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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

  • No

    Votes: 99 79.2%

  • Yes, explain

    Votes: 26 20.8%
  • Total voters
    125
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Blackdog said:
1.)I am not discriminating. Anyone can marry anyone else within the law. You can't marry a relative, you can't marry more than one. I see this as no different.



2You are correct, I am sorry. You were not pro gay marriage before you were pro gay marriage. :roll:



3.) And everyone should not be able to do what they want. We would have no laws if we could.



This is not about equal rights. Never has been. It is about legitimizing an immoral life style.
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1. yes you are and thats a fact

2. translation you have NO answer because its not about pro gay its about anti discrimination LMAO next

3.) wow what are you 12? i thought you said you only had 30, 30 years again we are talking about the topic at hand i wont let you change it, you said i have a side and MY view on this matter is bigoted yet you have no proof because there is none LMAO so you try to imply my view is we should have no laws, wrong again sir LOL

4.) it is 100% about equal rights, equal right you want to selfishly deny
 
Centrist77 said:
1.) your right you point is totally irrelevant and so was your fallacy about the definition of marriage :)
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Only in your mind. It has everything to do with my argument from the beginning.

Centrist77 said:
2.) yep "could" be and what a proud day that will be, more discrimination wiped out
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Until you can see into the future, who knows. With the majority of states passing anti-gay marriage laws, could be a long wait.

Centrist77 said:
3.) owe, i missed him say that, what revolution was he talking about? lol
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I figure the gay revolution? Which brings a pretty funny picture to mind.

Centrist77 said:
4.) again pleas try to stay on topic, straying wont help you cause ill just expose it. I will never tell you you simply dont have the right to vote, of course you do and no matter how bigoted or discriminative your vote is, its your right. Im asking a personally question on what makes you think you have the right to tell two consenting adults who they can marry in america, that sir is none of you business and if you think it is, fine, just admit you are an oppressor and being discriminative. ;)
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Because I have the right to do so. My vote is that right. Again it is how our system works and it has everything to do with the argument.

You tried to tell me earlier I did not or it was wrong for me to vote against it. So now you are saying it is not part of it? :spin:
 
Blackdog said:
This is not about equal rights. Never has been. It is about legitimizing an immoral life style.
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also on this silly note there are 1000s of things that arent law according to your religion does that mean you now find them legitimate

the answer is: NOPE lol
so why would this be about that?

again the answer is: its not
its about equal rights :)
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
It is favorable to religious sects that are against gay marriage. It is turning their beliefs into law.
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Possibly. I don't think it will happen but again you never know.

DrunkenAsparagus said:
Ancient Greece had Gay couples form strong life long bonds that were marriage in everything but name. Even then, this isn't that important to begin with. You still haven't addressed why it's the your's or the government's business to interfere where no one is getting harmed. I don't care if you find it immoral Blackdog. It's none of your concern.
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It is my concern. Anything that can affect the society I live in is my concern.

Funny how I consider it a responsibility. Probably all that Army training.
 
Centrist77 said:
also on this silly note there are 1000s of things that arent law according to your religion does that mean you now find them legitimate
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This is true, and Christians are fighting against this as well.

Pornagraphy
Prostitution

To name a couple.

1000's? Not even close.

Centrist77 said:
the answer is: NOPE lol
so why would this be about that?

again the answer is: its not
its about equal rights :)
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I don't support those things either. It's about legitimizing an immoral life style.
 
Blackdog said:
1.)Only in your mind. It has everything to do with my argument from the beginning.



Until you can see into the future, who knows. With the majority of states passing anti-gay marriage laws, could be a long wait.



I figure the gay revolution? Which brings a pretty funny picture to mind.



2.) Because I have the right to do so. My vote is that right. Again it is how our system works and it has everything to do with the argument.

You tried to tell me earlier I did not or it was wrong for me to vote against it. So now you are saying it is not part of it? :spin:
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1.) in my mind and reality it is MEANINGLESS to the argument, absolutely meaningless an has been proven

2.) 100% LIE in this thread i have made it very clear that im not attacking the right to simple vote on a subject but how you justify it personal based on america and it being discriminative and for the people that may be slow i just explained it again directly too you since you have a history of telling people what they said/meant and being wrong :D

nice try but again the proof is in this thread and all those reading know LMAO
 
Blackdog said:
I hope you are not trying to imply I did? I voted one time.

I may be an ass, but I don't lie and I am honest all around.
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did I say you? lol why you defensive
your not honest you have lied 3 times in this very thread or you made very dumb assumptions and are just afraid to admit it :)

pick one
 
Blackdog said:
Possibly. I don't think it will happen but again you never know.
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It already is happening. The main justification that you and many others is religiously based.

Blackdog said:
It is my concern. Anything that can affect the society I live in is my concern.

Funny how I consider it a responsibility. Probably all that Army training.
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Your other posts don't indicate that this gives you the right to control the behavior of others. Even then, how would gay marriage negatively affect you or society?
 
