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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

  • No

    Votes: 99 79.2%

  • Yes, explain

    Votes: 26 20.8%
  • Total voters
    125
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Southern Man said:
What's wrong with discrimination? Medical schools are very discriminating on who they graduate. Aren't you glad about that?
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Translation: I don't have any response so I'll discuss something completely different in the hopes that perhaps I can derail the discussion and not have to deal with the real issue.
 
Southern Man said:
What's a stawman, genius?
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A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet weaker proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
 
Centrist77 said:
actually what the count signifies is that all reasons have been thoroughly debunked per the OP and its criteria.
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Not really. You are however allowed to think what you like.

Centrist77 said:
Now we could ignore the criteria but for many reason explained by many people in this thread, that in itself would be hypocritical since the criteria is very AMEIRCAN based on the focus on equal rights, discrimination and separation of church/state, so its not just my opinion, thanks though. :D
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Unfortunately you want the "separation of church and state" to mean something it does not. This has been shown many MANY times, so not going into it again here.

You are very welcome.
 
Your Star said:
Discrimination isn't an opinion.
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I am not discriminating against anyone. I am however voting my conscience and not yours thank you very much. Since we are citizens we are allowed to do that for what ever reason.
 
Blackdog said:
Not really. You are however allowed to think what you like.
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reall? by all means then please post a reason that has not lol



Blackdog said:
Unfortunately you want the "separation of church and state" to mean something it does not. This has been shown many MANY times, so not going into it again here.
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really, "ME" hahahahahaha id like to see proof of this also but just like the other qoute you'll have none


Blackdog said:
You are very welcome
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I know :D
 
Blackdog said:
I am not discriminating against anyone. I am however voting my conscience and not yours thank you very much. Since we are citizens we are allowed to do that for what ever reason.
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this has been discussed and no one in this entire thread has argued aginst your simple right to vote but thanks for reminding us of this meaningless point
 
Your Star said:
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet weaker proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
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You're changing your tune now. Earlier you said "staw", not "straw". I know what a "straw man" is.

So what's wrong with making sure that folks are qualified for the privileges being granted?
 
Southern Man said:
You're changing your tune now. Earlier you said "staw", not "straw". I know what a "straw man" is.

So what's wrong with making sure that folks are qualified for the privileges being granted?
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And you continue with the strawman.

I know you think you're being cute, but your just making yourself look bad.
 
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Centrist77 said:
reall? by all means then please post a reason that has not lol
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Centrist77 said:
1 of course it matters in america what the morals are based on! If e dont look at what they are based on rights like freedom of speech and religion can be greatly hindered
so OTHER peole have stupid morals but yours is fine? got it lol
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Centrist77 said:
like I said of course what the morals are based on matter, because they matter to america, the bill of rights and the constitution. They matter no whether you acknowledge them or not
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Your whole argument is about how "your morals" are superior to everyone else's. How yours are so much more "American" etc.

In the end it's actually pretty funny...

of course it matters in america what the morals are based on! If e dont look at what they are based on rights like freedom of speech and religion can be greatly hindered
so OTHER peole have stupid morals but yours is fine? got it

Basically this statement is so hypocritical it is hilarious. :lol:

Centrist77 said:
really, "ME" hahahahahaha id like to see proof of this also but just like the other qoute you'll have none
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Centrist77 said:
Nope sorry you are arguing you RELIGION and if gay marriage is legal your religion isnt effected one single bit. Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american
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My reply...

Blackdog said:
Yes I want my moral values to be part of the society I live in. That is absolutely American.

I am not forcing anything on anyone. I will not however support something I think is wrong. This is also very American. It is what freedom to disagree is all about.

I served 12 years in this "American" military to have the right to say and think what I want. I put my life on the line to defend your right to do so as well.

That is American.
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That is just one example, their are many.

Centrist77 said:
I know :D
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Not really.
 
Centrist77 said:
this has been discussed and no one in this entire thread has argued aginst your simple right to vote but thanks for reminding us of this meaningless point
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Far from meaningless. It is the basis of our republic, but you would like to see freedom of thought or conscience done away with. So it is pretty relevant.
 
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Southern Man said:
Yeah whatever. But what's wrong with making sure that folks are qualified for the privileges being granted?
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How could gay couples not be possibly as qualified for marriage as straight couples?
 
