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When should a dog be on a leash?

When should a dog be on a leash?

  • At all times while outside his own property, except in a leash free dog park

    Votes: 22 40.0%

  • The dog should be either very well trained or on a leash

    Votes: 4 7.3%

  • It depends on the dog and the locality

    Votes: 20 36.4%

  • Dogs are happiest when they roam free!

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • I hate dogs, they're noisy, annoying, useless creatures

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • I hate leash Nazis, they are rigid, control freaks

    Votes: 4 7.3%

  • Other, please explain

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Total voters
    55
roguenuke said:
If I had a dog, I would have the dog on a leash whenever we went out. But I expect to live in fairly populated areas with well-driven roads nearby, not out in the middle of nowhere, at least that's what's most likely for the next 15 years or so. Now if we had a fenced in yard, I would certainly allow the dog free rein back there as long as he wasn't digging up the yard or trying to get out.
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I don't live in a big city, but it's a city none the less. Complete with paved roads and too many Wal-Marts. I don't get the who hoopla about making dogs be on leashes. Here lots of people run around with their dogs free roaming, it's really not a problem. I know people have visions of dog maulings left and right, but it doesn't happen. The most that happens is that a dog walks up to someone and the owner calls the dog back. Hell, people take their dogs to the bars with them at night. Well the dog doesn't typically get to go inside the bar, but it can hang out on the patio and such for sure. Sometimes they're leashed, sometimes they're not.
 
Ikari said:
That's retarded right there. Completely excessive. A couple hundred bucks at most...at most. 1000 pounds? That's just stupid.
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Meh, It is an effective threat.
Dogs are unpredictable and capable of doing damage.
 
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Where I live my Bank keeps dog biscuits for dogs. I brought them in yesterday, they were off the leash because I was on my bike. They know the drill, lay down, be good, get a cookie... :lol:
 
I always keep my girlfriend on a leash in bed:mrgreen:
 
Ikari said:
I don't live in a big city, but it's a city none the less. Complete with paved roads and too many Wal-Marts. I don't get the who hoopla about making dogs be on leashes. Here lots of people run around with their dogs free roaming, it's really not a problem. I know people have visions of dog maulings left and right, but it doesn't happen. The most that happens is that a dog walks up to someone and the owner calls the dog back. Hell, people take their dogs to the bars with them at night. Well the dog doesn't typically get to go inside the bar, but it can hang out on the patio and such for sure. Sometimes they're leashed, sometimes they're not.
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I would do it personally. I actually agree with your stance on it being the responsibility of the owner. I personally do not trust my ability to be able to keep a dog from running out into the street, especially since the dogs that my husband and I want would be a Rottweiler for him and/or some equally big dog for me. Neither of us care for small dogs. My main concern would be keeping the dog safe, then concern for controlling the dog if we happened to meet up with too many people, even if he/she was only trying to be friendly with the people.
 
Ikari said:
And the owner is 100% liable, yes. But that's that, the owner can take the chance with the dog and if the dog acts out or does something wrong then they owner is in trouble for it. If you have a well behaved dog, then being off the leash isn't going to be a problem. I don't have a huge problem with dogs off leashes, most dogs are pretty alright around humans anyway. If your dog listens to you and is behaved enough to not need a leash, then I don't see it proper place for the government to say you have to have one. Ultimately, make the owner responsible for everything and you can regulate it that way.
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#1. Why should I have to put up with your dog off a leash? Just because you know your dog is safe, do I? Does my leashed dog? My child that is walking with us?

#2. How nice of you to take responsibility for the death of my child after your dog kills him/her...... makes me feel so much better.

#3. Most States have a leash law. Dogs found off a leash in public in those States should be removed from their irresponsible owners custody and put up for adoption...... irresponsible owner should be shot, ok, jailed for harboring a dangerous nuisance.
 
Any time a dog is off the property of it's owner, it should be on a leash.

 
Crunch said:
#1. Why should I have to put up with your dog off a leash? Just because you know your dog is safe, do I? Does my leashed dog? My child that is walking with us?

#2. How nice of you to take responsibility for the death of my child after your dog kills him/her...... makes me feel so much better.

#3. Most States have a leash law. Dogs found off a leash in public in those States should be removed from their irresponsible owners custody and put up for adoption...... irresponsible owner should be shot, ok, jailed for harboring a dangerous nuisance.
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:roll::roll::roll:
 
Crunch said:
Just answer the first two questions...... number three is optional. :roll::roll::roll:
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You didn't pose any questions. Made some hysterical hypotheticals and that's about it.
 
Crunch said:
#1. Why should I have to put up with your dog off a leash? Just because you know your dog is safe, do I? Does my leashed dog? My child that is walking with us?

#2. How nice of you to take responsibility for the death of my child after your dog kills him/her...... makes me feel so much better.

#3. Most States have a leash law. Dogs found off a leash in public in those States should be removed from their irresponsible owners custody and put up for adoption...... irresponsible owner should be shot, ok, jailed for harboring a dangerous nuisance.
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Wow. Just wow.

And I thought I had a dislike for dogs.
 
Crunch said:
#1. Why should I have to put up with your dog off a leash? Just because you know your dog is safe, do I? Does my leashed dog? My child that is walking with us?

#2. How nice of you to take responsibility for the death of my child after your dog kills him/her...... makes me feel so much better.

