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Do you own or someone in your household own a firearm?

Do you own or does someone in your household own a firearm?


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Hell yeah. I have to protect myself from all those neo-cons out there. Haven't seen any other threats around my spread in ages.
 
I'm getting my C&R soon, just finished the paperwork last night, need to drop it in the mail.
Nagants are pretty, cheap and with plenty of inexpensive ammo.
Looking at maybe adding a Mauser and a K31, the K31 is the most accurate of the 3.

I like FAL's too but I've been a fan of the AK for a long time and never got one.
That time is coming, I've also seen some reproduction semi auto WW2 guns that are bad ass.


My two favorite, more obscure brands of handguns are CZ and Jericho(Baby Eagles).
Solid construction at a fair price.

CZ is hardly obscure-its the most widely distributed 9MM in the world-overtook the Hi Power a while back and has been copied by numerous sources including Tanfolio (EAA/ TZ-75) Swiss (AT-84) and Turkey (The Armalite for example) among others. I shot for EAA using their "Witness" in Open IPSC (9X21)

Great guns. great steel. My favorite is a decock only version-the CZ75Police, I also have (among several 9mm) a Kadet in 22.

at one time people would pay 1000 bucks for one during the Iron curtain era. Then people wouldn't buy them because they were "too cheap" (325 or so).
 
For home defense, a good "Beginner gun" is the Remington 870 12 gauge pump shotgun. Buy shells in that 12 gauge rating that are 00 or 0 in the shot-number, known as "buckshot". As an added advantage, you can hunt game of varying sizes with it tolerably well.

If you want a handgun, a good beginner handgun would be a .38 revolver. Smith and Wesson is good. Ruger is okay, and considerably cheaper. Don't get a snubbie unless you're planning to do the concealed carry thing, which is fine but I don't get that impression from what you're saying.

A more serious handgun would be the Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm, semi-automatic pistol. This is the weapon that most of the pro's are going to these days.
agree but I recommend a Mossberg over the remington. Why? the safety is far better positioned on the mossberg

the remington has a better finish but the durability is about the same and the mossberg is cheaper.
 
This discussion will be useful when (or if) I purchase a firearm for the first time.

Thanks guys.
 
CZ is hardly obscure-its the most widely distributed 9MM in the world-overtook the Hi Power a while back and has been copied by numerous sources including Tanfolio (EAA/ TZ-75) Swiss (AT-84) and Turkey (The Armalite for example) among others. I shot for EAA using their "Witness" in Open IPSC (9X21)

Great guns. great steel. My favorite is a decock only version-the CZ75Police, I also have (among several 9mm) a Kadet in 22.

at one time people would pay 1000 bucks for one during the Iron curtain era. Then people wouldn't buy them because they were "too cheap" (325 or so).

In terms of the average person, if it isn't a Glock most people don't have a clue.

They have CZ 9mm makorovs for sale for $180-220 right now, used but in great condition.
Also have some CZ 7.62x25's running about $180 unissued, if I'm not mistaken.
 
In terms of the average person, if it isn't a Glock most people don't have a clue.

They have CZ 9mm makorovs for sale for $180-220 right now, used but in great condition.
Also have some CZ 7.62x25's running about $180 unissued, if I'm not mistaken.

The older ones I've seen are a heavy hunk of steel, but they do appear to be very nicely machined. One of my buddies is nuts about makarovs.
 
The older ones I've seen are a heavy hunk of steel, but they do appear to be very nicely machined. One of my buddies is nuts about makarovs.

As far as I can tell they look well made.
If they are anything like their modern counterparts, I'm guaranteed they are excellent.

Right now makarovs are dirt cheap and plentiful.
 
As far as I can tell they look well made.
If they are anything like their modern counterparts, I'm guaranteed they are excellent.

Right now makarovs are dirt cheap and plentiful.

GOt a Russian made one and have shot an Arsenal (Bulgarian one) a bit. I love the target sights they slapped on some of them to beat the moronic GCA 68 import restrictions. THe ammo is much cheaper than the less powerful 380. I might have to get one of the CZ 83 jobs in the 9X18 too
 
In terms of the average person, if it isn't a Glock most people don't have a clue.

They have CZ 9mm makorovs for sale for $180-220 right now, used but in great condition.
Also have some CZ 7.62x25's running about $180 unissued, if I'm not mistaken.

yeah I see your point. I tend to hang out with well educated gun people though. My 12 year old can pretty much ID just about any pistol that has had more than 100K copies made--of course he spends a few hours a week in a Gunshop/range and has been to about 50 gun shows by now. most of the 7.62X25 ammo tends to be corrosive IIRC. THere is a place about 18 minutes from me that carries lots of ammo-the wife goes up there at least once a month to save on shipping charges-its called AIM Surplus.
 
yeah I see your point. I tend to hang out with well educated gun people though. My 12 year old can pretty much ID just about any pistol that has had more than 100K copies made--of course he spends a few hours a week in a Gunshop/range and has been to about 50 gun shows by now. most of the 7.62X25 ammo tends to be corrosive IIRC. THere is a place about 18 minutes from me that carries lots of ammo-the wife goes up there at least once a month to save on shipping charges-its called AIM Surplus.