Blackdog said:
Your whole argument is about how "your morals" are superior to everyone else's. How yours are so much more "American" etc.
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LMAO ok lets beat a dead horse and add more egg on your face if there is room
WRONG again its not about my morals its about THE LAW some how you seem to forget this and leave it out, im guessing its because you couldn't argue against it if you saw what was actually going on instead of making stuff up. For the last time, read it slow, take a breath, my, morals, have, no, impact, on, this, debate.
Sorry

Blackdog said:
In the end it's actually pretty funny...

of course it matters in america what the morals are based on! If e dont look at what they are based on rights like freedom of speech and religion can be greatly hindered
so OTHER peole have stupid morals but yours is fine? got it

Basically this statement is so hypocritical it is hilarious. :lol:
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
wow this is like OSTRICH egg on your face, obviously you just dont get what that meant in the discussion at hand LOL
instead you desperately try to mold it to what you want it to mean, but, it only makes you more wrong LOL, i seriously laughed out loud for real on that, thanks, if anything you are seriously entertaining


Blackdog said:
My reply...
Yes I want my moral values to be part of the society I live in. That is absolutely American.

I am not forcing anything on anyone. I will not however support something I think is wrong. This is also very American. It is what freedom to disagree is all about.

I served 12 years in this "American" military to have the right to say and think what I want. I put my life on the line to defend your right to do so as well.

That is American.
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this has been shot full of holds about 1000 times by many posters
if you are implying you simply have the right to vote your conscious like i said dearlier that is fine and your right nobody is arguing that strawman, of course you dont have to support it
what you have to understand is if you go out and vote against it by doing so, the end result wouldnt be discrimination so thats why this is easily debunked as not a good reason.

FAIL, like i knew you would

Ill be waiting for these many more! lol
(hint) come up with something NEW because anything in this thread has alrady be debunked ;)
 
Blackdog said:
Far from meaningless. It is the basis of our republic, but you would like to see freedom of thought or conscience done away with. So it is pretty relevant.
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???? do you like making stuff up as you go along? does it make you feel right when you are wrong?
LMAO sorry you couldnt be any further from the truth and nothing he implies that at all except in your fantasy world where you read what you want to, get a clue.

The parts I like best about your meaningless argument is YOU are always telling ME how iI think and the REAL meanings of things I type even though I tell you different LOL

Me - my favorite color is blue
you - no its not, you say it is but i can tell its red
me - no seriously its blue
you - you shouldnt like red because other colors are better
me - if you say so but i like blue
you - cant believe you hate blue so much and you love red
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keep them coming its funny
if you need clarification on something though try asking instead or ignoring or guessing wrong
 
I was seriously considering repeatedly voting "no" on this poll, just to balance out the people repeatedly voting "yes".

Then I realised it would be a complete waste of time.
 
The Mark said:
I was seriously considering repeatedly voting "no" on this poll, just to balance out the people repeatedly voting "yes".

Then I realised it would be a complete waste of time.
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Why don't the no people have to explain?
 
The Mark said:
I was seriously considering repeatedly voting "no" on this poll, just to balance out the people repeatedly voting "yes".

Then I realised it would be a complete waste of time.
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Yep, maybe next time CC swings by to destroy some more reasons he can post the real results again, last time I believe they were around 85% no and 15% yes

should have made the poll public and the sensitive trolls and spammers wouldnt have messed with it lol
 
winston53660 said:
Why don't the no people have to explain?
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dont know if they dont HAVE to but some of the many reasons for no were already given in the OP so why explain?

However if a no outside of the op has voted by all means they should add to the thread and they probably have since its this long. ;)
 
Centrist77 said:
LMAO ok lets beat a dead horse and add more egg on your face if there is room
WRONG again its not about my morals its about THE LAW some how you seem to forget this and leave it out, im guessing its because you couldn't argue against it if you saw what was actually going on instead of making stuff up. For the last time, read it slow, take a breath, my, morals, have, no, impact, on, this, debate.
Sorry
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Not according to the quote I posted.

Centrist77 said:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
wow this is like OSTRICH egg on your face, obviously you just dont get what that meant in the discussion at hand LOL
instead you desperately try to mold it to what you want it to mean, but, it only makes you more wrong LOL, i seriously laughed out loud for real on that, thanks, if anything you are seriously entertaining
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I challenge anyone to make any sense out of this paragraph or how it has anything to do with my initial response.

Centrist77 said:
this has been shot full of holds about 1000 times by many posters
if you are implying you simply have the right to vote your conscious like i said dearlier that is fine and your right nobody is arguing that strawman, of course you dont have to support it
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Centrist77 said:
sorry again YOUR morals based on YOUR religion, no good, clashes with to many other FREEDOMS of RELIGION. theres religions out there for no sex until married, no eating of certain foods, hell the bibles basically says kids who back talk and scorn their parents should be tarred fathered and or killed people dont practice that
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I don’t know, it sounds like you argued exactly that.

Centrist77 said:
what you have to understand is if you go out and vote against it by doing so, the end result wouldnt be discrimination so thats why this is easily debunked as not a good reason.
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Not really but again you can think what you like.

Centrist77 said:
FAIL, like i knew you would

Ill be waiting for these many more! lol
(hint) come up with something NEW because anything in this thread has alrady be debunked ;)
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Yes your reasoning has already been debunked.

The sad part is this whole post you made was nothing more than a rant with no substance and made almost no snese.
 
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