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Mosque near WTC moves forward

Regarding the "Cordoba House" mosque being built 2 blocks from ground zero in NYC...

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Blackdog said:


"What could be code-breaking evidence of the latter explanation is to be found in the newly-disclosed redesign of the Missile Defense Agency logo.... As Logan helpfully shows, the new MDA shield appears ominously to reflect a morphing of the Islamic crescent and star with the Obama campaign logo."
However, Al Kamen reports that the new Missile Defense Agency logo is over three years old and was actually developed during the George Bush administration."

He is the worst kind of political hack.

He is everything I said.

Anything else? :lol:
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is this the same thing Fox News tried to do and was exposed on also?
 
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Centrist77 said:
is this the same thing Fox News tried to do and was exposed on also?
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I don't know. Even though I am conservative, I don't really watch Fox.
 
Blackdog said:
I don't know. Even though I am conservative, I don't really watch Fox.
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hmmmm ill find the clip and maybe it will shed light on it. Might be a totally different thing but sounds the same they tried to say it was a symbol meant to look like islam moon etc but then we actually searched it was found pout it was designed after the atom LMAO

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Centrist77 said:
hmmmm ill find the clip and maybe it will shed light on it. Might be a totally different thing but sounds the same they tried to say it was a symbol meant to look like islam moon etc but then we actually searched it was found pout it was designed after the atom LMAO

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Yea it is pretty silly. The hard core conservatives around here can be a bit loony at times. Don't get me wrong so do the lefties. The fringe of any movement is always soooooo out there.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
ZOMG! Mosques are scary and we need to be protected from them.
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People who believe in an imaginary man in the sky who commands them to be slaves and to help him enslave others and kill people for leaving the slavery is pretty ****ing scary to me.
 
Agent Ferris said:
People who believe in an imaginary man in the sky who commands them to be slaves and to help him enslave others and kill people for leaving the slavery is pretty ****ing scary to me.
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And I know people who honestly believe that the selfishness of one will benefit the many. Crazy world, eh?
 
Blackdog said:
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None of these are contradictions. I am not going to derail the thread with a Bible study, but I will say they are taken completely out of context and have no bearing on each other.

You really need a Bible study.
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Ya I guess when Jebus tells people to sell their belongings and buy a sword he means to buy some flowers, and when he explicitly tells them he has come to make war not peace he really meant that he came to bring cake and ice cream. You see it's all about the context. ****ing theists. :roll:
 
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Hoplite said:
And I know people who honestly believe that the selfishness of one will benefit the many. Crazy world, eh?
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And what does that have to do with people following an imaginary man in the sky, being his slaves, helping to enslave others, and killing those who opt to leave the slavery?
 
Agent Ferris said:
Ya I guess when he tells people to buy a sword he means to buy some flowers, and when he explicitly tells them he has come to make war not peace he really meant that he came to bring cake and ice cream. You see it's all about the context. ****ing theists. :roll:
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He told them to buy one for self defense, not offense. :roll:

You really need to actually learn at least a little about the religions and people you are trying so desperately to bash.
 
Anarcho-fascist said:
If they wan't to build a mosque let them build a mosque. It won't hurt anyone.
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Neither will the hundreds of people protesting outside that Mosque everyday with signs reading "Islam = Slavery" and nice little pictures of gays and women being stoned to death. I'm sure all of you apologists will suddenly forget all about your new found admiration of the 1st amendment when that happens.
 
Blackdog said:
He told them to buy one for self defense, not offense. :roll:
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Wouldn't self defense contradict turn the other cheek.

You really need to actually learn at least a little about the religions and people you are trying so desperately to bash.
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Ya and then maybe I'll learn "not to bring peace" actually means "to bring peace" then I could be as smart as the average theist.
 
bhkad said:
In April 1987, Mr. Gaffney was nominated by President Reagan to become the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy, the senior position in the Defense Department with responsibility for policies involving nuclear forces, arms control and U.S.-European defense relations. He acted in that capacity for seven months during which time, he was the Chairman of the prestigious High Level Group, NATO's senior politico-military committee. He also represented the Secretary of Defense in key U.S.-Soviet negotiations and ministerial meetings.