Blackdog said:
This is true, and Christians are fighting against this as well.

Pornagraphy
Prostitution

To name a couple.

1000's? Not even close.



I don't support those things either. It's about legitimizing an immoral life style.
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didnt say you support it and you have the right not to

now answer the question, did the law legitimize all the stuff for you and your religion

ill wait but the answer is already NO, you wont answer because it throws your argument out, eventhogh it had no real barring anyway
 
Centrist77 said:
1.) in my mind and reality it is MEANINGLESS to the argument, absolutely meaningless an has been proven
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Keep telling yourself that and you mite believe it.

Centrist77 said:
2.) 100% LIE in this thread i have made it very clear that im not attacking the right to simple vote on a subject but how you justify it personal based on america and it being discriminative and for the people that may be slow i just explained it again directly too you since you have a history of telling people what they said/meant and being wrong :D
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"Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american

not asking for your "support" asking you if you would stop it and if the answer is yes YOU ARE forcing it, if the answer is no all is well. Dont care what you believe or think that is your right i agree you just have no buisness stopping it, thats the part i said isnt american but nice try

im not arguing against you right to just vote (legally) im asking if you would thnk its right not vote against it personally. You think you have the right to oppress others and THEIR religion based on your OWN religio - Centrist77

Keep denying it.

Centrist77 said:
nice try but again the proof is in this thread and all those reading know LMAO
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Yes, it is.
 
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Blackdog said:
1.)Keep telling yourself that and you mite believe it.



2.)"Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american

not asking for your "support" asking you if you would stop it and if the answer is yes YOU ARE forcing it, if the answer is no all is well. Dont care what you believe or think that is your right i agree you just have no buisness stopping it, thats the part i said isnt american but nice try

im not arguing against you right to just vote (legally) im asking if you would thnk its right not vote against it personally. You think you have the right to oppress others and THEIR religion based on your OWN religio - Centrist77

Keep denying it.



3.)Yes, it is.
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1.) i already believe it and even if i didnt its fact so it doesnt matter :)

2.)??????????????????? ahhh where in there did i saw you dont have the right to vote? Its becoming more and more clear with the assumptions you keep making you have comprehension issues, wow to funny. Its not your fault though, you cant know what you dont know

yep, the quote further proves i never attacked you simple right to vote, thanks again LMAO
 
Blackdog said:
1.)It made sinners, sin even more. So it did for some people eyes. It was overall a bad thing.



2.)OK. :lol:
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1 this is not an answer you are dodging the question, i asked YOU did it legitimize it for YOU and your religion. What id did for other people doesnt matter. ANSWER THE QUESTION lol

2 see i knew you didnt have the stones to answer cause it exposes you even further but thats ok, that has already been done
 
Centrist77 said:
1 this is not an answer you are dodging the question, i asked YOU did it legitimize it for YOU and your religion. What id did for other people doesnt matter. ANSWER THE QUESTION lol
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I did answer it, yes it did for many Christians.

Centrist77 said:
2 see i knew you didnt have the stones to answer cause it exposes you even further but thats ok, that has already been done
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I did answer it, I miss typed yes and it came out "eye."

The only thing it exposed here is that you have a problem.
 
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Centrist77 said:
1.) i already believe it and even if i didnt its fact so it doesnt matter :)
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OK

Centrist77 said:
2.)??????????????????? ahhh where in there did i saw you dont have the right to vote? Its becoming more and more clear with the assumptions you keep making you have comprehension issues, wow to funny. Its not your fault though, you cant know what you dont know
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Here was my comment...

" You tried to tell me earlier I did not or it was wrong for me to vote against it. So now you are saying it is not part of it? - Blackdog

"Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american" - Centrist77

"Dont care what you believe or think that is your right i agree you just have no buisness stopping it, thats the part i said isnt american but nice try" - Centrist77

"im not arguing against you right to just vote (legally) im asking if you would thnk its right not vote against it personally. You think you have the right to oppress others and THEIR religion based on your OWN religio - Centrist77

Did you notice the word "or" in my sentence? I was saying it was one OR the other. So no you are wrong and again it is a part of the equation.

Centrist77 said:
yep, the quote further proves i never attacked you simple right to vote, thanks again LMAO
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Go ahead and try it again. I never said anything of the sort.
 
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Blackdog said:
Centrist77 said:
1 this is not an answer you are dodging the question, i asked YOU did it legitimize it for YOU and your religion. What id did for other people doesnt matter. ANSWER THE QUESTION lol{/quote]

I did answer it, yes it did for many Christians.



I did answer it, I miss typed yes and it came out "eye."

