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Who is the most influental conservative voice in America?

Who is the most influential conservatve voice in America?

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In Alabama it's the tag team of Beck and O'Reilly. At least where I live. I am sure their is a whole ton of Limbaugh listeners I just don't know them.
 
I went with Rush from the choices. He's smart, but he's also funny and you have to be to keep people listening to the radio. Hell, I'm always looking for the best music when I listen to the radio which is only when I'm in the car.
 
"Probably Krauthammer or Drudge. "

Somewhere around 1976-1977 Irving Kristol was taking a sabattical from NYU and went to AEI. During lunch, he and a man by the name of Jude Wanniski talked economics. Jude was an early promoter of "supply-side" economics, and Kristol was becoming a strong voice in the Wall Street Journal. Wanniski taught Kristol about this prospective, and Kristol promoted it in the journal. The lunchroom at AEI and lunch time at The Public Interest probably have had more intellectual influence than people realize. Charles and others socialize with one another and ideas are exchanged.
 
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I would have said Rush Limbaugh...but I have read that Matt Drudge and the Drudge Report is the most frequently hit internet site of both major party staffers, major media outlets, and the UK. So...Hmmmm...
 
Zyphlin said:
Ronald Reagan.

He's dead and he's still arguably the most influential. The majority of the radio hosts people reference continually allude back to Reagan, claim Reagan is the model for their principles and views, and use Reagan's words and views to validate their ideas. Every political candidate on the right is continually trying to be a "Reagan conservative" and referencing the man. Most conservatives long for the days of Reagan while youth are taught of him as the pinnacle of Conservatism often.

Even dead, his voice...through the words he's left over and the legacy that continues on...is by far the most influential amongst conservatives.
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I totally agree, to bad God broke the mold and it will be another 100 years before we see the likes of president Reagan, I have yet to see anyone come close to this man.
 
I think Sarah Palin. Rush Limbaugh comes a close second, then Glenn Beck. I think Rush Limbaugh is among one of the more sensible ultra-conservatives who doesn't speak madness like Glenn Beck. Rush is very persuasive and Glenn fires up the savvy ultra-conservative crowd who support him madly. However, Sarah Palin beats them all because she has a huge support base and being ultra-conservative as well as being a mellow conservative at times. Her tea party movement is spreading like a plague. Her antics attracted a lot of publicity but she turned the publicity into a good spotlight. Now, she has a bigger support base than McCain or Obama does. I'm sorry for the Democrats, but it's the truth. Big Sister is coming
 
I haven't read the thread yet, but my guess is everybody is wondering why Sarah Palin is off the list.
 
Zyphlin said:
Incorrect. You've been proven incorrect time and time again with this. Either your memory is faulty or you have no problem lying over and over again. Pot is addictive.
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As is food. As is fighting. Being right. Having the last word. Anything in life can be addictive. And just like people can drink and not be alcoholics, people can smoke pot and not be addicts.

I'd really like to see a comparison study: How many lives pot has literally destroyed and taken, vs alcohol.

Pot should be legalized, and alcohol should be illegal.
 
deltabtry said:
I totally agree, to bad God broke the mold and it will be another 100 years before we see the likes of president Reagan, I have yet to see anyone come close to this man.
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He enacted amnesty, raised taxes, ran up the debt, cut and ran on terror... and he's your saint?
 
Zyphlin said:
Incorrect. You've been proven incorrect time and time again with this. Either your memory is faulty or you have no problem lying over and over again. Pot is addictive.



Its public knowledge he began taking it for a legitimate medical problem.



Am I alright with people dying? In general no. Am I alright with people speeding? In general yes. Am I alright with someone that routinely goes 8 miles over the speed limit calling someone that routinely goes 15 miles over the speed limit a "Speeding Jackass"? Yes, yes I would.



Well thank you. Let me give you a fact that is as worthless as the one you just stated. I took a **** today. Wow, great, now we've both stated worthless facts. And after both of them guess what....Pot is stil a drug.



And that's fine. You could say the President is actually called the Kwijibo in Chief, you could say the Sky is not actually blue but Mac & Cheese yellow, and that you call cars "Vroom Vroom machines.

