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Reagan vs. Obama

Greater Cult of Personality: Ronald Reagan or Barack Obama?


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Pardon my neanderthal mind, was he being sarcastic?

No. He doesn't understand how hyperbole works. Obama made a hyperbolic statement regarding his persuasiveness. Our new resident connoisseur of religious statements takes it to mean that Obama thinks he's an angelic being.
 
When was this? :confused:

Never. It's Hatuey's version of events.

Ah, so you think Obama was talking about himself being a heavenly being? And because he was clearly using hyperbole regarding how persuasive he must think he is?

So you agree, but now it is merely the use of hyperbole? You can't say that "no, that's not what Obama was saying," and say "yes, it was what Obama was saying but it was hyperbole."

You're getting a little sketchy now. Are you sure you don't want to take a break and think up a cleverer story? It's getting a tad embarrassing.



If you knew how to read and actually understood what is being said you would see there is no vagueness in my use of the word 'People'. You spoke of people who read the Bible.

Right, "people" is one of the most definite words out there. Right next to "them" and "they" and "the RIGHT WANG CONSPARACY!!!"

Show us all proof? Your simpleton interpretation of clear hyperbole is not sufficient.

I'm going to type so charismatically, that a light will freeze your computer and give you an realization that I am, well, right about everything.

I have thrown myself into a new world—one in which fluffy chatter and frivolous praise are replaced by a get-to-the-point directness and disciple-like devotion. - Elle associate publisher Samantha Fennell

"When that happens, it will change everything. ... You'll have to measure time
by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,'" - Spike Lee

Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway. - Mark Mortford

With all of this, just to scratch the surface, praise. Obama has decided to, what, start using hyperbole comparing himself to a divine influence just so he won't be compared to the Messiah? I'm not sure you have any logical sense at this point.
 
Never. It's Hatuey's version of events.

Somebody doesn't remember what they said.

So you agree, but now it is merely the use of hyperbole? You can't say that "no, that's not what Obama was saying," and say "yes, it was what Obama was saying but it was hyperbole."

You're getting a little sketchy now. Are you sure you don't want to take a break and think up a cleverer story? It's getting a tad embarrassing.

Do you understand how literary devices like hyperbole work? Let's say that by some Pauly Shore-ian miracle, you managed to find a human being who would consider letting you pay them to have sex with you. As you climbed unto the beast (hyperbole #1, not an actual beast - a hyperbolic description of the person) you loudly yelled: 'I'm king of the world!' - You do not actually think, because you do not think, you're king of the world but the statement is made to incite emotion out of your dead partner's cadaver(hyperbole #2 - you would not actually sleep with a dead person but as I am trying to demonstrate how the word hyperbole can be used - it was the only object I could think of as having the constitution to carry out the act).

Right, "people" is one of the most definite words out there. Right next to "them" and "they" and "the RIGHT WANG CONSPARACY!!!"

Hyperbolic statement #1 by you! Hey you're getting good at this.

I'm going to type so charismatically, that a light will freeze your computer and give you an realization that I am, well, right about everything.

You're getting good at making hyperbolic statements. #2. I'm glad you're getting the hang of this. Exaggeration can really help when writing. Hemingway was great at it. Poe was a true master.

I have thrown myself into a new world—one in which fluffy chatter and frivolous praise are replaced by a get-to-the-point directness and disciple-like devotion. - Elle associate publisher Samantha Fennell

"When that happens, it will change everything. ... You'll have to measure time
by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,'" - Spike Lee

Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway. - Mark Mortford

With all of this, just to scratch the surface, praise. Obama has decided to, what, start using hyperbole comparing himself to a divine influence just so he won't be compared to the Messiah? I'm not sure you have any logical sense at this point.

Good gosh, I do not know what to say. You seem to be under the impression that you can prove points by throwing up(hyperbolic statement #3 - you're not actually going to throw up) as many random quotes as you possibly can without any sort of context. I do not know how they teach you slightly delayed 8th graders* the ways of the English language but people who do not read Elle Magazine or follow Spike Lee's career as a commentator - do not play into fallacies.

Here is your homework for the weekend:

1. Read a book called 'A Hundred Years of Solitude'(no, it is not your future autobiography - it is a book by renown writer Gael Garcia Marquez. It is filled with hyperbole. You should keep in mind that not everyone in Latin American villages has the same last name.

2. Write a 4 page essay explaining how the hyperbolic statements in the book enhance the desired effect behind the general story.

3. Finally, present your findings to our panel of literary scholars. 1069, Jallman and donsutherland1 will hand you a final grade which I will write a final comment on.

