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Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it?

Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it?


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Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it?

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Only in Commiefornia would something like this happen. Last I checked this was America, Not Mexico. So the so-called offended students have no business being offended by the American flag, nor did any teachers or administrators have any business telling the kids that they couldn't wear American flags on their clothes to not offend the Mexican and students and the students of Mexican decent.


Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees | NBC Bay Area

Updated 9:56 AM PDT, Thu, May 6, 2010

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On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.

"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.

The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."
 
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"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

Geesh what a bunch of cry babies.
 
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Personally, I support this. This way if I ever see someone burning the American flag, I have carte blanche to walk up to them and kick them square in the nuts because "they hurt my feelings".

You have a choice: be Mexican, or be American. Pick one.

I don't introduce myself as an Irish-Scottish-German-Polish-Native American-American. I don't have a passport from Berlin and Dublin. My last name doesn't begin with Mc or O' or anything like that. I'm an American.
 
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If people want to wear Mexico t-shirts, I could care less. I don't care if Cinco de Mayo is a Mexican holiday, the students should be allowed to wear what they want. Anyone who considers the American Flag to be incendiary has far bigger problems than someone wearing a shirt with the image of one.
 
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No.

Note the period.
 
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Should Gentiles be made to wear Ya micas during Hanukkah? Should non-Christians be forced to put up trees on Christmas? This is completely ridiculous, the school has no leg to stand. The Supreme Court has clearly ruled that students do not check their rights at the door.
 
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Should Gentiles be made to wear Ya micas during Hanukkah? Should non-Christians be forced to put up trees on Christmas? This is completely ridiculous, the school has no leg to stand. The Supreme Court has clearly ruled that students do not check their rights at the door.
I want to see a lawsuit.

ASAP.
 
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Personally, I support this. This way if I ever see someone burning the American flag, I have carte blanche to walk up to them and kick them square in the nuts because "they hurt my feelings".
Clearly, if simply wearing the flag is 'incendiary', the burning the is that much more so.
 
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No, that's flat-out ridiculous.
 
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No i think people should try to respect other peoples likes.However nobody should be forced to celebrate anything.
 
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If the wearing of the American flag/colors on shirts or headbands causes tension anywhere in the US, something is wrong.

A lecture/class on the history of the US flag may be in order.
 
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If wearing a gay pride shirt is enough to get kids kicked out of class, I have absolutely no problem with the American flag on a t-shirt being enough to do the same.
 
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Geesh what a bunch of cry babies.

The principal should be fired, and the students should sue him into oblivion. He's probably some NEA politically correct jerk anyway:mrgreen:
 
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If wearing a gay pride shirt is enough to get kids kicked out of class, I have absolutely no problem with the American flag on a t-shirt being enough to do the same.

Weird how you see no difference between a t-shirt promoting a sexual act and a shirt depicting the American flag. I'm failing to see the comparison.
 
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If wearing a gay pride shirt is enough to get kids kicked out of class, I have absolutely no problem with the American flag on a t-shirt being enough to do the same.

if the American flag offends someone TFB

plenty of honest citizens would be offended by what they see as deviancy

not me but I see a huge difference
 
Re: Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it

Weird how you see no difference between a t-shirt promoting a sexual act and a shirt depicting the American flag. I'm failing to see the comparison.

some people on this board hate America :mrgreen:
 
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While I strongly oppose the actions taken, a question has arisen from this thread.

If the students were actually causing or had the potential to cause a disruption due to their clothing choices, what were the school authorities supposed to do to prevent it?

As I understand it, the action taken might have defused the immediate situation.

So was it the right answer at the time?
 
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Why would a t-shirt depicting the flag of our country cause a problem?
 
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Why would a t-shirt depicting the flag of our country cause a problem?

apparently people who are hostile to the country that is giving them a free education might have been upset. Those are the ones whose heads should be cracked if they attacked people wearing american flags. If they are offended they should GTF out of the usa
 
Re: Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it

Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it?

Yes
No
I do not know/maybe




Only in Commiefornia would something like this happen. Last I checked this was America, Not Mexico. So the so-called offended students have no business being offended by the American flag, nor did any teachers or administrators have any business telling the kids that they couldn't wear American flags on their clothes to not offend the Mexican and students and the students of Mexican decent.


Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees | NBC Bay Area

Updated 9:56 AM PDT, Thu, May 6, 2010

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On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.

"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.

The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

I would say that the school needs to fire those officials. The officials in that school are wrong from asking students to change their wardrobe to better suit other students.

I think that vice principal needs to be canned.
 
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Weird how you see no difference between a t-shirt promoting a sexual act and a shirt depicting the American flag. I'm failing to see the comparison.

Homosexuality is not a sexual act. No wonder you fail to see the comparison. You don't even know what it is. :2wave:
 
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If somebody's clothing is disruptive then generally administrators will handle it by having the student change; it doesn't really matter what it is that is disrupting or who is offended/distracted by it because that's not a concern of the administration.

When I was in junior high a few friends started a "gang" where they wore a certain t-shirt, and even though it wasn't really a gang or anything the administration banned the t-shirt.

The only people that are upset about this are the hypocrites that got all up in arms about Mexican flags at the immigrant rights marches.
 
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Let's keep it real.

Why were they wearing it? Obviously, I guess they kind of wanted to get caught and say "wait why is this wrong" to prove a point. Even I did a similar thing in high school. I mean one of the kids is wearing flag colored shorts (I think), its clear the purpose and reasoning behind it. Its definitely debatable as to whether that's truly ethical or not.

However, its a valid argument. As we all know, high schools are prisons and the 1st Amendment is infringed upon day after day. Kicking the kids out of school is beyond wrong. I mean yes, go forth and celebrate Mexican culture and ethnicity, but why limit the expression of others just because it might incite a fight?

I play the BS card.
 
Re: Should school kids be kicked off campus for t-shirts with the American flag on it

Let's keep it real.

Why were they wearing it? Obviously, I guess they kind of wanted to get caught and say "wait why is this wrong" to prove a point. Even I did a similar thing in high school. I mean one of the kids is wearing flag colored shorts (I think), its clear the purpose and reasoning behind it. Its definitely debatable as to whether that's truly ethical or not.

However, its a valid argument. As we all know, high schools are prisons and the 1st Amendment is infringed upon day after day. Kicking the kids out of school is beyond wrong. I mean yes, go forth and celebrate Mexican culture and ethnicity, but why limit the expression of others just because it might incite a fight?

I play the BS card.

The school board has stated publicly that they disagreed with the actions of the administration. They noted there would be consequences. So... I guess the administrators will soon be hunting for a new job.
 
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