AIM is near you? :shock:

Lucky. :(
 
AIM is near you? :shock:

Lucky. :(

yeah 20 minutes at most. I buy 95% of the 9mm and all of my rifle ammo from them these days. 45 and 38 and most shotgun stuff I reload
 
I eventually want to go throught the hassle of getting an FFLIII under the collector portion of the license. Love the M.Nagant, fantastic rifle, not a fan of the AK, more prefer the G3, FAMAS, or FAL. I own a baby eagle .40 and I absolutely LOVE that gun, it sounds like a .40, hits like a .40, but kicks like a .22, very accurate and repositioning for a second shot is a breeze.

Not familiar with the baby eagle- tell me about it.:) I don't like shooting long guns because of the recoil and noise, but this one sounds like a maybe.
The nice thing about the AK is its ability to put up with abuse and neglect and still work. Not a great gun, but highly reliable to work.:mrgreen:
 
I guess a handgun. I don't know. Although my neighbor has a long gun that I like. We haven't had much trouble but our balconies overlook the whole block.

Imo, every man (and some women;)) should own a hand gun, at least one rifle, and a shotgun. If I had to pick just one, it would probably be the shotgun.
 
I have no reason to be paranoid about the govt, even when I was a member of the NRA. I left them when they tried to justify civilian ownership of cop killer bullets. Seems paramilitary and paranoid go together too often. I own a .22 caliber target pistol, and can hit any man sized target dead on at up to 200 feet....

Pardon me, but what exactly are cop-killer bullets?
 
Imo, every man (and some women;)) should own a hand gun, at least one rifle, and a shotgun. If I had to pick just one, it would probably be the shotgun.

For me it would be a P38 and a Mini 14. Handy and reliable.
 
Pardon me, but what exactly are cop-killer bullets?

Realistically, anything over .40 cal is probably likely to penetrate a bullet proof vest that a police officer wears.

As for the fantasy world of "cop killer bullets", I'm not sure how they made bullets that only kill cops or why they would make them.
Seems pretty crazy to me. :shrug:
 
All bullets have metal jackets.

"Armor piercing rounds" is highly subjective, considering that all armors are not made to withstand all bullets.

How Do Armor Piercing Bullets Work? - Bulletproof vests don't protect against them - Softpedia

The armor piercing bullets fired from rifles are strengthened with a copper or cupro-nickel jacket, much like the jacket that surrounds lead in a conventional projectile, a jacket which is destroyed upon impact to allow the penetrating charge to continue its movement through the targeted substance.
 

All bullets have a metal jacket.

What they article is referring to is the bullet itself being made out of a harder metal than lead.
These bullets contain a even harder core, like steel, which continues to move while the outer shell is destroyed, on impact.

Poor wording for the person writing the article.

This picture should help,

250px-ArmorPiercingShell.png


As for "cop killer bullets", that is just emotional bait language for people who are ignorant of firearms and ammunition.
 
All bullets have a metal jacket.

What they article is referring to is the bullet itself being made out of a harder metal than lead.
These bullets contain a even harder core, like steel, which continues to move while the outer shell is destroyed, on impact.

Poor wording for the person writing the article.

This picture should help,

250px-ArmorPiercingShell.png


As for "cop killer bullets", that is just emotional bait language for people who are ignorant of firearms and ammunition.

Not all bullets have a metal jacket. Standard Ball, usually used for "plinking" doesn't have a metal jacket. Many carbine rounds such as .30 carbine often don't either. I was just trying to give a brief explanation of what the term "cop-killer" rounds meant, briefly.
 
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For home defense, a good "Beginner gun" is the Remington 870 12 gauge pump shotgun. Buy shells in that 12 gauge rating that are 00 or 0 in the shot-number, known as "buckshot". As an added advantage, you can hunt game of varying sizes with it tolerably well.

If you want a handgun, a good beginner handgun would be a .38 revolver. Smith and Wesson is good. Ruger is okay, and considerably cheaper. Don't get a snubbie unless you're planning to do the concealed carry thing, which is fine but I don't get that impression from what you're saying.

A more serious handgun would be the Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm, semi-automatic pistol. This is the weapon that most of the pro's are going to these days.
You know some stuff! This is exactly the kind of help I need. Thank you. My sister should get one too.
 
For home defense, a good "Beginner gun" is the Remington 870 12 gauge pump shotgun. Buy shells in that 12 gauge rating that are 00 or 0 in the shot-number, known as "buckshot". As an added advantage, you can hunt game of varying sizes with it tolerably well.

If you want a handgun, a good beginner handgun would be a .38 revolver. Smith and Wesson is good. Ruger is okay, and considerably cheaper. Don't get a snubbie unless you're planning to do the concealed carry thing, which is fine but I don't get that impression from what you're saying.

A more serious handgun would be the Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm, semi-automatic pistol. This is the weapon that most of the pro's are going to these days.

I agree fully. Beginners shoul trend towards revolvers and pump-action shotguns as they are less prone to failure.
 
I agree fully. Beginners shoul trend towards revolvers and pump-action shotguns as they are less prone to failure.

True. Rossi, Taurus and Charter Arms make great little .38 revolvers for the money. S&W is a great gun, but much of what you are paying for is the name (no problem with that, it's just an expensive name;)). Revolvers are great for beginners and women who don't have the hand stength required for semi-automatics. The safest gun for the beginner is the revolver.
 
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