From August 1983 until November 1987, Mr. Gaffney was the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Forces and Arms Control Policy under Assistant Secretary Richard Perle. From February 1981 to August 1983, Mr. Gaffney was a Professional Staff Member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, chaired by Senator John Tower (R-Texas). In the latter 1970's, Mr. Gaffney served as an aide to the late Senator Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (D-Washington) in the areas of defense and foreign policy.

Mr. Gaffney holds a Master of Arts degree in International Studies from the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies and a Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service.
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Blackdog said:
In October 2008, Gaffney questioned whether then Senator Barack Obama of Illinois is a "natural born citizen of the United States" and his legal eligibility to be the President of the United States.

In a February 2009 Washington Times column, Gaffney accused President Obama of "embracing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood," a militant organization banned throughout the Middle East.

In April 2009, Gaffney appeared on television and accused President Obama of using coded language to indicate that America would submit to Sharia law.

In a June 9, 2009, Washington Times article Gaffney wrote: "With Mr. Obama's unbelievably ballyhooed address in Cairo Thursday to what he calls "the Muslim world" (hereafter known as "the Speech"), there is mounting evidence that the president not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself."

Gaffney continued his "Obama as Crypto-Muslim" theme in another article on February 24, 2010. In his column on Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment blog, Gaffney attacked the administration's plans to modernize and update the missile defense program as "US submission to Islam" from "an Alinsky acolite", citing as "evidence" the redesigned logo of the Missile Defense Agency.

"Team Obama’s anti-anti-missile initiatives are not simply acts of unilateral disarmament of the sort to be expected from an Alinsky acolyte. They seem to fit an increasingly obvious and worrying pattern of official U.S. submission to Islam and the theo-political-legal program the latter’s authorities call Shariah.

"What could be code-breaking evidence of the latter explanation is to be found in the newly-disclosed redesign of the Missile Defense Agency logo.... As Logan helpfully shows, the new MDA shield appears ominously to reflect a morphing of the Islamic crescent and star with the Obama campaign logo."
However, Al Kamen reports that the new Missile Defense Agency logo is over three years old and was actually developed during the George Bush administration."

He is the worst kind of political hack. One that is a bigot and hides behind intellectualism to disguise his bigotry.

I am not even going into the fact he is a tin foil hat wearing Republican.

He is everything I said.

Anything else? :lol:

PS here is the best one...

"On March 12, 2009, Gaffney appeared on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews and accused Iraqi President Saddam Hussein of being involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the Oklahoma City bombing, "There is also circumstantial evidence, not proven by any means, but nonetheless some pretty compelling circumstantial evidence of Saddam Hussein's Iraq being involved with the people who perpetrated both the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center and even the Oklahoma City bombing."

:rofl

He just gets better and better! :lol:
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Don't want this to get lost so people can see what we are dealing with here.
 
Centrist77 said:
Nothing wrong with building a mosque there IMO sorry.
Its no more "offensive" or "poor taste" or "wrong" than building or keeping a catholic church by or near where a abortion doctor was killed or near a school since that religion has in fact covered up child abuse

no this is not a catholic abuse thread, thats my religion mind you, even though im considered a bad catholic by some, just saying the so called "parallels" are similar, a little different because of the amount of death and what the koran preaches but not really.

Theres millions of muslims that do not want to kill us and muslims in OUR military (like 20K I think) that some have DIED fighting for YOUR freedom so I have no problem with the mosque or the freedom of Religion

just like there are millions of catholics that dont bomb abortion clinics or rape children

its silly to condemn all based on some
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There's plenty of White Power fanatics in our military too.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Wouldn't self defense contradict turn the other cheek.
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No. Not by any means. It's not like I expect you to know the historical reference to the term or how it was used in ancient Israel.

Agent Ferris said:
Ya and then maybe I'll learn "not to bring peace" actually means "to bring peace" then I could be as smart as the average theist.
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Again taken out of context with no knowledge at all of what he was conveying.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Tell me in what possible context could "not to bring peace" actually mean "to bring peace"? Please explain that to me.
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This is not a Bible study and it is getting off topic.

If you want to know what the Bible really says you have to know at least a little bit about the history of the people and times. You also need to know who Jesus etc was speaking to.
 
Blackdog said:
This is not a Bible study and it is getting off topic.

