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When should a dog be on a leash?

When should a dog be on a leash?

  • At all times while outside his own property, except in a leash free dog park

    Votes: 22 40.0%

  • The dog should be either very well trained or on a leash

    Votes: 4 7.3%

  • It depends on the dog and the locality

    Votes: 20 36.4%

  • Dogs are happiest when they roam free!

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • I hate dogs, they're noisy, annoying, useless creatures

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • I hate leash Nazis, they are rigid, control freaks

    Votes: 4 7.3%

  • Other, please explain

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Total voters
    55
Laila said:
Wow. Just wow.

And I thought I had a dislike for dogs.
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That's me.... I hate all animals. I hate them so much I have 4 cats and a Chocolate Lab that I rescued from the animal shelter 2 days before she would have been destroyed.

I hate cats so much that 2 of mine were rescued as 4 month old kittens that had been deserted and were starving. One of them I hated so much I spent $800 to save her when she got Parvo.

I hate these animals so much that I don't want the cats eaten by the pack of dogs that run loose in my neighborhood at night, so I keep them in. I hate my dog so much that I don't want her bitten by the dogs off their leash when I'm walking her at the lake.

Yup, I really hate animals. :roll:
 
Crunch said:
That's me.... I hate all animals. I hate them so much I have 4 cats and a Chocolate Lab that I rescued from the animal shelter 2 days before she would have been destroyed.

I hate cats so much that 2 of mine were rescued as 4 month old kittens that had been deserted and were starving. One of them I hated so much I spent $800 to save her when she got Parvo.

I hate these animals so much that I don't want the cats eaten by the pack of dogs that run loose in my neighborhood at night, so I keep them in. I hate my dog so much that I don't want her bitten by the dogs off their leash when I'm walking her at the lake.

Yup, I really hate animals. :roll:
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I love animals. Preferably grilled or BBQed.
 
Tucker Case said:
If it was chained up, the fight or flight instinct is limited to a single option... and it isn't flight.

The story you shared is a terrible thing, and I hope th egirl comes through as well as possible, but there's no such thing as a proper reaction with a dog.
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You assume a lot here....
We have a dog trainer in the family...she usually has 2 of her own that are trained for search and rescue.
Regular Dogs don't have the kind of intellect you are suggesting, so they don't choose to attack. They have to be trained to attack.
Untrained dogs do have instinct, and if that instinct is to attack a human, it needs to be put down. Likewise the owners who think it is cool to have a viscious dog around...
If one of my neighbors had such a dog, I would feed it, once.....after dark.....
 
UtahBill said:
You assume a lot here....
We have a dog trainer in the family...she usually has 2 of her own that are trained for search and rescue.
Regular Dogs don't have the kind of intellect you are suggesting, so they don't choose to attack. They have to be trained to attack.
Untrained dogs do have instinct, and if that instinct is to attack a human, it needs to be put down. Likewise the owners who think it is cool to have a viscious dog around...
If one of my neighbors had such a dog, I would feed it, once.....after dark.....
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What I'm talking about has nothing at all to do with intellect. It has everything to do with instinct. I don't care how well-trained or even tempered a dog is, if you chain it up, you take away it's ability to flee from a threat. If it is then threatened, it will attack the threat. Every time. Fight or flight is an instinct. A good dog will seek flight first, but if it cannot take flight, it will fight.

Any dog can become vicious when cornered by a threat. If the kid was throwing rocks at the dog, and it couldn't scape, it won't need to think about it. Instinct will take over. It's the fact that the dog doesn't have intelligence that makes it attack, not the reverse. If it was intelligent, it would recognize that a five year old isn't really a threat, even if it was throwing rocks.

And even humans have this instinct. Test it some time. Go out and threaten someone with physical violence. You'll see fight or flight in action. Now if the person chooses flight, back them into a corner, thus removing the flight option. Then get prepared to duck.

There's no thought to it at all. A dumb person will react in basically the same way as a smart one.

An even better experiment is to take a well-trained dog and back it into a corner an start kicking it in the face. I don't care how well-trained it is, you are going to get bit.
 
