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clinton or palin ??

would you vote for palin or clinton ??

  • clinton

    Votes: 38 67.9%
  • palin

    Votes: 18 32.1%

  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .
Yes, and I'm Celine Dion. No really, I am.

You believe me, don't you?

you would have to prove I am wrong in my opinion for you to establish I am ignorant. I suggest you cannot and I suggest I am far better educated on voting trends and what motivates voters than you. But post up, ball's in your court
 
Oh, how CUTE! You're playing the seniority card. I gotta do a cut -n- paste. This is just too precious!

I didn't realize I had a duty to respond to you. You haven't been around long enough to have that status.
 
Everyone will hate me for this.

But I'd hve to vote for Palin . . at least there'd be some simblance of fiscal conservation. She wouldn't have enough sway and umph to really swing *everything* ni her favor so a lot of things wouldn't change.

Really - she's be more of a puppet. . . and I can live with that.

However, Clinton's a vicious bitch and will get what she wants. That's truly frightening. She'd have more persuasive power in one finger than Palin could dare to dream to have in her entire being.

And I'm staunchly against family-lines running in Presidency. That goes against everything the Presidency *is* suppose to be - which is polar opposite of royalty.

I wish i said that ^
 
Both racist and ignorant. I didn't really need clarification, I was just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

calling someone racist is usually the actions of a lib who isn't able to deal with reality. You libs have used that term so long it no longer has any meaning to me or most rational people. I voted against Obama-that made me a racist to millions of Obamatards
 
you would have to prove I am wrong in my opinion for you to establish I am ignorant. I suggest you cannot and I suggest I am far better educated on voting trends and what motivates voters than you. But post up, ball's in your court

like i said I already did not my problem you dont understand reality ;)
 
like i said I already did not my problem you dont understand reality ;)

oh do edify me wise one-what is the reality I don't undertand:mrgreen:
 
calling someone racist is usually the actions of a lib who isn't able to deal with reality. You libs have used that term so long it no longer has any meaning to me or most rational people. I voted against Obama-that made me a racist to millions of Obamatards

this wasnt to me but im going to answer anyway just to be clear of "my" stance
I never called YOU racist, nor am I a lib nor do I think voting against obama made you racist
 
oh do edify me wise one-what is the reality I don't undertand:mrgreen:

already proved it to you
95% of black people did NOT vote for Obama simply because he was black and they because they are racist LOL and thats a fact
 
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this wasnt to me but im going to answer anyway just to be clear of "my" stance
I never called YOU racist, nor am I a lib nor do I think voting against obama made you racist

you might want to check who I was QUOTING WHEN I MADE THE STATEMENT YOU JUST QUOTED OF MINE
 
Moderator's Warning:
Relax a bit folks. Step it down just a little bit. Thank you.
 
you might want to check who I was QUOTING WHEN I MADE THE STATEMENT YOU JUST QUOTED OF MINE

why, i said i know it wasnt to me but im going to respond anyway so people are clear where I stand, which part dont you get?
 
It would be interesting to see proof that black people voted for Obama primarily based on his skin color in absence of all other factors.

Until we see that though, the best we can say is that any supposed reason why is speculation.
 
given more people can name the last two contenders on the latest American Idol contest than the Chief Justice of the United States or the Two senators from their home state the fact remains most americans don't really study the issues and for black americans, obama's color was enough. hardly racist or ignorant

Considering that black people tend to vote democrat in overwhelming majorities already, Obama being black was really mostly a null factor for the black vote.
 
already proved it to you
95% of black people did NOT vote for Obama simply because he was black and they because they are racist LOL and thats a fact

how are you gonna prove that? because they voted for dems before? I voted for Clark in 80 because I didn't like Reagan and Carter was a complete idiot. I voted For Reagan in 84 because he did a good job and Mondale was a clown. I voted for Bush I in 1988 because he said NO new taxes. I voted libertarian in 92 because bush broke his promise and clinton promised to sign gun bans and raise taxes. I voted for Dole in 96 because I respected his record as a soldier and his service in the senate. I voted for Bush II in 2000 because Gore said he would extend the clinton gun ban and was part of the clinton tax hike. I voted for Bush again because Kerry was anti gun and a clown. I voted AGAINST Obama because he was the most anti gun candidate in years and Biden is one of the biggest fools to occupy a senate seat. I didn't like McCain and wanted Romney-sadly the brain dead bible thumpers did him in

the fact that I voted GOP most of the time doesn't mean I had the same reason in 2008 as I did in 2004

so prove your claim about why blacks voted for Obama.
 