#3. Most States have a leash law. Dogs found off a leash in public in those States should be removed from their irresponsible owners custody and put up for adoption...... irresponsible owner should be shot, ok, jailed for harboring a dangerous nuisance.
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I carry guns in public too...things could be used to kill; but still got them. Still carry them in public, still sell them, etc. I mean, come on, it's harboring a dangerous nuisance isn't it? Yet we dont' do anything about gun owners UNTIL they infringe upon someone else's rights; not before. Sorry, I don't buy the whole "won't someone please think of the children" crap. It's a crap argument with no weight to it.
 
Laila said:
Meh, It is an effective threat.
Dogs are unpredictable and capable of doing damage.
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Humans are unpredictable and capable of doing damage...more so in fact than a dog. I don't see us on leashes.
 
Ikari said:
I carry guns in public too...things could be used to kill; but still got them. Still carry them in public, still sell them, etc. I mean, come on, it's harboring a dangerous nuisance isn't it? Yet we dont' do anything about gun owners UNTIL they infringe upon someone else's rights; not before. Sorry, I don't buy the whole "won't someone please think of the children" crap. It's a crap argument with no weight to it.
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Except they do have leash laws specifically because dog's aren't predictable. I know unless I point the gun at someone and pull the trigger, it's not going to shoot them. You can't be certain when you're going for a walk with your 80 pound pitbull that he's not feeling like ignoring you today.
 
Kelzie said:
Except they do have leash laws specifically because dog's aren't predictable. I know unless I point the gun at someone and pull the trigger, it's not going to shoot them. You can't be certain when you're going for a walk with your 80 pound pitbull that he's not feeling like ignoring you today.
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What animal is predictable? The goldfish? Swim swim swim, nothing more. We're unpredictable. But you can know a dogs temperament and personality well if you're the owner. You'll know if you can keep your dog on leash or if it's safe to let him roam.
 
Ikari said:
What animal is predictable? The goldfish? Swim swim swim, nothing more. We're unpredictable. But you can know a dogs temperament and personality well if you're the owner. You'll know if you can keep your dog on leash or if it's safe to let him roam.
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You're free to try it. Just as a police officer is free to give you a citation when they catch you.

I believe every case of dog mauling is followed by their owner insisting it was completely out of the dog's character. They're animals. We tame them, we think we know them, but if you have any dogs, you should know they're can't be trusted all the time. One of my dogs is a huge jerk. Every once in a while though he surprises me and obeys.
 
Ikari said:
What animal is predictable? The goldfish? Swim swim swim, nothing more. We're unpredictable. But you can know a dogs temperament and personality well if you're the owner. You'll know if you can keep your dog on leash or if it's safe to let him roam.
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Exactly. If you just pay attention to your dog's demeanor, you know when it's time to leash him and when it's ok to let him off.

But that's for responsible pet owners. Some pet owners are not so responsible.
 
I live in the country and cannot tell you how happy I was when they annexed my ass into the city: it meant leash laws. No more dogs running all around my yard digging in dirt, digging up my plants, etc. No more cats walking all over my rides and peeing all over the place:( No more being scared to walk around the block in fear of dog attacks.

I will say on my block before the leash laws? It was the little dogs that were more of a threat to me than the big, burly type dogs. I could not walk around my block in peace due to the little snippy, yappy at your pants or shoe dogs. :shock:

And what kills me are the petowners who act as if their furbabies do no wrong. Reminds me of parents of human kids that let their little brats run willy nilly while out to eat or when trying to watch a movie.
 
It's called a squirt gun or a hose. Gets animals off your person or property fairly well. For the aggressive animals, get a gun. Problem solved.
 
jallman said:
Exactly. If you just pay attention to your dog's demeanor, you know when it's time to leash him and when it's ok to let him off.

But that's for responsible pet owners. Some pet owners are not so responsible.
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The bold is the reason for leash laws.
 
Crunch said:
#1. Why should I have to put up with your dog off a leash? Just because you know your dog is safe, do I? Does my leashed dog? My child that is walking with us?
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My nephew was bitten in the face by a supposedly well-trained dog who was not on a leash. He has a serious fear of them. Putting the dog on a leash allows him to feel safer. Dog owners should think of others when they are off their property.
 
The last dog we have had was a Beagle. He was so friendly my parents would let him go out of the house on his own. He never bit anyone as far as I know, but instead was often abused by stupid human youngsters as some of my friends reported to me. He eventually died after being ran over by a car. His name was Steed and I loved him so much. So, yes, I think dogs should be on a leash outside no matter what:(
 
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aps said:
My nephew was bitten in the face by a supposedly well-trained dog who was not on a leash. He has a serious fear of them. Putting the dog on a leash allows him to feel safer. Dog owners should think of others when they are off their property.
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The exact same thing happened to my little sister when she was about five. The dog was with it's owner when it happened. It chased her down and bit her in the face.

 
In the news last night, a 5 year old girl went into the neighbors yard where a pit bull was chained up. She had previously played with that dog, and everyone thought it was a nice dog. It ripped off a major portion of her lower face. Owner says that the little girl threw rocks at the dog. I doubt that, not that it matters. A proper reaction from a dog in that case would be to run away, not attack the rock thrower.
There is a reason that home insurance companies charge extra to dog owners.....
 
UtahBill said:
A proper reaction from a dog in that case would be to run away, not attack the rock thrower.
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If it was chained up, the fight or flight instinct is limited to a single option... and it isn't flight.

The story you shared is a terrible thing, and I hope th egirl comes through as well as possible, but there's no such thing as a proper reaction with a dog.
 
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