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Did Obama play Hide-the-Baloney with Vera?

Did Obama play Hide-the-Baloney with Vera?

  • Yeah Baby!

    Votes: 9 50.0%
  • Ugh, No.

    Votes: 9 50.0%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
Although his adversaries would no doubt make much of it, I doubt it would change anyone's opinion of him all that much.
His enemies would still detest him; his supporters would still love him.
Obama has never attempted to try and present himself as some sort of bastion of sexual morality or "family values".
It would be a little disappointing to some, perhaps. But his supporters in general are not likely to turn against him over it.
It's all hypothetical, anyway, at this point.
We don't know that he cheated on his wife.
If and when compelling evidence emerges, I guess it'll be dealt with then.
Obama tends to deal with smear-mongering rumors by ignoring them, a la the whole "fake birth certificate" flap.


The biggest way you could get the majority of Obama's supporters to turn against him?




Turn him into a white guy.........
 
Baloney is a poor analogy because baloney is usually sliced. You should have said "hide the weenie".:roll:
 
The biggest way you could get the majority of Obama's supporters to turn against him?

Turn him into a white guy.........

Are you serious? If you really believe this, you've totally misjudged.
 
Why do I care?

How would I know, and why would I care?

It shows that the person is morally lacking and untruthful and not someone we want in charge of our country. If someone cannot be faithful to thier spouse what makes us think they would be faithful to the people?

I dont care if they are rep, dem, ind, I feel if they have shown such a display if dishonesty they should not be allowed to hold a public office. (not saying he has done this).
 
You don't know and we know why Libs don't care.
They never do. Not with Bill Frist, Craig Livingstone, or Mark Foley.

Perjury, adultery, screwing the help, running a whore house... that certainly doesn't matter... so long as they're libs.

We know how you're screwed together.

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Frist is a Republican
 
if it is true, and it well could be, then he should learn from clinton and not lie about it
Americans will (generally) have no problem with infidelity, he's human ... it's the ensuing falsehoods that are unforgivable
 
if it is true, and it well could be, then he should learn from clinton and not lie about it
Americans will (generally) have no problem with infidelity, he's human ... it's the ensuing falsehoods that are unforgivable

That,.. and doing so while under oath and as a lawyer,... lnowing better.
 
How very classy. Throw crap at the wall and hope it sticks.

There isn't a single person that is now on this site, has ever been on this site or that will ever been on this site that has any means to know the answer to this ridiculous, inflammatory, and borderline liable claim. Nothing but a pure, unadultrated, unsubstantiated character assassination attempt. Unworthy of anything more than contempt.
 
So then isn't it equally despicable when the left makes false character attacks against conservatives? It's all disgusting. However, this is coming from a non partisan source, the National Enquirer. I don't think it was so much an Obama character attack as much as it was a very shocking tabloid article that people will read. They post this stuff to shock people so that they will buy their magazine, it's not a right-wing attack on the president. However, Obama does need to address this and prove his innocence, not lie like Clinton did.
 
However, Obama does need to address this and prove his innocence, not lie like Clinton did.

President Obama doesn't have to approve anything. He is innocent until proven guilty not the other way around. And why would he address this since so far it is only from the National Enquirer. Unless it is picked up by another source he just needs to ignore it.
 
President Obama doesn't have to approve anything. He is innocent until proven guilty not the other way around. And why would he address this since so far it is only from the National Enquirer. Unless it is picked up by another source he just needs to ignore it.

Well, it's just best to nip things in the bud. Something like this most definitely will go more mainstream and by then it will be harder to handle. He is innocent until proven guilty, but the American populace still remembers Clinton and doesn't necessarily always take things the rational way.
 
So then isn't it equally despicable when the left makes false character attacks against conservatives? It's all disgusting. However, this is coming from a non partisan source, the National Enquirer. I don't think it was so much an Obama character attack as much as it was a very shocking tabloid article that people will read. They post this stuff to shock people so that they will buy their magazine, it's not a right-wing attack on the president. However, Obama does need to address this and prove his innocence, not lie like Clinton did.

Did I say "left" or "right?"

What is it with some people and trying to get others to defend some nonsense they themselves invented in their own mind?

It isn't up to Obama to "prove" jack squat about anything in that POS trash can liner.
 
Well, it's just best to nip things in the bud. Something like this most definitely will go more mainstream and by then it will be harder to handle. He is innocent until proven guilty, but the American populace still remembers Clinton and doesn't necessarily always take things the rational way.

Ok I see where you are coming from now. And I agree with you in that Americans don't take things in a rational way. BUT at the same time as of now this is the same as the birther issue and that was even picked up by some mainstream sources. So, I would think he should just ignore it just like he is ignoring the birther issue.
 
Well, it's just best to nip things in the bud. Something like this most definitely will go more mainstream and by then it will be harder to handle. He is innocent until proven guilty, but the American populace still remembers Clinton and doesn't necessarily always take things the rational way.

i recalled having heard such sage advice previously. such a wise fellow:
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de_P2aUZJyA"]YouTube- Barney Fife - Nip It[/nomedia]



ole barney of the single bullet would probably expect one to prove a negative, too
 
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Danarhea has posted a thread which shows National Enquirer admitting the story is false:

Damn, if I was Obama, I would go after their money. But I'm not.

