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#1 Most BadAss President is...

The #1 Most Bad Ass President is...


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Yes, also an unrelenting racist, sadist, bigot, xenophobe and criminal. :p
Are not those "qualities" signs of a "badass"?

I doubt anyone was suggesting that the president in question had to be a good “badass”…if that’s not an contradiction in terms anyway…
 
It can only be said this is bad question. It lacks criteria for judgment and really lacks choices who were no only as good but better.

Starting with the man who set the standard for all presidents, George Washington.

We have had plenty of brave and or brilliant men in the office, and most were not progressives.

Many went to war and saw action that far exceeds TRs and were heroes as well, like JFK, everyone of them was a hero in my book.

Ronald Reagan was hero who never went to war as a combatant but there was military involvements in Grenada, Central America, Lebanon, Libya
Cold War subsides (Glasnost with U.S.S.R.) That took guts and brains.

Hell Eisenhower, Dwight David "Ike" was a great President and a hell of a war hero for the whole free world.

Many of these questions have such a narrow criteria they are push poll questions, and therefore the results are meaningless.
 
Are not those "qualities" signs of a "badass"?

I doubt anyone was suggesting that the president in question had to be a good “badass”…if that’s not an contradiction in terms anyway…

Oh, no, I'm not disputing his "bad-ass"ness, or however you would style it. I was just amusing myself by knocking him off his pedestal. Whatever he was (a bad-arse), he certainly wasn't a good guy.
 
U.S. Grant. Teddy not a close second. Ulysses could not only fight all the live-long-day, but he would have then drunk and smoked four eyes under the table.
 
Andrew Jackson. Laughed at Congress when they censured him. Figuratively, told Chief Justice John Marshal to "**** off". When an assassin's gun jammed, instead of running for cover, he beat the assassin with his cane. Killed the Bank of the US. Single-handedly put a stop to the Civil War breaking out in 1832. Fought in 13 duels, and was shot so many times, he rattled like a bag of marbles when he walked. And... his final words upon leaving the Presidency were... "I only have two regrets... that I have not shot Henry Clay nor hanged John C. Calhoun."

Now THAT was bad-ass.
 
Andrew Jackson. Laughed at Congress when they censured him. Figuratively, told Chief Justice John Marshal to "**** off". When an assassin's gun jammed, instead of running for cover, he beat the assassin with his cane. Killed the Bank of the US. Single-handedly put a stop to the Civil War breaking out in 1832. Fought in 13 duels, and was shot so many times, he rattled like a bag of marbles when he walked. And... his final words upon leaving the Presidency were... "I only have two regrets... that I have not shot Henry Clay nor hanged John C. Calhoun."

Now THAT was bad-ass.

Totally agree, may not have liked all the mans policies but his balled clanked, when he walked.
 
Andrew Jackson. Laughed at Congress when they censured him. Figuratively, told Chief Justice John Marshal to "**** off". When an assassin's gun jammed, instead of running for cover, he beat the assassin with his cane. Killed the Bank of the US. Single-handedly put a stop to the Civil War breaking out in 1832. Fought in 13 duels, and was shot so many times, he rattled like a bag of marbles when he walked. And... his final words upon leaving the Presidency were... "I only have two regrets... that I have not shot Henry Clay nor hanged John C. Calhoun."

Now THAT was bad-ass.

Yea. Ethnic cleansing dictator is badass.
 
Yea. Ethnic cleansing dictator is badass.

There is no value judgements in this assessment. By today's standards, AJ would have been racist, dictatorial, and probably imprisoned. But based on the OP, yes, ethnic cleansing would indeed be bad-ass.
 
Yes, also an unrelenting racist, sadist, bigot, xenophobe and criminal. :p
All qualities of many of the great European leaders of years past, too. Ironic, ain't it?
 
Well, we all are in agreement that it is not Barack Obama, right ? So scratch that one off the list.
 
If “effective in achieving his goals” is the measure of ‘badass’ then I believe Obama is pretty damn badass, too!
 
If “effective in achieving his goals” is the measure of ‘badass’ then I believe Obama is pretty damn badass, too!

No. President Obama isn't even on the list. He doesn't have to deal with duels. Not many men are willing to duel some one.
 
I remember my grandpa always used to say, "Truman saved my life" because he dropped the bomb.

Truman was a spunky SOB. I would highly recommend "Truman" by David McCullough. Truman served as an artillery captain in WWI, seeing intense action at Meusse-Argonne. He was a very courageous and competent officer there. Truman knew the military exceedingly well, and was a far more competent President than that jackass FDR.
 
Well, we all are in agreement that it is not Barack Obama, right ? So scratch that one off the list.
He wasn't on the list, except for the generalized "everone except TR" option.
 
Truman was a spunky SOB. I would highly recommend "Truman" by David McCullough. Truman served as an artillery captain in WWI, seeing intense action at Meusse-Argonne. He was a very courageous and competent officer there. Truman knew the military exceedingly well, and was a far more competent President than that jackass FDR.

I will check out the book. I did like how Roosevelt could simplify things so everyone could understand just what had to be done. For that I think he was a good leader.

Consider this memo given to Roosevelt:

"Such preparation shall be made as will completely obscure all Federal Buildings, occupied by the Federal Government, during an air raid for any period of time from visibility by reason or internal or external illumination. Such obscuration may be obtained by means of blackout construction or by termination of illumination. This will, of course, require that in building areas in which work must continue during the blackout, construction must be provided so that internal illumination will continue. Other areas may be obscured by termination of illumination."

And his response:

"In case of an air raid, turn out the lights. If you have to keep working, put something over the windows."
 
I will check out the book. I did like how Roosevelt could simplify things so everyone could understand just what had to be done. For that I think he was a good leader.

Consider this memo given to Roosevelt:

"Such preparation shall be made as will completely obscure all Federal Buildings, occupied by the Federal Government, during an air raid for any period of time from visibility by reason or internal or external illumination. Such obscuration may be obtained by means of blackout construction or by termination of illumination. This will, of course, require that in building areas in which work must continue during the blackout, construction must be provided so that internal illumination will continue. Other areas may be obscured by termination of illumination."

And his response:

"In case of an air raid, turn out the lights. If you have to keep working, put something over the windows."

I took a shot at FDR, and probably this was not the thread for it, as he is not high on any such list as is being discussed here. When it comes to testosterone, the little man from Independence had plenty. That book won the Pulitzer, and deserved it. It is pretty long too.

And many of us would not be here if not for Harry :)
 
I remember my grandpa always used to say, "Truman saved my life" because he dropped the bomb.
Yup, my paternal grandfather was in the Navy in the Pacific Theater for the war. He expressed much the same sentiment. It would have been ugly for all involved.
 
Yes, also an unrelenting racist, sadist, bigot, xenophobe and criminal. :p
Sounds like most English kings - add pedophile and you pretty much have then all.
 
Sounds like most English kings - add pedophile and you pretty much have then all.

Hell, that's just DeGaulle. And Mitterand. And probably Chirac, though he appeared to be the least racist of the bunch.
 
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Hell, that's just DeGaulle. And Mitterand. And probably Chirac, though he appeared to be the least racist of the bunch.
Ah yes -- our French betters. They CLEARLY need to carry the torch for liberty and freedom across the world.
 
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