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Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

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Catz Part Deux said:
Context is extremely important. I've often referred to my mixed background as "Heinz 57" or "mutt." I'm german, English, Dutch, and Seminole. My kids are all of that, plus half Filipino.

Most AMERICANS are mongrels, in the context in which Obama said it. Your posts are ridiculous.
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This response clearly indicates that you are missing the point, entirely.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
What we are seeing here is Goobie continuing to present a failed and refuted position....
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Enlighten me:
What is my position on this issue?

because he is too stubborn to admit he is wrong.
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As the ocean said to the drop of water

No one has made the argument around Obama's race or his political party.
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BUT... people HAVE said that their answer to my question is at least partially dependent on who said it.

These are the things that you HOPED people would do based on your trap.
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As you have been told before, your assumption here is wrong. You can continue to assert that your assumption is correct, but that just means you are too stubborn admit that you are wrong.

And now, since no one did, you are just creating the straw men arguments because you have nothing of actual substance to hold onto.
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See above. Your assumption is wrong. You can continue to assert that your assumption is correct, but that just means you are too stubborn admit that you are wrong.

Give it up, Goobie. You failed.
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Actually, no.
I may have failed had I the intentions you assume I had, but since your asuumptions are wrong, your statement here is as well. You can continue to assert that your assumption is correct, but that just means you are too stubborn admit that you are wrong

No one fell into what you were trying to do.
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You mean no one fell into what you think I was trying to do - but since your asuumptions are wrong, your statement here is as well. You can continue to assert that your assumption is correct, but that just means you are too stubborn admit that you are wrong

Thus:
Straw, man.
 
The Mark said:
It appears to me that Goobieman's underlying premise here is the following:
“The Media” and varied political figures (more specifically, “Liberals” and “democrats”.) are more likely to respond negatively towards a person whose statement included the phrase noted in the poll title if they are:
  1. A republican.
  2. A conservative.
  3. A white person.
  4. Etcetera.
Is this correct?
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That's one way of looking at it, thought it is a narrower view than intended.

The idea here is that some people will agree with a statement based on who said it rather than the accuracy of the statement itself. This is more often the case when someone states an opinion, but it also present in a statement of fact.

That's why the question was asked w/o reference as to who said it, so as to not pollute the responses. In all reality, it doesn't matter one whit who made the statement, as the statement is true or false, regardless. There's no way to argue otherwise.

Now, it -does- matter what was -trying- to be said, and that -was- addressed -- rather than using the word in a demeaning manner, it was used literally, to denote a mixed anscestry. This clarification was issued well over 300 posts ago. Given that, all that was needed to answer the question was present.
 
Goobieman said:
That's one way of looking at it, thought it is a narrower view than intended.

The idea here is that some people will agree with a statement based on who said it rather than the accuracy of the statement itself. This is more often the case when someone states an opinion, but it also present in a statement of fact.

That's why the question was asked w/o reference as to who said it, so as to not pollute the responses. In all reality, it doesn't matter one whit who made the statement, as the statement is true or false, regardless. There's no way to argue otherwise.

Now, it -does- matter what was -trying- to be said, and that -was- addressed -- rather than using the word in a demeaning manner, it was used literally, to denote a mixed ancestry. This clarification was issued well over 300 posts ago. Given that, all that was needed to answer the question was present.
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Ah.

However, I would think it a much more valid test to post the whole text of the statements in the OP.

As the statement "African-Americans are a mongrel people" has far more possible meanings on its own, as opposed to when it's just a portion of a larger statement.

True, I'm sure someone would take it out of context no matter who said it, but that's no reason to stoop to their level.
 
I just find it amusing when the palest of cracker ass crackers always claim to have some naitive american tribe as a part of their ancestry.
 
Caine said:
I just find it amusing when the palest of cracker ass crackers always claim to have some naitive american tribe as a part of their ancestry.
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Huh?

What does that have to do with anything?

However, how the hell would they know, one way or the other?
 
The family voice. Passed down through the generations.

