does not becase it promotes hate and torture and rape of women and makes women were head dresses it says in the korin that w oman need to wear head dress and that molest is ok that is not in our bible old testmaent or new testmanet islam is a religon of animals and pigs and they are all very happy since november 4th 2008 when their leader B. Hussein became president thats why no more attacks , cause they do not want to embareiss their leader
 
islam is a copy of Christianity and judaism, judaism has many problems in itself but that is to be mentioned in another topic. Christianity was founded along with the world being founded 8,000 years ago by the Lord all mighty, then our savior Jesus Christ , 2,000 years ago, founded our religion then was killed by judaic monsters becuase of that. islam is a copy made some hundred years later attempting to equal our Religon but it does not becase it promotes hate and torture and rape of women and makes women were head dresses it says in the korin that w oman need to wear head dress and that molest is ok that is not in our bible old testmaent or new testmanet islam is a religon of animals and pigs and they are all very happy since november 4th 2008 when their leader B. Hussein became president thats why no more attacks , cause they do not want to embareiss their leader

Wow. You really know NOTHING about religion, do you? Judaism predates Christianity by 3500+ years. Jesus was JEWISH. That's just the start. Everything else is just so ridiculously ignorant, it doesn't even need to be addressed. I'll tell you again... EDUCATE YOURSELF. You have now been humilated in TWO threads. Congratulations.
 
Wow. You really know NOTHING about religion, do you? Judaism predates Christianity by 3500+ years. Jesus was JEWISH. That's just the start. Everything else is just so ridiculously ignorant, it doesn't even need to be addressed. I'll tell you again... EDUCATE YOURSELF. You have now been humilated in TWO threads. Congratulations.

Yuppers..... I agree 110%
 
Islam, like other religions, leaves enough leeway for its different followers to emphasize different aspects. Quran, like OT and NT, even has many contradictions, which asks for different interpretations. Are there sections in Quran that are warmongering? Without any doubt. I'd say Quran can easier be used/abused to justify war and violence, than the NT (and maybe the OT too, not sure about that). But without any doubt, many Muslims don't do that, but rather emphasize the more peaceful aspects.

A long story short: I don't think you can call an entire religion, with all its contradictions, a "religion of war", because this would imply there is just one true way to follow this religion, which obviously is not true. But even if you call Islam a "religion of war", people aren't necessarily warmongers, just because they are Muslims.
 
People should read the Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnah just to inform themselves.
 
Bush ran out of cheeks to turn I guess. He used all 4.
 
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I disagree. I think the Abrahamic faiths are uniformly, fundamentally, barbaric. My only criticism is that Islam is being unfairly singled out.

Unfairly ? Try 270 million people killed over 1400 years. 120 million Africans. 60 million Christians. 80 million Hindus, and 10 million Buddhists. No ideology, cult, religion, or nation even comes close to that horrific figure, and the jihadists of this abomination are still at it today.
Maybe the reason why Islam is singled out is because they continue to commit the barbaric acts (and lots more than murder), and the others don't.
 
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