Hey, Enquirer. Over here. I am such a douche bag. Want to write about me? I could use some quick cash. :mrgreen:

Article is here.

So, I guess I don't get to be amused watching conservatives salivate anymore. Damn.
:2bigcry:
 
So then isn't it equally despicable when the left makes false character attacks against conservatives? It's all disgusting. However, this is coming from a non partisan source, the National Enquirer. I don't think it was so much an Obama character attack as much as it was a very shocking tabloid article that people will read. They post this stuff to shock people so that they will buy their magazine, it's not a right-wing attack on the president. However, Obama does need to address this and prove his innocence, not lie like Clinton did.

Whoa there young man. I, as a member of "the left" can say the exact same thing I have said when it is a right winger who get's caught...it ain't none of my damn business what politicians do in their free time. Their private life is theirs, we should butt the hell out.
 
Ok I see where you are coming from now. And I agree with you in that Americans don't take things in a rational way. BUT at the same time as of now this is the same as the birther issue and that was even picked up by some mainstream sources. So, I would think he should just ignore it just like he is ignoring the birther issue.

Obama did briefly address the birther issue though. He proved his citizenship by showing his Hawaii birth certificate. If I was Obama I would see if this story spreads at all, if it stays and the Enquirer level than it's really a non issue, but if people read this and it becomes an idea I would definitely come up and prove that it's false. Even though the whole birther thing was disprove there are many that cling to it, just like there will be some that cling to this. However sex scandals are a little different and Americans tend to not give the benefit of the doubt because often times the allegations are true and heavily denied before proof turns up (like with Clinton, Edwards, and Stanford). I think currently Obama should just ignore it, but if it gets around he needs to confront it and put an end to something that could be devastating.

Whoa there young man. I, as a member of "the left" can say the exact same thing I have said when it is a right winger who get's caught...it ain't none of my damn business what politicians do in their free time. Their private life is theirs, we should butt the hell out.

I'm not saying all liberals act irrationally like that. And I agree with you, sex scandals are none of the public's business. It should stay between those involved and not be leaked into the media. It damages the family and just hurts all around. However, the media can't let go of stuff like this and they foam at the mouth to report it. Plus Americans like watching it all like a sitcom and using the scandals to paint every member of that political party as an adulterous lier.
 
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I'm not saying all liberals act irrationally like that. And I agree with you, sex scandals are none of the public's business. It should stay between those involved and not be leaked into the media. It damages the family and just hurts all around. However, the media can't let go of stuff like this and they foam at the mouth to report it. Plus Americans like watching it all like a sitcom and using the scandals to paint every member of that political party as an adulterous lier.

But that is not a left/right thing. Singling out the left, for doing something the right does as well, and we both seem to agree is not the right thing to do, is just a manner of using scandal unfairly for political gain.
 
The biggest way you could get the majority of Obama's supporters to turn against him?

Turn him into a white guy.........

I was going to respond but then I see that you are an admitted asshole, so figured "well that explains it".
 
Just curious.

Now that it has been proven to be false, I wonder if all of you who voted yes can explain why. Because you don't like Obama? Because facts are meaningless to you?

Just wondering.
 
Whoa there young man. I, as a member of "the left" can say the exact same thing I have said when it is a right winger who get's caught...it ain't none of my damn business what politicians do in their free time. Their private life is theirs, we should butt the hell out.

Sorry, but no.

He is public property... just like those doctors in the process of being nationalized.

The only difference is Obama such situations make him a threat to national security. Blackmale by foreign governments... and the like.

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I bet you'd care if it were Sarah Palin.

I bet you would be wrong, and I bet I have publicly on these very boards stated the exact same thing about republican politicians. I am 100 % consistent in my stand here. Politicians should have a certain amount of privacy, and who they sleep with has zero bearing on their job.

To prove the point, here is an example of my defending the private life of a republican:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/47755-gop-governor-eyeing-senate-run-outed-film-tomorrow.html#post1058014636

I really want to agree with Dan here, but just cannot do it. At some point, I think every one, even politicians, should be accorded a certain amount of privacy, and who they sleep with falls within that amount of privacy. I just do not care if a politician is gay, or has an affair, or hosts wild orgies. We owe them that little bit of respect for their private lives.
 
Are you serious? If you really believe this, you've totally misjudged.


It is still my opinion that at least 51% of the people that voted for Obama did so because he was a black man and had a good chance of being our first Black president and no more reason than that.
 
It shows that the person is morally lacking and untruthful and not someone we want in charge of our country. If someone cannot be faithful to thier spouse what makes us think they would be faithful to the people?

I dont care if they are rep, dem, ind, I feel if they have shown such a display if dishonesty they should not be allowed to hold a public office. (not saying he has done this).


Hey... What if he was in one of those "open relationships" with his wife. You know where they can go bang anyone they want to.
 
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