The Mark said:
Huh?

What does that have to do with anything?

However, how the hell would they know, one way or the other?
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BDBoop said:
The family voice. Passed down through the generations.
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Now you're trying to confuse me - which, admittedly, is not hard.
 
As in, great-grandma told grandma, who told mom who told me that great-great-great-great-great Aunt Martha cheated on Uncle John with a local Cherokee and there ya have it.

The Mark said:
Now you're trying to confuse me - which, admittedly, is not hard.
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Caine said:
I just find it amusing when the palest of cracker ass crackers always claim to have some naitive american tribe as a part of their ancestry.
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My adoption paperwork gave me my ethnic ancestry. Apparently, my father was 1/4 Seminole, and his family was quite proud of their roots. As I now live in Florida, I like knowing that about myself. You can see it in my wide face and the shape of my eyes.
 
BDBoop said:
As in, great-grandma told grandma, who told mom who told me that great-great-great-great-great Aunt Martha cheated on Uncle John with a local Cherokee and there ya have it.
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Ah.

I see...
 
Goobieman said:
Interesting response.
How, exactly, is the statement incorrect?
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I made it pretty clear in my reply and feel you should be able to figure it out. Considering a race of peeps as mutts is uncool to me:(
 
Kali said:
I made it pretty clear in my reply and feel you should be able to figure it out. Considering a race of peeps as mutts is uncool to me:(
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No matter how cool you think you may be, you considering it uncool doesnt make it incorrect.
So... you'll have to do better than that.
 
It is disgusting and degrading! Do you understand now? You are not stupid and totally understand what I said. You just wanna argue.
 
Kali said:
It is disgusting and degrading! Do you understand now? You are not stupid and totally understand what I said. You just wanna argue.
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No matter how cool you think you may be, you considering it uncool or disgusting or degrading or distatsetul or insulting doesnt make it incorrect.
So... you'll have to do better than that.
 
American said:
African-American is sort of self-defining isn't it?
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I hate that term "African American".

Unless you came from Africa in your lifetime and now live in America, most "African-Americans" don't have a damned clue what being "African" is.

The term itself brings an image of someone who has more loyalty to the first hyphenated portion of their "politically correct" name than being American.
 
Caine said:
I hate that term "African American".

Unless you came from Africa in your lifetime and now live in America, most "African-Americans" don't have a damned clue what being "African" is.

The term itself brings an image of someone who has more loyalty to the first hyphenated portion of their "politically correct" name than being American.
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As a Euro American, I am ok with the phrase.
 
Caine said:
I hate that term "African American".

Unless you came from Africa in your lifetime and now live in America, most "African-Americans" don't have a damned clue what being "African" is.

The term itself brings an image of someone who has more loyalty to the first hyphenated portion of their "politically correct" name than being American.
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Have fun finding a term for african americans that isn't derogatory that has been coined by our society since they were brought over.
 
SE102 said:
Have fun finding a term for african americans that isn't derogatory that has been coined by our society since they were brought over.
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umm... well lets see.... what does the media call a white man....

oh wait... "A white man"

Hmm... I wonder how we can apply this knowledge to "AFRICAN" Americans (most of which don't know **** about, nor would like to return to, africa).

"a black man". "a black woman"...

Whats so ****ing wrong with that?
 
Caine said:
umm... well lets see.... what does the media call a white man....

oh wait... "A white man"

Hmm... I wonder how we can apply this knowledge to "AFRICAN" Americans (most of which don't know **** about, nor would like to return to, africa).

"a black man". "a black woman"...

Whats so ****ing wrong with that?
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What if they are from South Africa and are white?
 
megaprogman said:
What if they are from South Africa and are white?
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A white person.

The words "White" or "Black" are just descriptors.

I can see nothing wrong with describing someone.

Of course, I'm sure someone could…And does.
 
The Mark said:
A white person.

The words "White" or "Black" are just descriptors.

I can see nothing wrong with describing someone.

Of course, I'm sure someone could…And does.
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What about this guy?

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