* That may or may not be the 4th hyperbolic comment on this post - I do not know what grade you're in - I do know you're slightly delayed though - Your inability to comprehend simple terms like hyperbole tell me so.
 
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Somebody doesn't remember what they said.

Sorry, too vague.

Do you understand how literary devices like hyperbole work? Let's say that by some Pauly Shore-ian miracle, you managed to find a human being who would consider letting you pay them to have sex with you. As you climbed on to the beast

Oh, come on. Your mom isn't that bad. But, I see your point. Hyperbole. Your mom is fairly ugly, but she isn't a beast. With you so far.

I'm nothing compared to that God OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

YES WE CAN YES WE CAN

Ooops, sort of got carried away. Didn't I?



They teach me (in 8th grade) that it is bad to argue with deranged Obamaniacs because they get very bitey and even enraged that their fanatical devotion is being called fanatical devotion. But it is so cute when their little minds (and when I say "their," I mean you, but your mom told me it was mean to insult her asexual offspring [you] so I'm saying "their") get worked up. I really can't help myself.

Some people have a vice. I have two. You, being the intellectual light in the Obama camp (which isn't saying much, considering you really are a 'bright' light in comparison) that you are could likely put what they are.

1. Read a book called 'A Hundred Years of Solitude'(no, it is not your future autobiography

Of course it isn't my future autobiography! I would never steal your favorite work. Its title has struck a chord within you.

2. Write 4 page essay on it explaining how the hyperbolic statements in the book enhance the desired effect behind the general story.

Why would I write an essay when you can't read?

3. Finally, present your findings to our panel of literary scholars. 1069, Jallman and donsutherland1 will hand you a final grade which I will write a final comment on.
It wouldn't be fair for me. Why? Because you are intellectually below a sea slug. And I apologize to the sea-slug.

I do not know what grade you're in

I would tell you, but you haven't mastered numbers on both hands yet.
 
Did this thread make you change to "very conservative"?
 
Sorry, too vague.

Well I guess I should take your interpretation into consideration. But then again your track record with comprehension is quite bad so far.

Oh, come on. Your mom isn't that bad. But, I see your point. Hyperbole. Your mom is fairly ugly, but she isn't a beast. With you so far.

I'm nothing compared to that God OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

YES WE CAN YES WE CAN

Ooops, sort of got carried away. Didn't I?

Second piece of evidence suggesting that you are an 8th grader. When faced with an intellectually superior adversary you revert to your shell of weak insults. 'Your mom'. What is a mother? Well I guess on a hyperbolic level, a mother is a beast. Beasts fight for their offspring, are considered to be larger than average - and a child would see their parents as larger but I'm going off talking about hyperbole again - silly me - being able to comprehend words in sentences in paragraphs.

They teach me (in 8th grade) that it is bad to argue with deranged Obamaniacs because they get very bitey and even enraged that their fanatical devotion is being called fanatical devotion. But it is so cute when their little minds (and when I say "their," I mean you, but your mom told me it was mean to insult her asexual offspring [you] so I'm saying "their") get worked up. I really can't help myself.

Some people have a vice. I have two. You, being the intellectual light in the Obama camp (which isn't saying much, considering you really are a 'bright' light in comparison) that you are could likely put what they are.

Hyperbole #3! You've called me an Obamaniac! Now you've entered the realm of weak rhetoric! Phased with the fact that you can not support your own statement with anything more than Elle Magazine quotes you read while on your period - you revert to politically weak insults. Oh no! You've insulted my mom and now you've called me an Obamaniac! What next? Are you going to try a slightly older version of I know you are but what am I?(We'll see that bellow.) I bet you are.

Of course it isn't my future autobiography! I would never steal your favorite work. Its title has struck a chord within you.

Oh my, quite predictable. I guess people like you - who are relegated to reading titles ending with 'for dummies' would see this as an insult. A book with more words than you've ever seen would strike a cord with others? How insulting! What next? You'll tell everyone that I'm dumb?

Why would I write an essay when you can't read?

Hyperbolic statement #4. SOLID! I am truly the Nostradamus of my time(Hyperbolic statement - take note). This is why I stated that it would be reviewed by Jallman, 1069 and donsutherland1 sweetheart - it is so you can get the impression that you've actually provided worth reading.

It wouldn't be fair for me. Why? Because you are intellectually below a sea slug. And I apologize to the sea-slug.

#5!

I would tell you, but you haven't mastered numbers on both hands yet.

#6!

How glad am I that you've finally gotten to understand how hyperbolic statements work. Not only that but you now know how to use them yourself! What shall we tackle next? Similes? I think we should attempt to explain to you who John Milton was? The very fact that you do not understand how hyperbole works is an insult to his work yet take your name after it. The effect of hyperbole was intensified by the invention of print - such a shame you do not have the necessary connections between your brain cells to understand it. I guess I should just get down to your level and making lame insults at your mom.
 
