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Hallmark graduation card - racist?

Is the Hallmark graduation card racist?

  • Yes - clearly it is

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • No - clearly it is not

    Votes: 47 97.9%
  • Not sure - it's not clear at all

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other - (write comment)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    48
LAY OFF MY HOOPS AND YOYO!!

"We're gonna run the world, run the universe, and run everything after that . . . *can't hear it all* black holes!" is what I heard (or something like it). All completely universe-related.

Great publicity - I bet you a lot of people haven't even heard of my Hoops and Yoyo.
 
LAY OFF MY HOOPS AND YOYO!!

"We're gonna run the world, run the universe, and run everything after that . . . *can't hear it all* black holes!" is what I heard (or something like it). All completely universe-related.

Great publicity - I bet you a lot of people haven't even heard of my Hoops and Yoyo.

I had never before this whole thing. It is like a cartoon or something?
 
I watched the first video in the OP and I was trying to think of how it was racist. I honestly couldn't come up with a reason. Then I watched the second one and was like... lolwut?

Seriously, I heard black hole and thought, "Oh, they mean that you should watch out for obstacles in life." I actually drew a positive conclusion about it.

This isn't even about being PC anymore. It's just petty political posturing at this point.
 
I had never before this whole thing. It is like a cartoon or something?

Hoops and Yoyo are animated characters for hallmark greeting cards - but they became extremely popular and they started making toys and other things with them on it.
Hoops and Yoyo

They're hilarious and precious - I send their cards to people (e and otherwise) all the time. They're pure comedy - and if someone hears this one in a store and gets offended it's likely they've never been bitten by the H and Y bug - it's impossible to find them offensive or "racist"
 
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More immature, pinheadedness from some Black community. Grow up, people!
 
Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but I don't think so.
Being called a racist is one of the most disgusting things a person can be called. Since Obama became president the word is being thrown around all time, even by former presidents when discussing conservatives and the tea parties. I know it's just a political ploy by Dems and the Media to discredit the tea parties but it still hurts. I am not a racist. I don't care what color our president is, but just because he's black doesn't mean I should shut up and not speak out against the destruction of our country and constitution.
If we were truly a racist country we would not have a black president. I will give Obama that much. He's not the one bringing race into it, though he's not speaking out against those who are.

I think there's been a few incidents where someone's made a comment about there being certain racist elements in the Tea Party, or where some loser with no real standing or influence has said something about the TP maybe being racist, and the right seizes it and starts playing the poor pitiful victim, trying to claim that all the Democrats are calling them racist, and that racism is the only charge against them... the TP has played the "racist card" to an insulting level.
 
Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism. Never said it was.

Sure it is.

Only a racist could possibly imagine that, in a greeting card devoted to a space-fiction theme, that the phrase "black hole" refers to prostitutes of African descent.

Only a racist could see the "Willy Horton Ad" and assume the GOP was "racist" for airing it. After all, not one single word indicates, on that ad, Willy Horton's race. All it shows is a bunch of men in convict uniforms, of various races, going out, then back in, a revolving door.

But the NAACP's only purpose for existence today is the perpetuation of racism and the division of society along artificial racial lines. After all, blacks occupy positions in every high-market niche in American society today, from industry to media to the arts to government to the courts. The NAACP fulfilled it's purpose and should be allowed to die.
 
Sure it is.

Only a racist could possibly imagine that, in a greeting card devoted to a space-fiction theme, that the phrase "black hole" refers to prostitutes of African descent.

Only a racist could see the "Willy Horton Ad" and assume the GOP was "racist" for airing it. After all, not one single word indicates, on that ad, Willy Horton's race. All it shows is a bunch of men in convict uniforms, of various races, going out, then back in, a revolving door.

But the NAACP's only purpose for existence today is the perpetuation of racism and the division of society along artificial racial lines. After all, blacks occupy positions in every high-market niche in American society today, from industry to media to the arts to government to the courts. The NAACP fulfilled it's purpose and should be allowed to die.

About the Willy Horton ad, I'd like to quote one of the Right's greatest strategists...

"Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry Dent and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."
 
WGAF, I think some one has entirely to much free time on their hands or better yet a gold shoveler... you all do understand why I used shovel right..how pathetic.
 
Sure it is.

Only a racist could possibly imagine that, in a greeting card devoted to a space-fiction theme, that the phrase "black hole" refers to prostitutes of African descent.

