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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

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davidtaylorjr said:
If I don't want to pay double I am, you seem to like not answering the question.

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You are not paying double. Your child still can go to the public school.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
If I don't want to pay double I am, you seem to like not answering the question.

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Everybody would have to.

I payed for it before I had a son. I spouse you have to pay your taxes for the same reason I did.

Don't want to pay for private school, go to public school, simple. Want to go to private school, pay for it, don't want to pay your taxes, welcome to the club of everybody.

Have to pay your taxes or you dodge them that is a choice also, crummy consequences but it's completely dishonest to sit there and you don't have a choice because your to lazy to work harder and afford it.
 
CLAX1911 said:
same reason everybody else does. You live in a school district they Levy taxes. You have to pay taxes there is no way out, sorry that is one of life's cruel truths.


Move.

Taxes are a fact of life you will have to pay them. Price of citizenship in this country.

Why don't you leave if you don't like it?
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You are missing the point, apparently it is too much for you to comprehend.
 
ernst barkmann said:
government has duties it is to perform, teaching people morality / how to behave towards other people is not one of those powers.

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Government does have that power though and if you assault some one government will teach you a lesson or two
 
CLAX1911 said:
Everybody would have to.

I payed for it before I had a son. I spouse you have to pay your taxes for the same reason I did.

Don't want to pay for private school, go to public school, simple. Want to go to private school, pay for it, don't want to pay your taxes, welcome to the club of everybody.

Have to pay your taxes or you dodge them that is a choice also, crummy consequences but it's completely dishonest to sit there and you don't have a choice because your to lazy to work harder and afford it.
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How do you have a son?
 
winston53660 said:
Government does have that power though and if you assault some one government will teach you a lesson or two
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correct government, is here to hold you accountable if you infringe on someone rights.... is not here to teach you .....not to.

government duty is to secure the rights of the people.....if everyone got along and no one fringed on another person rights.......no government would be necessary
 
Logicman said:
I would hope so but I don't see it.

Are you talking about biblical righteousness or secular-minded 'righteousness'? Example(s) please.
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Secular righteousness. Pedophilia, incest, rape, slavery, and racism are completely condoned by the Judeo-Christian moral code. We know that those things are wrong; it's obvious that most Americans, whether they know it or not, evaluate the world with a secular view. If the numbers relevant to that view are improving, then the country is moving towards Secular righteousness. Most people, even those that claim to support the biblical righteousness view, wouldn't like the country if we moved towards it.
 
ernst barkmann said:
government is not a moral entity.....
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so why have it omit part of study to appease your morality :shrug:
it has not been given that power by a founding document......if government has the power to teach people to be tolerant, ...then does it have the power the teach people to be intolerant.
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yes. Tolerate other Americans no matter who they are, don't tolerate people who commit crimes. Perfectly right.
government has duties it is to perform, teaching people morality / how to behave towards other people is not one of those powers.
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it's the power and the responsibility of our schools, otherwise schools would be more violent than prisons. Got to teach kids violence isn't always necessary. You could have students murdering each other every day in schools. Morality is a core part of being a productive member of society.
if government had that power it could control our very life's.......in what we.... think, say, do, eat, drink .
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does control what we do, eat and drink.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Why not? Everybody else has to.
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Only people with kids should pay for education. That's fair, it would also solve some issues with bloating of pay for certain members in the education world while teachers get next to nothing.
 
ernst barkmann said:
government is not a moral entity.....it has not been given that power by a founding document......if government has the power to teach people to be tolerant, ...then does it have the power the teach people to be intolerant.

government has duties it is to perform, teaching people morality / how to behave towards other people is not one of those powers.

if government had that power it could control our very life's.......in what we.... think, say, do, eat, drink .
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If a child is ostracized by the other children because they are different for whatever reason it will be almost impossible to teach them or for them to learn. The only way to have children learn is to do it in a safe environment free from prejudices and hate. Therefore it is imperative that schools teach tolerance and understanding. It is not a matter of controlling every aspect of life it is a matter of the schools being able to do what they are supposed to do and that is teach the children, because an educated population is beneficial to all of society
 
CLAX1911 said:
so why have it omit part of study to appease your morality :shrug:
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what morality?.........where is government given authority to teach people their behavior..........i am stating law...not my feelings.


CLAX1911 said:
yes. Tolerate other Americans no matter who they are, don't tolerate people who commit crimes. Perfectly right.
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twisting here?.........i ask you ...were have you read, government can teach me their morals?

government is made-up of people who are temporary in seats of power , from the right and left........so should government teach a moral idea from that perceptive of which party temporary sits in office

committing a crime is a rights violation..it is an infringement of someone rights......be intolerant of a person, is not a rights violation



CLAX1911 said:
it's the power and the responsibility of our schools, otherwise schools would be more violent than prisons. Got to teach kids violence isn't always necessary. You could have students murdering each other every day in schools. Morality is a core part of being a productive member of society.
does control what we do, eat and drink.
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then you should be teaching them LAW and respect for the law.............not morality.

it has already been stated by people, that being ...........obese is immoral.

we have had people and governments ......that declared............drinking was immoral.

i dont know about you but government does not have the power to tell me my actions, in which i do not infringe on anyone's right is immoral......and it does not have the power to tell me........ what is moral.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Never once did I say that, that is a terrible misrepresentation of what I said and an outright lie.
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Yes you did, you want to be tax exempt because your kids would be going to private school. What does a voucher do if it doesn't return type tax dollars to you? If you therefore dint have to pay them because you are sending your kids to private school how is that not exemption from taxes?
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Only people with kids should pay for education. That's fair, it would also solve some issues with bloating of pay for certain members in the education world while teachers get next to nothing.
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Only people with kids should be able to get a doctor, unless they can prove that doctor never received any public education.
Seriously an educated public is beneficial to all whether they have children or not to make the kind of argument you are trying to make is ridiculous.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yes you did, you want to be tax exempt because your kids would be going to private school. What does a voucher do if it doesn't return type tax dollars to you? If you therefore dint have to pay them because you are sending your kids to private school how is that not exemption from taxes?
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A voucher for education =/= me getting money back. It would go to the school, not me.
 
Quag said:
Only people with kids should be able to get a doctor, unless they can prove that doctor never received any public education.
Seriously an educated public is beneficial to all whether they have children or not to make the kind of argument you are trying to make is ridiculous.
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Dumbest argument ever.
 
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