If you want to know what the Bible really says you have to know at least a little bit about the history of the people and times. You also need to know who Jesus etc was speaking to.
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I posted what the bible really said, he said on more than one occasion that he came to make war not peace.
 
Agent Ferris said:
I posted what the bible really said, he said on more than one occasion that he came to make war not peace.
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Again you have no idea what he was talking about, period.

The fact is you want it to mean something other than what it does.

So I would just be waisting my time. You have shown to not be worth the trouble.
 
bhkad said:
In April 1987, Mr. Gaffney was nominated by President Reagan to become the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy, the senior position in the Defense Department with responsibility for policies involving nuclear forces, arms control and U.S.-European defense relations. He acted in that capacity for seven months during which time, he was the Chairman of the prestigious High Level Group, NATO's senior politico-military committee. He also represented the Secretary of Defense in key U.S.-Soviet negotiations and ministerial meetings.

From August 1983 until November 1987, Mr. Gaffney was the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Forces and Arms Control Policy under Assistant Secretary Richard Perle. From February 1981 to August 1983, Mr. Gaffney was a Professional Staff Member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, chaired by Senator John Tower (R-Texas). In the latter 1970's, Mr. Gaffney served as an aide to the late Senator Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (D-Washington) in the areas of defense and foreign policy.

Mr. Gaffney holds a Master of Arts degree in International Studies from the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies and a Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service.
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Blackdog said:
In October 2008, Gaffney questioned whether then Senator Barack Obama of Illinois is a "natural born citizen of the United States" and his legal eligibility to be the President of the United States.

In a February 2009 Washington Times column, Gaffney accused President Obama of "embracing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood," a militant organization banned throughout the Middle East.

In April 2009, Gaffney appeared on television and accused President Obama of using coded language to indicate that America would submit to Sharia law.

In a June 9, 2009, Washington Times article Gaffney wrote: "With Mr. Obama's unbelievably ballyhooed address in Cairo Thursday to what he calls "the Muslim world" (hereafter known as "the Speech"), there is mounting evidence that the president not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself."

Gaffney continued his "Obama as Crypto-Muslim" theme in another article on February 24, 2010. In his column on Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment blog, Gaffney attacked the administration's plans to modernize and update the missile defense program as "US submission to Islam" from "an Alinsky acolite", citing as "evidence" the redesigned logo of the Missile Defense Agency.

"Team Obama’s anti-anti-missile initiatives are not simply acts of unilateral disarmament of the sort to be expected from an Alinsky acolyte. They seem to fit an increasingly obvious and worrying pattern of official U.S. submission to Islam and the theo-political-legal program the latter’s authorities call Shariah.

"What could be code-breaking evidence of the latter explanation is to be found in the newly-disclosed redesign of the Missile Defense Agency logo.... As Logan helpfully shows, the new MDA shield appears ominously to reflect a morphing of the Islamic crescent and star with the Obama campaign logo."
However, Al Kamen reports that the new Missile Defense Agency logo is over three years old and was actually developed during the George Bush administration."

He is the worst kind of political hack. One that is a bigot and hides behind intellectualism to disguise his bigotry.

I am not even going into the fact he is a tin foil hat wearing Republican.

He is everything I said.

Anything else? :lol:

PS here is the best one...

"On March 12, 2009, Gaffney appeared on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews and accused Iraqi President Saddam Hussein of being involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the Oklahoma City bombing, "There is also circumstantial evidence, not proven by any means, but nonetheless some pretty compelling circumstantial evidence of Saddam Hussein's Iraq being involved with the people who perpetrated both the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center and even the Oklahoma City bombing."

:rofl

He just gets better and better! :lol:
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You are not burying this one so easily.
 
Agent Ferris said:
And what does that have to do with people following an imaginary man in the sky, being his slaves, helping to enslave others, and killing those who opt to leave the slavery?
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People believe crazy thing, get over it.
 
Blackdog said:
Again you have no idea what he was talking about, period.

The fact is you want it to mean something other than what it does.

So I would just be waisting my time. You have shown to not be worth the trouble.
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Yes I know in the world of the theist "not to bring peace" can somehow in context really mean "to bring peace" it's really quite astounding.
 
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