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Is a right delayed a right denied?

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We're all familiar with the famous quote from MLK2:

"A right delayed is a right denied"

Is this sound?
Does this argument apply to all rights, or only certain rights?
If not all, then which ones?
Why does it not apply to those you excluded?
 
We cannot suffer expedient relief from all of lifes perceived injustices.
If the law is reasonable tending to its own errors then we remain its benefactors. Even if it is slow the reward is tendered to the advocate eventually. The governments role is fulfilled.
 
We're all familiar with the famous quote from MLK2:

"A right delayed is a right denied"

Is this sound?
Does this argument apply to all rights, or only certain rights?
If not all, then which ones?
Why does it not apply to those you excluded?
Well, actually, I wasn't familiar with that quote.

But in response, I would say it is partially correct.

"A right delayed" is indeed "a right denied" in that any delay denies temporarily.

If it's a delay only because of processing time, or whatever, then that seems reasonable.
 
I'm inclined to say yes... but then again, circumstances are important.

How much delay? For what purpose? How do the duration and purpose of the delay relate to the exercise of the right in importance and urgency?
 
I'll have to go with a No vote, because rights, unless they are considered natural rights, evolve and change with humanity. Before something has been declared legally a right, whoever did not enjoy that right prior to enactment wasn't denied, but the right just did not exist at the time.
 
We cannot suffer expedient relief from all of lifes perceived injustices.
If the law is reasonable tending to its own errors then we remain its benefactors. Even if it is slow the reward is tendered to the advocate eventually. The governments role is fulfilled.
So you dsagree, and a right delayed is NOT a right denied.
Right?
 
depends. If you are delayed in voting past the time the poll closes t han your right delayed is a right denied. If you try to buy a gun and have to wait and are then killed or robbed-again that is a denial of a right
 
The poll needs a 'sort of' option or something like that. A right delayed is denied for the time that it is delayed. This is possibly okay depending on why it is being delayed.
 
It's an artificial milk substitute, 2nd prototype tested, as opposed to MLK1, which failed due to sabotage by...

:mrgreen:

Sometimes the places my mind goes make me think I'm insane...wait...

Anyway, I'm assuming he was referring to Martin Luther King Jr., or the second person by that name, thus M.L.K. 2
 
Not having heard MLK Jr actually use this quote, and not knowing if it was used in conjuction with other thoughts on the matter, and knowing the time period in which he lived, my impression is that he was probably referring to civil rights in specific- legislation establishing a "right", not rights which are already established legally, and not infringement on already existent legal rights. Am I missing something in the OP's question?
 
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The argument is not sound because it provides no context. There are constraints to every one of the rights in the constitution. For instance, you can't hold a protest in many cities without a permit. Your right to march can be delayed or denied if it endangers public safety or the safety of those marching.

If rights are denied broadly, indefinitely, and without justification or approval of the people, then the constitution is being violated and people should take up arms against their government.
 
I would say not necessarily denied (depending upon the actual right), but to delay is certainly to infringe upon...
 
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depends. If you are delayed in voting past the time the poll closes t han your right delayed is a right denied. If you try to buy a gun and have to wait and are then killed or robbed-again that is a denial of a right

It was'nt denied only -delayed until the next time you get to vote A reasonable person well assumes life is not always fair and sometimes we suffer," fate- The errors in life that are of no cause or malice .
If your shot and killed the Democrats still count your vote so the right was only delayed.
 
It was'nt denied only -delayed until the next time you get to vote A reasonable person well assumes life is not always fair and sometimes we suffer," fate- The errors in life that are of no cause or malice .
If your shot and killed the Democrats still count your vote so the right was only delayed.

I see DEAD PEOPLE VOTING!!
 
We're all familiar with the famous quote from MLK2:

"A right delayed is a right denied"

Is this sound?
Does this argument apply to all rights, or only certain rights?
If not all, then which ones?
Why does it not apply to those you excluded?

It all depends on what people think their "rights" are. There are still rights people feel they should have that lay outside the constitution.

For instance, some feel they have a right to have an abortion because it is their body. Well, a "right" delayed is a "right" denied.

Or a gun owner who has to wait a grace period to buy a gun, some could apply the quote here as well.

Concerning the constitution, I don't believe there is any situation that this quote would apply to. We all have the same rights and I feel the constitution is well balanced and includes the most important rights we should have.
 
By definition, a delay is a temporary denial.
 
It all depends on what people think their "rights" are. There are still rights people feel they should have that lay outside the constitution.

Or a gun owner who has to wait a grace period to buy a gun, some could apply the quote here as well.
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How is this an example of a right that lies outside the constitution?
 
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How is this an example of a right that lies outside the constitution?

It's not...the first example was one that lies outside the constitution. I was giving an example of where someone could apply the "right delayed is a right denied" quote.
 
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