Kelzie said:
And what, pray tell, would an example of a liberal animal be?
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One that is not bought and gets free vet service? HAHA! :2razz:
 
Kali said:
One that is not bought and gets free vet service? HAHA! :2razz:
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One that thinks crapping on the neighbor's lawn is just 'free expression'?
 
MyOwnDrum said:
One that thinks crapping on the neighbor's lawn is just 'free expression'?
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If a small dog? One that thinks they should be carried around in handbags with a diamond collar but never having to do any tricks? :2razz:
 
Other: The first 4, in some combination:
At all times while outside his own property, except in a leash free dog park
The dog should be either very well trained or on a leash
It depends on the dog and the locality
Dogs are happiest when they roam free!
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Depending on:
  • The level of training that both dog and owner have.
  • The location that the dog is off a leash.
  • The dog and owner in question.
 
Depends on the breed some dogs need to go for a run everyday rather than a walk.
 
When will you stop making threads which have nothing to do with politics?
 
When should a dog be on a leash? When his owner is a conservative!
 
Hatuey said:
When will you stop making threads which have nothing to do with politics?
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I'm curious why you feel like polls should always have to be about politics?
 
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My dog doesn't have a leash. It's not necessary. I live here...

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...our nearest public road is 150m from my house and when we walk, we walk in the fields and on the sierra. She doesn't chase sheep, goats, horses or cows and, away from her territory, doesn't bark at anyone except another dog. She's never bitten anyone, ever. No need for leashes or leads. As one of the options says, it depends on the dog and the location.
 
Arch Enemy said:
When the dog and the owner share little common sense.

If the Dog is smarter than the human, which is normally the case, then the human should be leashed.
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What color is your leash? :lol:
 
The dog should be on a leash when it looks like this.

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or this.

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Ikari said:
Laila said:
-- it is illegal for the dog to be off the collar on a public street and can be fined up to a £1,000 for breaching dog control orders
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That's retarded right there. Completely excessive. A couple hundred bucks at most...at most. 1000 pounds? That's just stupid.
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The police use judgement before making such calls. If it's a first offence you get a warning. On the other side of the scale if you repeatedly allow a nuisance dog free and there have been complaints, you'll get the full fine.

The £1000 is not a one and only punishment for all dog related offences.

MyOwnDrum said:
That's the UK for you. How do you think they fund sting operations to pet shops to make sure they don't sell goldfish to minors?
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If you're going to quote Daily Mail stories or Republic of Public's threads- I advise you to read up on the whole story.

1) There is a law preventing the sale of animals to youngsters and children.

2)There is no law preventing kids looking after an animal (i.e. family pet).

3) The Manchester woman in the goldfish story had repeatedly sold animals to juveniles AFTER her first warning for selling a hamster to a mentally retarded 14 year old girl who drowned the hamster in a cafe in Manchester city centre.

4)The shop keeper continued to sell animals (despite warnings) to underage buyers and so the local trading standards office carried out the sting operation. Now tell me you still have a problem with the treatment of the shopkeeper....
 
bicycleman said:
The dog should be on a leash when it looks like this.

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or this.

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That bottom one is a Tibetan Mastiff, right? I'd love to have one of those.

FWIW, I like most dogs more than I like most people. In my humble opinion, dog attacks on humans are more the responsibility of the humans than the dogs, either the owner, or the victim, or both. We can control our actions a lot better than they, and most dogs I've been in contact with communicate their intentions pretty well before they bite. That's one of the big reasons I own dogs right now, is so that my daughter can learn to understand how to act towards a dog and how to understand what they are communicating.

I always feel bad when I hear that a dog has had to be put down for biting someone. Whether it was the owner who failed to keep the dog under control or the person that knowingly or unknowingly provoked the dog, somewhere along the line, a human failed that dog.

On a related note, I saw an article about this place a while back. I wish there were more places out there who did what this guy does. Dogs as a species wouldn't exist but for humans, so I believe we have an obligation to do what we can to look after them.

:soap
 
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Depends on the dog and location. A good ol' country dog has no reason to be tethered.

But in a city or in a close community, I'd have to go with number 1. When you're dog is on your property, do as you seem fit.

The minute the mutt comes on my property I want him leashed and you better have a poop-bag.

I love dogs though.
 
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