Only a racist could see the "Willy Horton Ad" and assume the GOP was "racist" for airing it. After all, not one single word indicates, on that ad, Willy Horton's race. All it shows is a bunch of men in convict uniforms, of various races, going out, then back in, a revolving door.

But the NAACP's only purpose for existence today is the perpetuation of racism and the division of society along artificial racial lines. After all, blacks occupy positions in every high-market niche in American society today, from industry to media to the arts to government to the courts. The NAACP fulfilled it's purpose and should be allowed to die.
I think you have taken my statement out of context.

And, indeed, my statement is still correct:

"Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism."

That is not an incorrect statement.

Accusing people unjustly of racism, however, could indeed be racism...But on the other hand, it could be a misunderstanding or intentional misinterpretation.
 
I think you have taken my statement out of context.

And, indeed, my statement is still correct:

"Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism."

That is not an incorrect statement.

Accusing people unjustly of racism, however, could indeed be racism...But on the other hand, it could be a misunderstanding or intentional misinterpretation.

Yes, accusing people of racism without evidence is itself a racist act.

It's an act of malice with the intent to harm the character and reputation of the accused. It's no different than accusing a man of rape without evidence, or a bank teller of being light fingered without evidence.

Which means the statement is in fact incorrect.
 
Sure it is.

Only a racist could possibly imagine that, in a greeting card devoted to a space-fiction theme, that the phrase "black hole" refers to prostitutes of African descent.

Only a racist could see the "Willy Horton Ad" and assume the GOP was "racist" for airing it. After all, not one single word indicates, on that ad, Willy Horton's race. All it shows is a bunch of men in convict uniforms, of various races, going out, then back in, a revolving door.

But the NAACP's only purpose for existence today is the perpetuation of racism and the division of society along artificial racial lines. After all, blacks occupy positions in every high-market niche in American society today, from industry to media to the arts to government to the courts. The NAACP fulfilled it's purpose and should be allowed to die.

Actually - there are several reasons why the term 'black hole' is considered racist.
For one - a lot of people think that anything with the term 'black' in it is racist in some way - black coffee, black humor - stuff like that.
However, this really seared it into history as a racist term

I disagree, however - it's scientific-related use to term somethign that "matter goes into and doesn't come out" is a common metaphor.

You know, though, the old phrase "takes one to know one" - that's not really true, that's just childish jibber tossed around on a playground. In the real world you don't have to walk a mile in a man's shoes to identify with his situation in life. . . or to declare his actions racist. People are quite capable of viewing something - and deeming it for what it is or isn't.
 
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are Black Holes not ominous?

Your really stretching it to considering this racism.
 
hmm black wholes are racist i knew it
dam you steven hawking you racist studying bastard
 
Yes, accusing people of racism without evidence is itself a racist act.
In most cases, yes. However, in politics, I think it likely that people have been accused of racism with no evidence and yet no racism on the accusers part whatsoever.

It's an act of malice with the intent to harm the character and reputation of the accused. It's no different than accusing a man of rape without evidence, or a bank teller of being light fingered without evidence.
Same as above.

Which means the statement is in fact incorrect.
No.

My statement was “Accusing people of racism is not an example of racism.”

While that can be racist, it is not necessarily so.

If someone has proof, or what they incorrectly think is proof, it would not be racism, although it might be misguided.

If their “proof”, however, is based on the race of the accused…

I, personally, have no proof that this accusation against Hallmark was spawned by racism.

But I think it likely, considering who made the accusation and that the card in question was obviously not racist.

It, IMO, would take someone with a biased start point (although I do not know that the bias was race-based) to get from the card to “Hallmark is racist”
 
Yes. Don't waste any effort on forming your own opinion on the ad itself.
I think since Lee Atwater was George Bush's campaign manager and the architect behind that campaign, what he says about the campaign is worth considering. I figured proof of him admitting to using the race card to get votes would be a pretty solid piece of evidence that Bush was using the race card to get votes. Do you disagree?

That's what thinking people do.

Thinking people also do research, like reading what the ad's designer said.
 
Yes. Don't waste any effort on forming your own opinion on the ad itself.

That's what thinking people do.

Moderator's Warning:
Do not do this. Stick to talking about the actual topic, not the faults of the members here
 
I can't figure out who is dumber....people who listen to records backwards, or these jackoffs.
 
I have a friend who is half ‘black-hole’ and this is racist!
 
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