What does my comment have to do with bad parenting? Nothing. It is a ridicules fallacy argument that has nothing at all to do with what I said.
That is where the context of this discussion began...
The only joke here is you trying to compare an abusive parent to a non-abusive one.
Please either debate or do something else.
I am debating, who in the world would arrive at the conclusion that I am not debating... talk about a joke. I might not be debating the point that you are, and that itself is debatable, but I most certainly am debating. Do we really need to go back to Debating 101 and teach you the basics? Catch up...
Please point out where I said gay and lesbian couples can't be good parents? Please point this out?
I said a child is better off with a mother and a father.
It is the context of where the discussion began.
Originally Posted by digsbe
Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.
Originally Posted by Cilogy
Who says? Does Christianity say this too? That's mostly opinion.
Originally Posted by Blackdog
No. It's a fact children do better with a mother and a father.
Originally Posted by BodhiSattva
What a load of junk. Children do best with care givers/parents that love them and set up a structured and nurturing environment. Don't try and pain the mom dad life as rosey. Abusive ****bag parents of any sex or orientation suck and I would say that the majority of these ****bags are heterosexual mom/dad run families...
I was talking to digsbe and you came in with a tangent in-context comment to Cilogy. Digsbe is indicating that same sex parents can't do the job of different sex parents. This is clear, since he says it with the word deserve, indicating that same sex parents cannot be as good as heterosexual parents. You then trotted in with a comment that you want to be benign and matter of fact, well, it isn't. Your comment, since you do not quantify a new context, is taken in the same context as the orignial discussion.
Look, this is pretty simply stuff man. You can try and be as coy or clever as you like, all it is is dodging.
I also support gay couples adopting. If you were not so busy ranting and making personal attacks you mite have seen that.
Classify what I am saying as ranting if it helps you feel better, all I am doing is talking/writing/debating as you are.
Perhaps you can display whatever personal attack you think that I made so that I can better understand how to not do it again, because from where I stand, I did nothing of the sort. If I am being disrespectful, then it is no more than you are... calling my style a joke and telling me to debate twice when I am debating is not polite. *shrugs* But then to claim that I am making personal attacks on top of that? Well, that is just dang silly and makes it a even harder to take you seriously.
If you want to just make a comment that all things being equal, a child is best off with a loving and caring mother and father that promote balance and all that, then I agree... but taken in the context of the original it certainly sounds as if you are implying that same sex parents are not as good/qualified as heterosexual parents are, and that is all that I said in my retort to you anyway. Why you did not just agree and/or clarify is beyond me. Beyond reason in fact.
If this is how you, "debate" then that is fine. It is kinda basic, but that is just how it goes...
Now, that was a slight, but I would not qualify it as an "attack" unless you are paranoid delusional or something...
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