Do you own or someone in your household own a firearm?

The whole thing is funny but 2:36 is where the talk about guns starts.

Apocalypse said:

Yeah, but then again go ahead and try hiding a rifle under your pillow.

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Don't need to, my gun cabinet sits by my bed with a speed-dial combo and lots of nasties inside.

Goshin said:

Don't need to, my gun cabinet sits by my bed with a speed-dial combo and lots of nasties inside.

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If you keep feeding me strait lines like that, I am going to get in trouble...

Orion said:

The whole thing is funny but 2:36 is where the talk about guns starts.

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I love that scene, it's hilarious. :mrgreen:

A few. Gifts from my father and my wife's father. I have no need for them so they're in the basement somewhere.

UtahBill said:

I have never been harrassed by a cop during any administration.....Yes, I do see a pattern, of paranoia....

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Yeah, pretty much. I have never been harassed by a cop under any circumstances and I am friends with a large number of them. Are there bad cops? Sure, just like there are bad seeds in every profession. Does that give one a license to be paranoid? No.

Besides, I love how the story started "He was driving through a seedy part of town..." Yeah, that was the initial problem right there. Maybe if you stay out of the bad, high-crime parts of town, you won't have those problems.

VoodooChild said:

Do you own or someone in your household own a firearm?



Simple question...

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Nope - don't own one. I use to but I don't think my husband ever has.
He's assigned several, however, which he carries while on duty - and he's a ind sharpshooter.

UtahBill said:

Criminals seldom use rifles, and have you seen the new pistol rounds? Look like rifle bullets...and designed to penetrate vests...
What possible use could they serve in civilian hands?

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I normally practice on head size targets so that would negate armor-piercing rounds. Do you know what caliber round those are? In any event, you won't find them in your local Walmart.

Cephus said:

Yeah, pretty much. I have never been harassed by a cop under any circumstances and I am friends with a large number of them. Are there bad cops? Sure, just like there are bad seeds in every profession. Does that give one a license to be paranoid? No.

Besides, I love how the story started "He was driving through a seedy part of town..." Yeah, that was the initial problem right there. Maybe if you stay out of the bad, high-crime parts of town, you won't have those problems.

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Seeing as how the major route we both travel to work goes through a seedy part of town, it's kind of difficult to avoid that area. No one has a problem going through the area, unless they are forced by two overzealous cops to walk through the area. Then it can get a little hairy since the criminal element is already heavily armed. We're not fortunate to live in uptown where you guys must live,

bicycleman said:

I normally practice on head size targets so that would negate armor-piercing rounds. Do you know what caliber round those are? In any event, you won't find them in your local Walmart.

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I forget the caliber and brand of gun, but saw the ammo on display at Cabella's. Looks lethal just sitting there...Go to your local gun store and have a look....

For home defense, I would never use a pistol or rifle that might penetrate walls. A shotgun with medium shot for the first round will stop an attacker cold, and isn't likely to go thru a wall to hit your own kids, or the neighbor's.....
Hell, just hearing the sound of a pump action shot gun should make a sober burglar crap himself....

UtahBill said:

I forget the caliber and brand of gun, but saw the ammo on display at Cabella's. Looks lethal just sitting there...Go to your local gun store and have a look....

For home defense, I would never use a pistol or rifle that might penetrate walls. A shotgun with medium shot for the first round will stop an attacker cold, and isn't likely to go thru a wall to hit your own kids, or the neighbor's.....
Hell, just hearing the sound of a pump action shot gun should make a sober burglar crap himself....

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A coworker of mine bought himself a 20 gage shotgun. He wanted to try it out, but unfortunately, he lives in the city. Then he gets this bright idea that he will fire it in his garage, since his garage is made of cement blocks. Well, he fired it and blew a hole through the back of his garage. It was a good thing there was a vacant field behind his garage, and the garage muffled the noise.. Now, he thought it was so funny, he shared it with his coworkers. True story. For home defense, I'll take my .45 any day. The shotgun is for those times when things really get hairy and there's a lot of them coming at you.

bicycleman said:

A coworker of mine bought himself a 20 gage shotgun. He wanted to try it out, but unfortunately, he lives in the city. Then he gets this bright idea that he will fire it in his garage, since his garage is made of cement blocks. Well, he fired it and blew a hole through the back of his garage. It was a good thing there was a vacant field behind his garage, and the garage muffled the noise.. Now, he thought it was so funny, he shared it with his coworkers. True story. For home defense, I'll take my .45 any day. The shotgun is for those times when things really get hairy and there's a lot of them coming at you.

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That wasn't bird shot, probably not even rabbit shot. Plus, the sound must have been deafening.... Years ago a friend was dryfiring his .357 in the mirror from the second floor of his apartment building. He dropped only 5 rounds out of the cylinder onto his bed, didn't count them. There was one left. The resulting hole thru the mirror and frame wall showed the parking lot of a nearby drug store. It was very early or very late in the day, I forget which, and no one got hit...

A yappy dog is a good thing for home defense....

VoodooChild said:

Do you own or someone in your household own a firearm?



Simple question...

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I have 47 firearms in my home and another half dozen in other locations. An impressive, extensive and diverse collection I have. The historic and the sentimental.

I own three pistols.

UtahBill said:

I forget the caliber and brand of gun, but saw the ammo on display at Cabella's. Looks lethal just sitting there...Go to your local gun store and have a look....

For home defense, I would never use a pistol or rifle that might penetrate walls. A shotgun with medium shot for the first round will stop an attacker cold, and isn't likely to go thru a wall to hit your own kids, or the neighbor's.....
Hell, just hearing the sound of a pump action shot gun should make a sober burglar crap himself....