Did this thread make you change to "very conservative"?

I'm just trying to adapt my views to this board. Personally, I identify myself as a centrist. Social issues go either way (Conservative: Guns, Abortion, Affirmative Action; Liberal: Homosexuals, Drugs, Crime), fiscally conservative, believe the war in Afghanistan is needed, not in Iraq. I generally hate politicians, large corporations. But, clearly, if "Liberal" means what Hatuey is; then, if by no other standard, I must be somewhere beyond the horizon (to the right, of course).

It's pretty much a concluded thing that Obama is an arrogant prick (like 99.999% of every other politician, ever) who thinks he has some heavenly calling to right wrongs (think Jesse Jackson before becoming Democrat, or Hillary Clinton before she left Arkansas). Sure, it's a tad debatable if he really thinks he's literally holy. But to say that everyone that supports him believes he is a regular Joe Simpson? To say that Obama is a modest mouse who sometimes uses hyperbole? Please. I admit that not all, or even most, of his supporters believe he is some meta-man (or homo novus, heh). But there is a vocal (very vocal) minority who believe, at the very least, he is on something approaching an heavenly (even if couched in secular terms) quest. To say that they don't exist? And to say the Obama doesn't believe it, on some level?

Heh. Spare me.
 
Oh, right, a light from the sky is just... What? An airplane? A helicopter? Maybe the police? Sorry, but what do you think of when someone talks of lights from the sky? UFO's?


Or, sunlight. ;)
 
Oh, don't act hurt. You know insult matches are a race to the bottom. Just because I was already there, doesn't make your mom jokes any less funny.

But, seriously. ;) Enough is enough.

I accept your surrender. :2wave:
 
True! I know everytime I see the sun, I want to vote for Obama. You know, he keeps it coming up every morning.

Good for you! I've always seen him as simply a lesser evil then the other guy!
 
You guys got waaaaaay off track with this one.

Folks, you have to remember that politicians have and WILL use religion to evoke the emotions of their constituency all the time. They do it because they know one's faith is the root of how (most) people believe. One's spiritual believes are often times closely connected to how one votes. It is hyperbole whether you believe it or not, whether the candidate truly believes what he's saying or not. His/her words still evoke emotion which is exactly their intent.
 
Reagan was a liberal hollywood actor playing the part of a "conservative" president. Obama is real.

A real what? Obama is a Chicago lawyer turned Chicago politician. If you trust him, you're a fool.
 
Reagan had a personality, so he wins, hands down.

Reagan today has more of a personality than the Messiah.
 
I don't like the Obama cult either. He is just a politician after all and he is part of the political elite.

But I still think the Reagan cult is more far out. It has been ages since he left office and right-wingers still go on and on about how fantastic he was, saving the world and all.

The Obama cult was pretty intense for as long as it lasted but it has lost its steam now. When Obama showed up and got elected people were relieved about the eight year hostage crisis that was the Bush administration ending. The hope for real reforms and a better system was chanelled into the Obama cult but now people has been disappointed about him just being another politician who hasn't ended the war, has not provided a reasonable health care reform and has not turned the economy into something better. I think the Obama cult is already over now.

But the cultist adoration of the terrorist-supporting Reagan seems to have no end.

Why do we have this need for superheroes to solve our problems? It seems like we need an Obama to defeat Bush as much as we need a Batman to defeat the Joker. Wouldn't it be better if people realised that their situation will not be improved by some political Superman and that they have themselves to rise up in order to turn things around?
 
I far as tell, this "poll" is really not much more than an opportunity for opposing views to take potshots replete with made up talking points at each other.

Thanks, but no thanks. Neither of the two was or is anything beyond mortal and I've yet to meet the person that actually thinks otherwise.
 
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maybe the comparison should be reagan versus dubya
when it comes to lying about threats to spend taxpayer dollars on useless military programs:
In its efforts to keep Congress funding huge military budgets in the 1980s, the Reagan administration exaggerated the threat from the Soviet Union's military projects, newly published documents show. ...
Reagan admin ‘hyped Soviet failures into threats,’ documents show | Raw Story

appears ronnie raygun lied about the soviet union military capability in the same way dubya bin lyin lied about the iraqi threat
 
Reagan was a liberal hollywood actor playing the part of a "conservative" president. Obama is real.
You haven't the slightest iota of a clue about what you speak. I mean there isn't a molecule of truth in your brain about Ronald Reagan.
 
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