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Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

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Harry Guerrilla said:
That's true enough but it doesn't warrant this retarded and manipulating poll.
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There's no manipulation here -- -I- simply asked a question.

And, you note that very few of the posts here actually address that question.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
(Affect(ing) a black accent to recount San Francisco mayor Willie Brown asking) "Who is this "Emily List? She's supportin' all these people. She's supportin' Sen. Dianne Feinstein. She's supported Sen. Barbara Boxer....She supported everybody. Why won't she support me?" -- Hillary Clinton.


"You f*cking Jew b@stard." -- Hillary Clinton

"that Barack Obama is "the first mainstream African-American [presidential candidate] who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man." -Joe Biden



I don't know if I agree with you on that.
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The first and the third quotes aren't even in the same ball park as what we are talking about here, rev. The evidence has to be comparable to the comments being discussed, not something 90 degrees away from the discussion.

The second one isn't even about black people, so it's not even in the same sport. i.e. my comments had nothing to do with how comments about Jews would be taken.
 
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Tucker Case said:
I'd say that no matter who says it, they are going to get some slack over it.

If I were going to trank the types of people who'd get the most slack for it from greatest to least it would go as follows:
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Do you mean slack or flak?
 
Tucker Case said:
The first and the third quotes aren't even in the same ball park as what we are talking about here, rev. Teh evidence has to be comparable.

The second one isn't even about black people, so it's not even in the same sport. i.e. my comments had nothing to do with how comments about Jews would be taken.
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I agree to a point, that said, Trent lott was treated far different than Joe biden or that other guy...
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
You did it out of context.
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I asked a question out of context?
How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
And how would that have changed your response?
 
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Goobieman said:
I asked a question out of context?
How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
And how would that have changed your response?
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Don't play dumb. (At least I hope you're playing.)

I didn't vote and rarely do, in these type of threads.
You didn't disclose all the information.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Don't play dumb. (At least I hope you're playing.)

I didn't vote and rarely do, in these type of threads.
You didn't disclose all the information.
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Hey - you're the one complain about the lack of context...

Answer the question:
How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
And how would that have changed your response?
 
Hmmmmm......


Mongrel refers to mixed ancestry:

In botany, a mongrel may refer to the offspring of varieties of a species which was in contrast to a hybrid
Among pets, one whose parentage is of unknown or mixed breeds as opposed to purebred
Among humans, mongrel and mongrelize are derogatory terms for the mixing of "races", known as miscegenation

Mongrel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The Giant Noodle said:
Hmmmmm......
Mongrel refers to mixed ancestry:
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Exactly. And so, I cannot possibly see how any of the "context" issues have any relevance to someones' asnwer to the question.

The ONLY way they make any difference is if your answer to the question depends on who asks (or, in this case, who makes the statement).
 
If a conservative had said this....
 
Goobieman said:
I heard this today and was curious as to what everyone thinks.
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Of course most black Americans are a mongrel people,so are most other Americans. Most Americans are of mixed ethnicity and race. Why is it a bad to bring to bring this fact up? Are we dogs and somehow being mixed is a bad thing? We are not racists,so why should someone give a rats ass if someone says a group of people are a mongrel people?

Mongrel | Define Mongrel at Dictionary.com
2.any animal or plant resulting from the crossing of different breeds or varieties.
 
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I understand where the President is coming from. He's talking to our mixed heritage. When you trace the roots of many African American families, in many cases you come away with a mixture of different races. The same can easily be said of many White families. I mean, I can't tell you how often I've heard a White person proudly proclaim being of a mix ethnicity - Italian, Greek, German, French or some other combination thereof. Still, I think he's wrong in his assessment that we (African Americans) know more about it than White people do of their own heritage. I think it's actually the opposite. I mean, I don't hear half as many Black people talking proudly of their mixed heritage as I do White people talk openly about it.
 
Objective Voice said:
Still, I think he's wrong in his assessment that we (African Americans) know more about it than White people do of their own heritage. I think it's actually the opposite. I mean, I don't hear half as many Black people talking proudly of their mixed heritage as I do White people talk openly about it.
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Agreed.....
 
jamesrage said:
Of course most black Americans are a mongrel people,so are most other Americans. Most Americans are of mixed ethnicity and race. Why is it a bad to bring to bring this fact up? Are we dogs and somehow being mixed is a bad thing? We are not racists,so why should someone give a rats ass if someone says a group of people are a mongrel people?
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Because in the minds of most people, Mongrel comes with a negative connotation associated with it, i.e., dirty, stupid, disgusting, un-natural, unwanted, unacceptable, not pure.
 
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I know what Obama was going for when he said it but I still think he made a poor choice of words given the history of that particular word; and I agree that if a white politician said that, he would be getting all kinds of heat for it right now.
 
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