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Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

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You are rude, right? Not just pretending to be?

Goobieman said:
Well, at this point, that's just willful ignorane on your part. I can't help you there, and if all you're planning to do is remain willfully ignorant, there's really no reason for me to respond to you further..


See above. Post #5 clarifies the issue to the point necessay to answer the question. You're just playing dumb.
You -are- playing, right?
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crebigsol said:
Agree 100%



However, the question is not riduculous until someone assocites the word with some negative meaning.
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However, the question is not riduculous until someone assocites the word with some negative meaning.
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Good point.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Yes, because everytime I point out that the Messiah is a liar, the Lefties jump all over me. So I'm going to say the Messiah told the truth this time.

Not that I have any idea what the word "mongrel" might mean, since I'm mongrelized Irish and German, and my kids are mongrelized Irish and German and French and Manchurian.

The problem really is that the Messiah, abandoned by his sperm donor, educated in an Indonesian madrassas, has picked up thoroughly un-American notions about the importance of antecedants as opposed to the American ideal that the measure of a man is his accomplishments.

This is perfectly understandable because the Messiah hasn't accomplished **** yet.
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Who is this "Messiah" person?
 
The Uncola said:
Ahh... but I thought they called him "The One," not "The Messiah."
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near the start of the first movie, just before he follows the white rabbit, a guy goes to him to get illegal software, and he says "you're my messiah man, my own personal Jesus Christ"

(yes, i have watched that movie too many times)
 
spud_meister said:
near the start of the first movie, just before he follows the white rabbit, a guy goes to him to get illegal software, and he says "you're my messiah man, my own personal Jesus Christ"

(yes, i have watched that movie too many times)
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I'll have to pay better attention next time (cuz' we both know I'm gonna) watch that scene again. But thanks for finally clearing up the source of who and where this "Messiah" person is.
 
The Uncola said:
I'll have to pay better attention next time (cuz' we both know I'm gonna) watch that scene again. But thanks for finally clearing up the source of who and where this "Messiah" person is.
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just happy to help :)
 
Shayah said:
Basically, most thinking people have come to the conclusion that your poll is snarky.
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I am sure that CC will be happy to explain to you the details of the 'appeal to poularity' fallacy.
Of course, given his knowledge of such, I do find it amusing that he thanked you for your post.
 
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Shayah said:
If you peruse enough Goobieman polls, the context renders itself crystal clear.
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Its amazing what some people will do in order to avoid answering a simple question.
Wouldn't it have been easier to not respond at all?
 
The Uncola said:
I've given you the specific answer at least twice now, it's up to you to find someone to explain it to you, since you don't seem capable of comprehending simple English.
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And thus, the ad hom, the final resting point of someone with nothing of value to say.
 
deltabtry said:
Well if this is going to be a label of some sort, then I would suppose we are all American mongrels or we are not. Besides why would anyone ask such a ridiculous question.
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The answer to that is simple:
For some people, who said something determies if they agree with it or not or if that statement is 'acceptable'.
This is one of those instances -- The Obama said what He said and it didnt create the slightest of ripples.
Had GWB or Limbaugh or any white conservative said it, there's be hell to pay.

No one with any degree of intellectual honesty could possibly argue otherwise.
 
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Kali said:
I find this poll very insulting and that would be a NO. I pity fools that would look at any persons as mutts.
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Interesting response.
How, exactly, is the statement incorrect?
 
BDBoop said:
You are rude, right? Not just pretending to be?
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I'm sorry -- unless you have something worthwhile to add, you need not rerspond. There's already been a warning issued here.
 
If your use of 'worthwhile' is applied (that being, only the people who agree your poll added something of worth to the board), you'd probably be the only person posting in this thread.

Goobieman said:
I'm sorry -- unless you have something worthwhile to add, you need not rerspond. There's already been a warning issued here.
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Goobieman said:
The answer to that is simple:
For some people, who said something determies if they agree with it or not or if that statement is 'acceptable'.
This is one of those instances -- The Obama said what He said and it didnt create the slightest of ripples.
Had GWB or Limbaugh or any white conservative said it, there's be hell to pay.
No one with any degree of intellectual honesty could possibly argue otherwise.
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Please quote us who said this.

More pure BS being spured by you.

Had GWB said this in exactly the same fashion as Obama did, speaking how the same can be applied to whites, I would've treated it exactly the same way.

WHO said it was needed for context for me, not because Obama saying it is better than Limbaugh, but because of the context regarding you. If a liberal said it then we damn well know that Goobieman is probably leaving comments out, misrepresenting the context its used in, or attempting to keep it hidden because he's laying a trap. If its a conservative then, well, there probably isn't a thread about it made by Goobie. Additionally WHO said it allows for a better chance to find out the full context it was stated in. Finally, at times WHO said it can matter, but this wouldn't necessarily be one of those cases.

Yes, if someone JUSt said "African Americans are a mongrel people" without ANYTHING else, which is not what happened here, I would probably react a bit more curiously with Limbaugh saying it than Obama. Limbaugh has a history of saying controversial racial things, often ambiguous in meaning, in a hope to stir up controversy and pander both to some of the more unpleasent segment of his base while simultaneously creating publicity by the media getting in a tizzy over it and then "explaining" himself. Obama does not have this history. As such, if that was ALL that was said, yeah...I'd react differently to Limbaugh.

However that's not what this situation is, no matter how many times you try to dishonestly cache it as such by trying to ignore the full context of the situation you're obviously and admittedly referencing.