That wouldn't magically change the fact that the President is called the President, the color of they sky is called blue, that cars are called cars, and that pot is a drug.
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Pot is not addictive. I have my own personal proof of that. You imply that I am a liar when I say that pot is not addictive.

You claim that you have never smoked pot. How would you then know that it is addictive?

Pot is not addictive. When a person quits smoking pot there are no withdrawal symptoms. Now, morphine, that's addictive.
 
I like Joe Scarsborough of "Moring Joe".

This morning, Joe, the former Republican congressman, was complaining that the left (liberals and Obama supporters) was not criticizing the war, even though that "USA Today" reported that the death toll in Afghanistan for June has reach the Iraq war levels.

I agree with him on this issue and I do on many other issues. And, Mika is a hottie.

It's refreshing not to hear partisan hackery but common sense from a conservative.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Pot is not addictive. I have my own personal proof of that. You imply that I am a liar when I say that pot is not addictive.
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Yes, it is. Its been shown scientifically through actual studies to have addictive qualities, your anecdotal proof from yourself doesn't trump this. This was all shown to you already in another thread, I'm not rehashing it just because you want to continue to spout BS.

You claim that you have never smoked pot. How would you then know that it is addictive?
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Because I can read.

Pot is not addictive. When a person quits smoking pot there are no withdrawal symptoms. Now, morphine, that's addictive.
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First, I believe there are withdrawl symptoms associated with pot found in some users, however unlike some drugs those sy mptoms are not fatal.

But really, there's no reason to try and reason with a person that doesn't want to deal with reality. Continue to think the sky is green, the President is the Kwijibo in Chief, that Cars are called Vroom Vroom Machines, and that Pot isn't a drug.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yes, it is. Its been shown scientifically through actual studies to have addictive qualities, your anecdotal proof from yourself doesn't trump this. This was all shown to you already in another thread, I'm not rehashing it just because you want to continue to spout BS.
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Links to these studies?
IMO if alcohol is legal, no reason pot shouldn't be. Especially since alcohol is worse than pot.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yes, it is. Its been shown scientifically through actual studies to have addictive qualities, your anecdotal proof from yourself doesn't trump this. This was all shown to you already in another thread, I'm not rehashing it just because you want to continue to spout BS.



Because I can read.



First, I believe there are withdrawl symptoms associated with pot found in some users, however unlike some drugs those sy mptoms are not fatal.

But really, there's no reason to try and reason with a person that doesn't want to deal with reality. Continue to think the sky is green, the President is the Kwijibo in Chief, that Cars are called Vroom Vroom Machines, and that Pot isn't a drug.
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I would like to read those "scientific" studies you talk about. I smoked pot all my life and quit and had no withdrawal symptoms. I do not even have a craving for it. So, I know they lie. Anti-pot people are a cottage industry.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
I would like to read those "scientific" studies you talk about. I smoked pot all my life and quit and had no withdrawal symptoms. I do not even have a craving for it. So, I know they lie. Anti-pot people are a cottage industry.
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Also I love how people talk about it being "addictive" as to why it shouldn't be legal. When alcohol, and nicotine, are perfectly legal. :roll:
 
Your Star said:
Also I love how people talk about it being "addictive" as to why it shouldn't be legal. When alcohol, and nicotine, are perfectly legal. :roll:
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I think nicotine is more addictive than heroin.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
I think nicotine is more addictive than heroin.
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Your Star said:
Links to these studies?
IMO if alcohol is legal, no reason pot shouldn't be. Especially since alcohol is worse than pot.
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Sorry, not doing all the research again. Especially for LA who will apparently either just lie about it or forget it a month later. Check out my posts, CaptainCourtesy's posts, and others in these following htreads:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/67825-miracle-marijuana.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/63627-should-marijuana-legalized.html

Seriously, we went through over 600 posts on this damn issue, I'm not wasting the vasts amount of time again, especially in part to help out someone that either will refuse to listen because of his own worthless anecdotal evidence or out of a desire to just lie.

Marijuana has addictive qualities.
Marijuana has withdrawl symptoms.
Marijuana can be dangerous.
Marijuana is a drug.