Considering that black people tend to vote democrat in overwhelming majorities already, Obama being black was really mostly a null factor for the black vote.

The only way we know for certain whether Turtle's charge is true is if the Republicans run someone like Rice or Steele and there is a huge upswing in the black vote for that party.
 
I have a question if 95% of black people voted for obama simply because he was black and because they are racist what were they voting for every other time when they voted for the white dem candidate? hmmmmmmm

next question is, if flava flav was running would he have got 96% of the vote also? LMAO

im guessing no
 
Considering that black people tend to vote democrat in overwhelming majorities already, Obama being black was really mostly a null factor for the black vote.

again-we don't know that but I saw several black "conservatives" claim they had to vote for obama because of his color including Armstrong Williams.
 
I'd rather eat razorblades with A1 steak sauce then to vote for either one of them...
 
Considering that black people tend to vote democrat in overwhelming majorities already, Obama being black was really mostly a null factor for the black vote.

exactly it isnt rocket science to figure this out, the Dem running no matter who it was was bound to get 85% of the vote
 
again-we don't know that but I saw several black "conservatives" claim they had to vote for obama because of his color including Armstrong Williams.

And we know that some people voted against Obama because he was black. That is only an inditement of those people who actually did vote based on his skin color, and not an inditment on the black community itself.
 
exactly it isnt rocket science to figure this out, the Dem running no matter who it was was bound to get 85% of the vote

Yet people with overinflated claims of good breeding and high intelligence have trouble with it. Go figure. :shrug:
 
Considering that black people tend to vote democrat in overwhelming majorities already, Obama being black was really mostly a null factor for the black vote.

you do know that many many blacks who had never voted before voted for Obama. now obama is a dem-a liberal one but so was poodle boy Mr Theresa Heinz. so why did they show up to vote for Obama when they didn't bother to get Al Bore and Mr Heinz elected?
 
how are you gonna prove that? because they voted for dems before? I voted for Clark in 80 because I didn't like Reagan and Carter was a complete idiot. I voted For Reagan in 84 because he did a good job and Mondale was a clown. I voted for Bush I in 1988 because he said NO new taxes. I voted libertarian in 92 because bush broke his promise and clinton promised to sign gun bans and raise taxes. I voted for Dole in 96 because I respected his record as a soldier and his service in the senate. I voted for Bush II in 2000 because Gore said he would extend the clinton gun ban and was part of the clinton tax hike. I voted for Bush again because Kerry was anti gun and a clown. I voted AGAINST Obama because he was the most anti gun candidate in years and Biden is one of the biggest fools to occupy a senate seat. I didn't like McCain and wanted Romney-sadly the brain dead bible thumpers did him in

the fact that I voted GOP most of the time doesn't mean I had the same reason in 2008 as I did in 2004

so prove your claim about why blacks voted for Obama.

wow thats a lot of words that say nothing
I didnt claim I know why they voted for obama, it varies for everyone, I simply claimed your reason was false and I already proved that, history proves that, common sense proves it and reality proves it

accept it or dont, tomorrow those will still be the facts LMAO
 
That is just plain nonsense. Obama has far more ethnocentric supporters (racists) than Palin because 96% of all blacks supported the Magic Masai while Palin doesn't have anywhere near that many whites and many of them aren't voting supporting her due to her color because her counterpart was white as well

Am I supposed to be surprised that you would be disputing Republicans as being a party based on ethnocentricity?
 
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