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Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?

Should ALL citizens have to pay income taxes?

  • No, only those who make over the "living wage"

    Votes: 24 35.3%

  • No, only those in the top 10%

    Votes: 3 4.4%

  • Yes, every working person should have to pay.

    Votes: 22 32.4%

  • Other (specify)

    Votes: 19 27.9%
  • Total voters
    68
TurtleDude said:
Jealous much? where does the federal government properly get the power to do such idiotic socialist engineering.

you want a spendthrift society?
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Why should people be born with advantages they do not need? Advantages that makes sure they are counterproductive people all their life and a leech on society?

50x GDP per capita inheritance maximum, should be enough to secure them at least a decent living condition the rest of their life, but it would also encourage them to make an effort. They deserve that much if their parents made such a good effort to get rich, and they deserve that little, to socially manipulate them into being constructive citizens.
 
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Maximus Zeebra said:
Why should people be born with advantages they do not need? Advantages that makes sure they are counterproductive people all their life and a leech on society?
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A better question:
What right do you have to the weath represneted by someone else's estate?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Where does that wealth come from?
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The labor of the person that earned it.
Doesnt the society buy those products and the worker make that possible?
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Because I bought lemonade from you, I have a right to what you did with the proceeds from that lemonade?

Um....no. The people who bought those prodicts/services beneffited from those purchases; their full interest was served with said benefit.
 
Goobieman said:
A better question:
What right do you have to the weath represneted by someone else's estate?
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It is a perfect display of the parasite mentality. The notion that because one exists in a certain area, they somehow are entitled to the wealth others produce in that boundary


If I am a farmer and it costs me 1 dollar a bushel to raise corn and I sell it to people at arms length transactions for 1.50 a bushel and I raise one million bushels I make a "profit" of 500K upon which I will pay say 150K of taxes. Now how someone who has nothing to do with me raising that corn claims he is entitled to that 350K is beyond me since I have already paid taxes on it. What is even more disgusting is the claim that if I decide to save that money and invest it rather than blow it on expensive dinners, booze, or vacations, I should be prevented from giving what is accumulated to whom or what I want when I die.

Even if the people I did business with are part of the parasite hordes, the fact is they have no just claim on my profit. They agreed that a bushel of corn was worth 1.50 to them and paid that to me and in return they got a dollar fifty worth of corn. They are no more entitled to part of my fifty cent profit than I am to come to their home and eat some of that corn
 
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Goobieman said:
No, it isn't.
It -might- be, if that were all I posted.
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It WAS all you posted in response to the question. If I missed an intended part of your answer though, my apologies.
 
Should ALL citizens pay income taxes?
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No, only ones with income. Typical republicans, put half the people out of work, then complain because half the people don't pay income taxes. :doh
 
EVERYONE should pay.

Since the poor consume the most services, they should be paying the most.
 
repeter said:
Why the hell can we not tax everyone 10% of their income? Just a percentage which stays the same, across the board.
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Because politicians gain power by selling favors.

One huge favor politicians sell is the definition of who gets taxed what and when. They're not going to give that up.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
EVERYONE should pay.

Since the poor consume the most services, they should be paying the most.
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Why not just charge everyone directly for the services they get? Send the poor a bill for welfare! You get $1,000 a month in assistance? You get a bill for $1,000 a month.

Makes perfect sense!
 
misterman said:
Why not just charge everyone directly for the services they get? Send the poor a bill for welfare! You get $1,000 a month in assistance? You get a bill for $1,000 a month.

Makes perfect sense!
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Woks for me.

But, since there are SOOO many "charitable" socialists in this country, beyond a doubt if the governemnt ended it's unconstitutional practice of subsidizing poverty the socialists would step right up to help the poor using their own money.

So there shouldn't be any problem at all.

You care for the poor? Fine. Use your money to show it, not mine.

A person should recieve personally tangible value for money taxed from him.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Woks for me.
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{Giggle.}

So this works fo you?

But, since there are SOOO many "charitable" socialists in this country, beyond a doubt if the governemnt ended it's unconstitutional practice of subsidizing poverty the socialists would step right up to help the poor using their own money.

So there shouldn't be any problem at all.
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Right. Charity will handle it. So you can pay whatever you pay in taxes now to charity instead.

You care for the poor? Fine. Use your money to show it, not mine.
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No, I'm from the local charity, please give me YOUR money so I can use it to care for the poor.
 
misterman said:
Right. Charity will handle it. So you can pay whatever you pay in taxes now to charity instead.
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I'm not stupid enough to equate taxation with charity.

Some people are.

I'm not one of those.

misterman said:
No, I'm from the local charity, please give me YOUR money so I can use it to care for the poor.
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Sorry, you'll have to find some FLOB socialist who said someone should do something to help the poor, then point out they're someone and you've come to collect.

I'm one of the someones who are honest enough to admit that if I had a rat's ass I wouldn't give it to the poor.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
I'm not stupid enough to equate taxation with charity.

Some people are.

I'm not one of those.



Sorry, you'll have to find some FLOB socialist who said someone should do something to help the poor, then point out they're someone and you've come to collect.

I'm one of the someones who are honest enough to admit that if I had a rat's ass I wouldn't give it to the poor.
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So are we all on board for charging everyone what they take from the government? Let's take that plan to Congress. :lol:
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
EVERYONE should pay.

Since the poor consume the most services, they should be paying the most.
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Libs claim that their concept of fairness is the only one that counts. I believe that there are several concepts of fairness including

1) the more you use the more you pay

2) it is not fair to make someone else pay for your existence unless they caused your existence (ie parents)

3) if you have to pay more you should get more government privileges-like votes
 
misterman said:
So are we all on board for charging everyone what they take from the government? Let's take that plan to Congress. :lol:
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that is the problem with a progressive income tax--the parasite class can outvote the net tax Producers
in the long run, the parasites lose though
 
Not all citizens are able to earn income. This makes it impossible for all citizens to pay income taxes.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
Not all citizens are able to earn income. This makes it impossible for all citizens to pay income taxes.
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That may be true but why should someone else have to pay for them?
 
TurtleDude said:
That may be true but why should someone else have to pay for them?
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So we should abolish all income tax because not everyone has income.

You're on a roll.
 
Goobieman said:
The labor of the person that earned it.

Because I bought lemonade from you, I have a right to what you did with the proceeds from that lemonade?

Um....no. The people who bought those prodicts/services beneffited from those purchases; their full interest was served with said benefit.
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The person who made the lemonade should enjoy the proceeds from it, and the person who picked the lemons. Not some mafia guy who does nothing but take the proceedings.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
The person who made the lemonade should enjoy the proceeds from it, and the person who picked the lemons.
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He does, because the guy that sold the lemonades bought the lemons.

Not some mafia guy who does nothing but take the proceedings.
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You mean the government? Yes, I agree.
 
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