The only thing it exposed here is that you have a problem.
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you totally dodged it by answering indirectly and playing coy


do you NOW accept those things and do you think they are legitimate?

it did for many chrsitians ? lol how did it do that?
what did the other christians do? did they stop believing what they were taught so they accept it now and think its legit?

did it force your religion to accept it? and believe it to be legit?


wow what fantasy il be waiting for your answers unless you dodge gain

only problem i have is with discrimination and people think their views are better than all others should be forced on others no matter if its unfair, unequal, and discriminates :D
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Blackdog said:
OK



Here was my comment...

" You tried to tell me earlier I did not or it was wrong for me to vote against it. So now you are saying it is not part of it? - Blackdog

"Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american" - Centrist77

"Dont care what you believe or think that is your right i agree you just have no buisness stopping it, thats the part i said isnt american but nice try" - Centrist77

"im not arguing against you right to just vote (legally) im asking if you would thnk its right not vote against it personally. You think you have the right to oppress others and THEIR religion based on your OWN religio - Centrist77



Go ahead and try it again. I never said anything of the sort.
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LMAO ok its confirmed you have comprehension issues, thanks
 
centrist77 said:
lmao ok its confirmed you have comprehension issues, thanks
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ok

"You tried to tell me earlier I did not or it was wrong for me to vote against it"

Notice the word "or"

You are funny.
 
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Centrist77 said:
you totally dodged it by answering indirectly and playing coy
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What? I said yes and told you why.

Centrist77 said:
do you NOW accept those things and do you think they are legitimate?
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OK you don't have to except my answer. :2wave:

Centrist77 said:
it did for many chrsitians ? lol how did it do that?
what did the other christians do? did they stop believing what they were taught so they accept it now and think its legit?
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Yes in many cases.

Centrist77 said:
did it force your religion to accept it? and believe it to be legit?
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Yes in many cases.

Centrist77 said:
wow what fantasy il be waiting for your answers unless you dodge gain

only problem i have is with discrimination and people think their views are better than all others should be forced on others no matter if its unfair, unequal, and discriminates :D
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I don't really care what you think as far as that goes.
 
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LMAO hahahahahahahahahah ok now i cant wait black dog
please expalin your answers

Did those things being legal:

make and force you to accept them? you said "yes in many cases"
make and force you to think they are legitimate? you said "yes in many cases"

make and force your religion to accept them? you said "yes in many cases"
make and force your religion to think they are legitimate? you said "yes in many cases"

cant wait to hear these BS answers on how and why, my guess is they didnt in reality only in fantasy land

also by saying yes to the religion question you do realize if you were right, your not that would be a violation of the constitution but its not so it doesnt matter anyway :)
 
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Blackdog said:
I don't really care what you think as far as that goes.
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I know, nor do you care what ANYBODY thinks if its not the same as you, we got that its obvious :) thats why you are discriminative
 
Centrist77 said:
LMAO hahahahahahahahahah ok now i cant wait black dog
please expalin your answers

Did those things being legal:

make and force you to accept them? you said "yes in many cases"
make and force you to think they are legitimate? you said "yes in many cases"

make and force your religion to accept them? you said "yes in many cases"
make and force your religion to think they are legitimate? you said "yes in many cases"

cant wait to hear these BS answers on how and why, my guess is they didnt in reality only in fantasy land
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Well since you think they are BS before I even type them, what would be the point? Since you think it is all BS, why should I even put in the effort?

You are not debating anything, you are to busy ridiculing and saying I am not justified because you disagree.

I have been honest and forthcoming while you are busy insulting and lying about your position as I demonstrated.

You are not worth the effort.
 
Centrist77 said:
I know, nor do you care what ANYBODY thinks if its not the same as you, we got that its obvious :) thats why you are discriminative
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Another lie.

You don't know me well enough to make that statement. In fact you know very little about me at all. Yet you are willing to make a huge insulting generalization.

I may not know anything about you, but I know enough to judge your character.
 
Blackdog said:
Well since you think they are BS before I even type them, what would be the point? Since you think it is all BS, why should I even put in the effort?

You are not debating anything, you are to busy ridiculing and saying I am not justified because you disagree.

I have been honest and forthcoming while you are busy insulting and lying about your position as I demonstrated.

You are not worth the effort.
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well according to you, in any debate you are supposed to convince me right? so convince away

it not about agreeing and disagreeing, told you a million times that part is fine, i ridicul you because you want to discriminate, not because you simply disagree, wrong again with your assumptions

sorry dude i have also been honest 100% and i havent lied one time LMAO

this is just another desperate tactic by you because you know in reality you wont be able to defend your answers and you and your religion are in fact NOT forced to do anything with what you mentioned
 
Blackdog said:
Another lie.

You don't know me well enough to make that statement. In fact you know very little about me at all. Yet you are willing to make a huge insulting generalization.

I may not know anything about you, but I know enough to judge your character.
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not a lie, from the proof in this thread its a safe and reasonable theory

yep, my character is about fairness and not discriminating whether i agree with it or not :)
yours on the other hand seems to be quite the opposite
 
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