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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

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Quag said:
Don't bring up your religion at all as it is irrelevant and we wont have a problem. I replied to you posting about your ridiculous beliefs.
So if you have no religious reasons for what you are saying here we don't have a problem with that part of it.
From what I can tell of your posts you seem to think that teaching tolerance and understanding should not happen in schools. This makes no sense at all as the schools need to be an open and tolerant place so that all students regardless of their race/religion/sexual orientation/or whatever can learn in peace
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excuse i did not bring it up, ..it was already in play on the thread...i just enter that subject which was being discussed.

the attacks on faith will not work with me...sorry
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Who said anything about tax exemption? And it is not the role of the government to provide for people, people need to get up and do some work. This country has gotten lazy.
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Yet you want the government to pay for your kids private school.

You are a living contradiction.

A self entitled liberal demanding the world stop being lazy.
 
ernst barkmann said:
no its very clear.....you and the people who say something is a fact, does not make it a fact ,becuase you just say it is.......

other people who hold a different opinion than you............can they had facts if you dont agree...with their facts?
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Water is wet or do you have a different opinion?
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yet you want the government to pay for your kids private school.

You are a living contradiction.

A self entitled liberal demanding the world stop being lazy.
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no i believe he wants the government to give parents there school tax money, if the school is going to teach morality, which they disapprove of.

you would disapprove to, if the schools were teaching homosexuality was abnormal.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
You should read Timothy, it definitely DOES say that and I definitely did not make that up.
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Being that you terribly misinterpret most scripture, post chapter and verse. I will read it for myself and not rely on fifth hand misinterpretations.
 
ernst barkmann said:
no i believe he wants the government to give parents there school tax money, if the school is going to teach morality, which they disprove of.
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Your morality, your problem, why should you get special tax exempt status because of your believes? When people with no kids have to pay taxes.
you would disapprove to, if the schools were teaching homosexuality was abnormal.
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Omitting history is the same thing ad teaching prejudice.

You are arguing for that.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Your morality, your problem, why should you get special tax exempt status because of your believes? When people with no kids have to pay taxes.
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so your saying, that what you believe your ideas should be force taught to people, who do not wish to have it taught to them......and if they dont like it,.then they have to pay out of their pockets to get away from that force......so in other words they must ............bare the cost and burden, of your ideas.

however if they wish to institute their ideas, into the schools [ideas you do not believe]......you have the power to demand........no it shall not happen!



CLAX1911 said:
Omitting history is the same thing ad teaching prejudice.

You are arguing for that.
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sorry, no !
 
joko104 said:
Oh I dunno. Doesn't seem like "God's chosen people" (Jews) have had a particularly blessed history.
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Why should they? They broke their covenant with God (see Jeremiah chapter 3).

In Deuteronomy chapter 28 God lays out the blessings of obedience to the Lord, and the curses of disobedience.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
No, that isn't free choice of schools. That doesn't include better private schools that do a much better job than public schools.
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You are free to go to private schools. You have choice. You may have to move or pony up the money, but you are free to go.

Cool. We have common ground,
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yet you want the government to pay for your kids private school.

You are a living contradiction.

A self entitled liberal demanding the world stop being lazy.
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Um, you do realize your statement doesn't even make sense right?
 
CLAX1911 said:
Being that you terribly misinterpret most scripture, post chapter and verse. I will read it for myself and not rely on fifth hand misinterpretations.
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2 Tim 3:16, and I do not misinterpret most of Scripture. You ignore the facts.
 
year2late said:
You are free to go to private schools. You have choice. You may have to move or pony up the money, but you are free to go.

Cool. We have common ground,
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No, free choice would be that our money would go to our kids education where we see fit. AKA vouchers.
 
ernst barkmann said:
so your saying, that what you believe your ideas should be force taught to people, who do not wish to have to taught to them......and if they dont like it,.then they have to pay out of their pockets to get away from that force......so in other words they must ............bare the cost and burden, of your ideas.
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No, I am saying those that need a censured history because they wish to put their heads in the sand need to find schooling elsewhere. My ideas are irrelevant, the fact that your morality requires a fictional history created means it's your problem.

If you want special tax exempt status instead of dodging the most damning part of the argument address it, oh wait that would be honest. But I will try again.

If you get to be exempt from taxes taking your kids to private school why not the people who don't have kids?
however if they wish to institute their ideas, into the schools [ideas you do not believe]......you have the power to demand........no it shall not happen!
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that is what you are demanding, by omitting this important part of our society and history, you are saying it's not important.

You are forcing your beliefs on schools.




sorry, no !
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Sorry, yes!
 
davidtaylorjr said:
No, free choice would be that our money would go to our kids education where we see fit. AKA vouchers.
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Hmm what about the people that don't have kids and still pay taxes?
 
davidtaylorjr said:
No, free choice would be that our money would go to our kids education where we see fit. AKA vouchers.
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You still have choice, just no vouchers.

They call it PUBLIC school.

You have lost no freedom.

There are a lot of things my tax money goes to that I would like see diverted elsewhere. But I cannot have my way either. I have lost no freedom.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
2 Tim 3:16, and I do not misinterpret most of Scripture. You ignore the facts.
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It says every weird of scripture is God breathed. Meaning original text, not poor interpretations.

And you do misinterpret everything to fit your political beliefs.
 
CLAX1911 said:
No, I am saying those that need a censured history because they wish to put their heads in the sand need to find schooling elsewhere. My ideas are irrelevant, the fact that your morality requires a fictional history created means it's your problem.

If you want special tax exempt status instead of dodging the most damning part of the argument address it, oh wait that would be honest. But I will try again.

If you get to be exempt from taxes taking your kids to private school why not the people who don't have kids?
that is what you are demanding, by omitting this important part of our society and history, you are saying it's not important.

You are forcing your beliefs on schools.
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no i am not .......i am not advocating your position or anyone else....and there is only 2 positions....there are no more positions.......one position would be homosexuality is normal, and the other its abnormal....

i dont want either way taught to children in schools, becuase it is not a duty of government........government is not a master of morality.



CLAX1911 said:
Sorry, yes!
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i have heard this many times, you are saying its history..........in another thread someone claimed its science.......

stop the madness of ...........force on people

most of the problems of the world are cause by force!
 
winston53660 said:
Hmm what about the people that don't have kids and still pay taxes?
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They should get vouchers too!!!!!;)

Can my voucher go to WDW vacation....I learn a lot there. It is like a sociology experiment dropped into a physics lab in a multimedia workshop.
 
year2late said:
They should get vouchers too!!!!!;)

Can my voucher go to WDW vacation....I learn a lot there. It is like a sociology experiment dropped into a physics lab in a multimedia workshop.
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sounds like fun.......how many do you think you can find?
 
year2late said:
You still have choice, just no vouchers.

They call it PUBLIC school.

You have lost no freedom.

There are a lot of things my tax money goes to that I would like see diverted elsewhere. But I cannot have my way either. I have lost no freedom.
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This argument is constantly dodged. They don't get the concept of taxes. Your not paying for your kid, if so, my parents wouldn't be paying school taxes still I graduated 18 years ago.

You are paying your taxes, if you want private school that is your choice, but that choice doesn't active you of taxes.

They dodge this argument because it shreds their argument to pieces.

You don't have a choice in whether or not you pay your taxes.
 
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