Never have i stated:

It has the most addictive of addiction qualities
It has the most severe withdrawl qualities
It is the most dangerous
It is the strongest drug

Oh, and by the way, don't bother wasting your breath attempting to convince me it should be legalized. Its not worth your time, because I already agree with the notion that it should be legalized and am in favor of legislation to do such. I just dislike people who outright lie or mislead, either through purposeful statements or through ignorance of facts, by stating things that are entirely untrue. This is the same guy who in those threads who intimated it is perfectly safe and absolutely okay to drive while stoned. Its people like him and his gross exaggeration, outright misinformation, and complete denial of reality leading to an inability to actually discuss it rationally and realistically that is going to harm the movement and continue to keep it illegal.
 
Can we get back to the topic? What does the most influential conservative voice in America has to do with addictions with drugs?
 
Proud South Korean said:
Can we get back to the topic? What does the most influential conservative voice in America has to do with addictions with drugs?
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Well - because people started to really think that Limbaugh was most influencial.
And eventhough people insist we forgive Byrd for being in the KKK - people just can't get over the fact that Limbaugh did some pain pills.

Some people think that being a fat tard on the RADIO somehow makes you influencial - when most people don't listen to him, unless they're going to the grocery store and there's no good music on.
 
Zyphlin said:
Seriously, we went through over 600 posts on this damn issue, I'm not wasting the vasts amount of time again, especially in part to help out someone that either will refuse to listen because of his own worthless anecdotal evidence or out of a desire to just lie.

Marijuana has addictive qualities.
Marijuana has withdrawl symptoms.
Marijuana can be dangerous.
Marijuana is a drug.

Never have i stated:

It has the most addictive of addiction qualities
It has the most severe withdrawl qualities
It is the most dangerous
It is the strongest drug

Oh, and by the way, don't bother wasting your breath attempting to convince me it should be legalized. Its not worth your time, because I already agree with the notion that it should be legalized and am in favor of legislation to do such. I just dislike people who outright lie or mislead, either through purposeful statements or through ignorance of facts, by stating things that are entirely untrue. This is the same guy who in those threads who intimated it is perfectly safe and absolutely okay to drive while stoned. Its people like him and his gross exaggeration, outright misinformation, and complete denial of reality leading to an inability to actually discuss it rationally and realistically that is going to harm the movement and continue to keep it illegal.
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Okay, so it seems like we basically agree on the issue. I think it should be legalized, and I think it is one of the least harmful drugs you can take, but people saying it can't have a negative influence are just ignorant. Granted those negative influence's are pretty weak in comparison to even alcohol but they are there. Just like with anything you can put in your body, it can have negative side effects, just like medicine you get from your doctor. And anyone who drives under the influence of weed are scum, just like anyone who does it with alcohol.
 
Zyphlin said:
Sorry, not doing all the research again. Especially for LA who will apparently either just lie about it or forget it a month later. Check out my posts, CaptainCourtesy's posts, and others in these following htreads:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/67825-miracle-marijuana.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/63627-should-marijuana-legalized.html

Seriously, we went through over 600 posts on this damn issue, I'm not wasting the vasts amount of time again, especially in part to help out someone that either will refuse to listen because of his own worthless anecdotal evidence or out of a desire to just lie.

Marijuana has addictive qualities.
Marijuana has withdrawl symptoms.
Marijuana can be dangerous.
Marijuana is a drug.

Never have i stated:

It has the most addictive of addiction qualities
It has the most severe withdrawl qualities
It is the most dangerous
It is the strongest drug

Oh, and by the way, don't bother wasting your breath attempting to convince me it should be legalized. Its not worth your time, because I already agree with the notion that it should be legalized and am in favor of legislation to do such. I just dislike people who outright lie or mislead, either through purposeful statements or through ignorance of facts, by stating things that are entirely untrue. This is the same guy who in those threads who intimated it is perfectly safe and absolutely okay to drive while stoned. Its people like him and his gross exaggeration, outright misinformation, and complete denial of reality leading to an inability to actually discuss it rationally and realistically that is going to harm the movement and continue to keep it illegal.
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Well, I guess you believe everything you read and do not believe experienced people like me who you accuse of lying.
 
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