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I prefer rifles and pistols. I can't do a very good "hostage rescue shot" with a shotgun, tends to splatter the hostage too. :mrgreen:

Where I live, overpenetration isn't much of a worry, a loose round will almost certainly hit a tree before it comes near endangering anybody.

Glaser safety slugs for those who have less elbow room.

Cephus said:

Yeah, pretty much. I have never been harassed by a cop under any circumstances and I am friends with a large number of them. Are there bad cops? Sure, just like there are bad seeds in every profession. Does that give one a license to be paranoid? No.

Besides, I love how the story started "He was driving through a seedy part of town..." Yeah, that was the initial problem right there. Maybe if you stay out of the bad, high-crime parts of town, you won't have those problems.

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On a counterpoint.... I've been harassed by bad cops twice. Also, I was almost arrested on two seperate occasions due to mistaken identity. Also, a trooper and I had some words because the trooper didn't know the law and I did... as I eventually proved by getting a letter sent to all SC trooper stations with the SC AttyGeneral's paper on CCW in automobiles.

In a way that's kind of funny, considering that I used to BE a cop, and that I have a clean record with no felonies or even misdemeanors other than traffic citations. Nor do I live in an urban area, I live out in the country.

Then again I've had an oddly-eventful life in many other ways as well. :mrgreen:

I own a 12 guage Remmy.

Goshin said:

On a counterpoint.... I've been harassed by bad cops twice. Also, I was almost arrested on two seperate occasions due to mistaken identity. Also, a trooper and I had some words because the trooper didn't know the law and I did... as I eventually proved by getting a letter sent to all SC trooper stations with the SC AttyGeneral's paper on CCW in automobiles.

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Even so, and I already said there were bad cops out there, that doesn't give anyone a reason to be absolutely paranoid. Is it possible that some cop is going to pull you over and shoot you in the face? Sure, it's possible. Is it likely? Not remotely. There are very few people who have had such experiences in the population, but lots of people take these very few anecdotes and blow it entirely out of proportion.

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Even so, and I already said there were bad cops out there, that doesn't give anyone a reason to be absolutely paranoid. Is it possible that some cop is going to pull you over and shoot you in the face? Sure, it's possible. Is it likely? Not remotely. There are very few people who have had such experiences in the population, but lots of people take these very few anecdotes and blow it entirely out of proportion.

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I agree with this. People talk about the bad incidents, remember them and repeat them, but rarely mention the good ones.

When I was about 4, I was playing in a playground with my sister and got struck in the head with a metal swing (back in the bad old days when playground safety was an oxymoron, lol). She was 15, and when she saw that I was gushing blood she tried to flag down passing cars to take me to the hospital. Several cars passed without stopping, then a police car stopped and took us straight to the hospital. I owe a debt of thanks to that cop and I never got his name.

No, nobody in my household owns a firearm.

More than I can count. I have won at least a couple dozen or more including a glock recently, two snubbies, 10 other handguns (another glock, a walther PPK, a Glock 22, a SW 45, a SW 357, a Browning HiPower) some longguns such as as a ,TC semi auto 22 rifle, a Browning Citori hunting shotgun etc.

Just bought another rifle today-went by a friend's gunshop after picking up a delivery of ammo and a pistol I had lent another friend at a gunshow. My buddy who runs the shop wasn't at the show but was at his shop and my boy wanted to drop by the shop so we went. He had a like new (never shot -100 bucks off new IZHMASH Russian basic biathlon rifle for 300 dollars. ITs got one of those neat toggle bolts on it and while it is designed for hunting rather than serious competition (has a scope rail rather than biathlon legal aperture sight) it looked pretty neat and my son really liked it so we got it. My son shoots alot-has already passed (he isn't old enough to carry at age 12) the advanced CCW shooting class here in ohio and has won several shooting events including a pistol tournament on falling steel plates beating several dozen adults.

I have everything from serious target rifles (Anchutz and Spring Armory Super National Match and a RRA DCM AR 15 and a Colt H-Bar), serious target pistols (SW 41, RRA national Match 45, ) target shotguns (K-80 Olympic skeet, remington 3200 Olympic trap, Beretta-briley American skeet tube set) lots of military style rilfes such as AK 74 (red jacket-the best) AK 47 (again Red Jacket-the best) Steyr AUG. and the american made microtech copy, AR's (Colt, RRA, Bushmaster, Armalite, S&W, Lewis Machine) FAL (Browning, DSA and Inbel) etc

all in heavy duty electronic controlled safes

UtahBill said:

I have no reason to be paranoid about the govt, even when I was a member of the NRA. I left them when they tried to justify civilian ownership of cop killer bullets.

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I see you've fallen victim to the propaganda of the anti-gun left.

This will not be a surprise to anyone that pays any attention, but I own several guns.

Goobieman said:

I see you've fallen victim to the propaganda of the anti-gun left.

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I see you cannot read....
I own a gun, at one time owned as many as 3 of them.
I am for responsible ownership of guns, and if you can be even remotely identified as stupid, or mentally/emotionally unstable, you should not be allowed to own one.
Skinheads come to mind....it takes a dozen of them to come up with one brain.:2razz:

UtahBill said:

I see you cannot read....
I own a gun, at one time owned as many as 3 of them.
I am for responsible ownership of guns, and if you can be even remotely identified as stupid, or mentally/emotionally unstable, you should not be allowed to own one.
Skinheads come to mind....it takes a dozen of them to come up with one brain.:2razz:

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I was referring specifically to your use of the term "cop killer bullets".
That entire issue is hooey, conjured up by those who oppose the free ownership of guns by the law-abiding public.