For you, who has stated this and numerous other dishonest threads completely devoid of intellectual honesty in their creation and their execution, to attempt to suggest that anyone who has the audacity to disagree with you lacks it is laughable. Your point is not infallable, not even sound, and the ground on which you make such ludicrous and absurd decrees is shaking so badly it'd register on the richter scale.
 
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Goobieman said:
The answer to that is simple:
For some people, who said something determies if they agree with it or not or if that statement is 'acceptable'.
This is one of those instances -- The Obama said what He said and it didnt create the slightest of ripples.
Had GWB or Limbaugh or any white conservative said it, there's be hell to pay.

No one with any degree of intellectual honesty could possibly argue otherwise.
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And rightly so. Something like mongrel or mutt can take on completely different context depending on who said it. As a cultural mix of German, English, Irish, and some other nationalities/ethnicities, I've reffered to myself as a "mutt" numerous times. If someone said that about a people who they aren't related and they have a reputation of being hostile towards minorities, then yes, it'll take on a different meaning.
 
Context is extremely important. I've often referred to my mixed background as "Heinz 57" or "mutt." I'm german, English, Dutch, and Seminole. My kids are all of that, plus half Filipino.

Most AMERICANS are mongrels, in the context in which Obama said it. Your posts are ridiculous.
 
Goobieman said:
I am sure that CC will be happy to explain to you the details of the 'appeal to poularity' fallacy.
Of course, given his knowledge of such, I do find it amusing that he thanked you for your post.
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I just thought I would point out the humor of complaining about an "appeal to popularity" in a poll thread...
 
Redress said:
I just thought I would point out the humor of complaining about an "appeal to popularity" in a poll thread...
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If you understood the difference, you'd see that there's no humor at all.

Asking for people's opinion in a poll is nothing at all like trying to determine the soundness of a position based on how many people like it.

That is, asking of you think 2+2=4 isn't the same thing as arguing that since most people believe 2+2=5 then 2+2=5.
 
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BDBoop said:
If your use of 'worthwhile' is applied (that being, only the people who agree your poll added something of worth to the board), you'd probably be the only person posting in this thread.
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Bzzt. Fail.
You can disagree with me all you want. Just dont waste everyone's time by doing so w/o substance - such as you have, so far.
 
What we are seeing here is Goobie continuing to present a failed and refuted position because he is too stubborn to admit he is wrong. No one has made the argument around Obama's race or his political party. These are the things that you HOPED people would do based on your trap. And now, since no one did, you are just creating the straw men arguments because you have nothing of actual substance to hold onto.

Give it up, Goobie. You failed. No one fell into what you were trying to do. People picked out the dishonesty quickly, because people understand that context means everything.
 
It appears to me that Goobieman's underlying premise here is the following:

“The Media” and varied political figures (more specifically, “Liberals” and “democrats”.) are more likely to respond negatively towards a person whose statement included the phrase noted in the poll title if they are:
  1. A republican.
  2. A conservative.
  3. A white person.
  4. Etcetera.

Is this correct?
 
Zyphlin said:
Please quote us who said this.
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Sorry...no one -here- need to have made either statement for that point to be valid.

More pure BS being spured by you.
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Um... no.
If you believe that peopel do NOT often react differently to a statement based on who said it -- well, I guess you cannot be helped.

Had GWB said this in exactly the same fashion as Obama did, speaking how the same can be applied to whites, I would've treated it exactly the same way.
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-You- would have. You speak for everyone? Especially the Obama-loving=Buch-hating- rabid leftists?
Of course not. So YOU thinking exactly the same thing means, well, nothing.

WHO said it was needed for context for me, not because Obama saying it is better than Limbaugh, but because of the context regarding you.
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This is amazxingly silly. I dont have a THING to do with this other thanposting a perfectly valid question that was perfectly answerable w/o anothing other than the meaning of the wor 'mongrel' ias it is used in the question.

If a liberal said it then we damn well know that Goobieman is probably leaving comments out, misrepresenting the context its used in, or attempting to keep it hidden because he's laying a trap.
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And yet, this isnt even close to what happened. Fail.

Yes, if someone JUSt said "African Americans are a mongrel people" without ANYTHING else, which is not what happened here, I would probably react a bit more curiously with Limbaugh saying it than Obama.
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And how would this change your asnwer to your question?
If it changes it at all, then you prove my point, in its entirety.

However that's not what this situation is, no matter how many times you try to dishonestly cache it as such by trying to ignore the full context of the situation you're obviously and admittedly referencing.
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What you still fail to understand is that to answer my question, none of that matters. Not in the slightest. And its just plain dishonest of you to continue to think that it does.

For you, who has stated this and numerous other dishonest threads completely devoid of intellectual honesty in their creation and their execution, to attempt to suggest that anyone who has the audacity to disagree with you lacks it is laughable.
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This is, again, jsut silly.
See, what you fail to understand is that I havent taken a position regarding the statement itself -- I asked a question. How can you disagree with my question?

Your point is not infallable, not even sound...
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Tell me:
What -is- my point?
Do you even have a clue, or are you just spouting so that you can hear yourself type?
 
CompSciGuy said:
And rightly so. Something like mongrel or mutt can take on completely different context depending on who said it.
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Really? So...
What's your asnwer to my question given that The Obama made the statment?
What's your asnwer to my question if GWB had made the statment?
 
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