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I go by the man that sees them every day.
And you just do that.
I, actually, said in the first post "I would have to say yes since the Congressional Budget Office" which is federal.
Which had nothing at all to do with my later post. :roll:
How cynical you are.
You should know pretty darn well by now. :2razz:
I'm glad to know that you believe that the government can tax you for up to 100% and it still not be slavery.
Why do you continue to put words in peoples mouths?
Please point out where I said or even implied such stupidity? So far you have not even put forth a single statement by me backing any of your accusations and out right lies about my own statements.
Again taxation in and of itself is not and never has been slavery. Can it be abused to a point that it could become slavery? Certainly, but that is not what you asked or implied.
Failure to pay taxes does result in the seizure of property and mandatory prison time. How is that not controlling?
It is controlling. If that is your criteria for what is slavery, then being arrested for murder is slavery.
Lets face it we are if nothing else a nation of laws. Taxes are part of those laws and expected as your duty as a member of this society. You can choose not to do it if you wish and move some place like Somalia. I here they have no taxes there, a real libertarian utopia.
I give you this table compliments of Historic Tax Rates in the US.
# 1954-1963: 91%
# 1952-1953: 92%
# 1951: 91%
# 1950: 84.36%
# 1948-1949: 82.13%
# 1946-1947: 86.45%
# 1944-1945: 94%
# 1942-1943: 88%
# 1941: 81%
# 1940: 81.1%
# 1936-1939: 79%
# 1932-1935: 63%
I ask again where was the civil unrest and job loss for when the tax level was at 91% for top earners? You made the statement that there would be job loss and civil unrest when the level reached that high. I asked for you to back up your statement.
Most of those were during time of war or great wealth in the country. If you look at times of economic hardship they drop greatly.
After Vietnam you see a steady drop and very little climb.
Are you denying that the government cannot take away your life, liberty, or finance when you fail to pay income taxes? The current tax laws state that the government can seize your property and make you serve mandatory prison terms for failing to pay. This goes for all types of taxes.
They can do the same if I get caught with certain drugs or drive while drunk. It is irrelevant as those are not slavery either.
I'm glad to know that you do trust yourself.
Not like I can trust anyone else with my own thoughts.:lol: