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Racism amoung the republican party?

Is the republican party motivated by racism?


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Very well. Item 1: the modern South is no more racist, on the whole, than any other part of the country. One thing you may not realize is that most black folks still live here in the South... we live, work and etc side-by-side these days. My home state is 1/3 Afr-Am by population. Interracial couples are common and harassment over that has largely ceased.
My mother is 80. She grew up during "seperate but equal". Last year my white son had a black girlfriend. My mom had no problem with it.
There are lots of minority owned businesses. I've had several bosses who were black. People down here, for the most part, don't care what color your skin is anymore; they're more intrested in your character and abilities.

Item 2: the Confederate battle flag is viewed, by the vast majority of white Southerners, as a symbol of regional pride, and of the South generally; not as a symbol of slavery, racism, or anything of that sort. Just as we choose to emphasize the postive aspects of our heritage (courtesy, hospitality, family, faith, decency, patriotism, self-reliance), many of us see the Stars-and-Bars as a symbol of the positive aspects of our heritage.
Many Southern blacks understand this. I've known a couple of them that fly it their self, and one older black man with a confederate flag on his truck.

Item 3: We're really, really tired of being the racial whipping-boy of the US. Perhaps the rest of you need to look at your own racism instead of projecting it onto us. We're getting along quite well, thanks.

BIG Thanks to Goshin for getting the point across like this.

Alot of the hubbub over the use of the confederate flag in the south isn't coming from "southerners" but from people who live in urban areas in the south (Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Tampa, etc) who came there for work after apparently the cost of living in the north or the lack of jobs in the north or the general ****ty living conditions drove them south to find jobs and financial security.

Being someone who has lived in both rural North Carolina and "urban" North Carolina I can tell you there is a HUGE difference in the attitudes of people.
Namely, the list that Goshin used... courtesy, hospitality, family, faith, decency, patriotism, self-reliance is intermittent in Charlotte where it was standard in the more rural and small town small city areas of the state that Ive lived in.
 
Someone very close to me thinks that the republican party is racist. I was watching CNN (I believe) and came across Newt Gingrich saying Obama is the most radical president ever. Then, someone said that the most radical thing about Obama was his race.

So, is the republican party racist?

I'm not taking any sides, just provoking debate. I will be voting, however :p
i vote for "a good deal"......just by the demographic makeup of the party and the typical republican strongholds. possible i'm incorrect, but what's "a good deal"......25%? older white people still have many racist tendencies.

certainly not all.
 
i vote for "a good deal"......just by the demographic makeup of the party and the typical republican strongholds. possible i'm incorrect, but what's "a good deal"......25%? older white people still have many racist tendencies.

certainly not all.

And I can show you just as many racist libs. Of course it is more back room with them. :roll:

In fact, which party has more X clan members?

I am not even going to get into the amount of racist blacks and Jews I have known in my life. The number is staggering.

And...

Indians
Native Americans
Chinese
Japanese
etc, etc.
 
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And I can show you just as many racist libs. Of course it is more back room with them. :roll:

In fact, which party has more X clan members?

I am not even going to get into the amount of racist blacks and Jews I have known in my life. The number is staggering.
i'm not sure about that. no one i know who calls themselves liberal is racist. and i would bet current klan members do NOT identify themselves as liberals.
 
i'm not sure about that.

I am certain allot of things are indeed a fact you are not sure of.

Not that I am immune to this as well. Did not want you to take that as a vialed insult, it's not.

no one i know who calls themselves liberal is racist.

It's not like they are going to tell you. :roll:

and i would bet current klan members do NOT identify themselves as liberals.

Who said anything about current. I said x. Nice try though. :2wave:
 
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Thanks again for this.

I believe the South deserved higher taxes on their imported and exported goods. Theoretically one can make a much larger profit by enslaving the work force and simply having to clothe, feed and provide shelter for said slaves; rather than paying the work force fair wages like every other person. They had an unfair and inhumane advantage over the non-slave states. I'm sure the North thought this as well.

If it were up to me I would have banned all trading with a slave nation / state simply because of their blockage of civil rights, even if it did bankrupt them. IMHO they deserved to go bankrupt. And I feel this way about any slave owner... not just the Southern ones.

You're judging people and events of a period 150 years in the past by modern standards.

There are some things you need to consider. Among them, is that opposition to slavery on moral grounds was far from universal in the North. Nor would you find very many Northerners in 1864 who were willing to embrace the "Negro" as a full legal or social equal.

Applying modern values to historical scenarios is an inappropriate anachronism.

The fact is that slavery was on the way out, regardless. Advances in technolgy and powered farm equipment were cutting into the economic viability of slave labor already...given another 20-40 years, slavery would have withered away in the South and been abolished anyway. The more intelligent and far-thinking Southern slave owners were aware of this, but they were also aware that while they could economically survive a gradual withering of slave labor, that a sudden overturning of the existing order would have destroyed the South's economy, leading to devastatingly bad times for everyone (both blacks and whites).

At any rate, the issue was economics and Fed vs State. The question was whether the North, who dominated the Fedgov, had the right to impose ruinous tariffs and trade limitations on the South against their will... sanctions that would bankrupt the region. Not suprisingly, most people were not too keen on the idea.

Bear in mind that your average Southerner at that time was not a planation-owner or a slave-holder. The average Southerner in 1860's was a farmer, relatively poor, and probably unable to afford slaves regardless. For four years, Southerners fought determinedly, against overwhelming odds, with great courage, and suffered enormous losses. They didn't do so for the sake of slaves that most of them didn't own and couldn't afford anyway; they did so because they were fighting for their home states against what they saw as a heavy-handed Federal government acting to destroy the region's economy.

Nor were these tariffs altruistic acts intended to punish the wicked slaveowning south; they were selfishly motivated tariffs intended to enrich wealthy Northern industrialists and shipping magnates at the expense of a relatively impoverished rural region.
 
Everyone is a racist........;)

Bull****. Some are bigoted as we all have our own bigotry's. Not everyone believes they are superior or better than anyone based on race. Anyone who would think that is a fool.
 
Bull****. Some are bigoted as we all have our own bigotry's. Not everyone believes they are superior or better than anyone based on race. Anyone who would think that is a fool.

Sorry, I can't have this discussion.......:)
 
Sorry, I can't have this discussion.......:)

Why not??? Just word it so it does not come out like hate speech. Speak factual and be ready to back up your comments with evidence.

Scardy cat. :2razz:
 
Robert Byrd was in the KKK, used the word "nigger" on national TV and is still in the Senate.

Now what?

I think Strom was a Democrat before he switched to Republican.
 
I am certain allot of things are indeed a fact you are not sure of.

Not that I am immune to this as well. Did not want you to take that as a vialed insult, it's not.



It's not like they are going to tell you. :roll:



Who said anything about current. I said x. Nice try though. :2wave:
60 years ago, most people were racist, and i'm not insulted. my grandparents were racist, it was kinda ingrained back then. my husband parent were somewhat racist. there are degrees of that particular affliction, you know.

both my husband's family and mine are integrated, if you will, so i'm not completely naive about it.
 
I don't have the feeling that minorities are inferior and need my help - the way the democrats do.
 
I don't have the feeling that minorities are inferior and need my help - the way the democrats do.

Its funny how Ive never seen a solid answer from a bleeding heart liberal on this issue.
 
Its funny how Ive never seen a solid answer from a bleeding heart liberal on this issue.

That's because it's only racist to recognize that minorities have the same skills and abilities that everyone else does.

That's because they don't think they're racist/sexist. They think it's "nice" and "caring" of them to be so condescending to minorities like women and blacks. They're just trying to speak up for us poor little, incapable innocents and give us the help we so desperately require. :roll:

I really believe that THEY believe they're doing the right thing. It's difficult to make them realize how racist/sexist, condescending, and insulting their ideas are, though.
 
It is sad to me to see people that wish to deny the struggles that are still going on in this country in reguards to racism and sexism. It is like they think since women have the right to vote and the black folks are no longer slaves that it just ENDED. Total crap. It is alive and well today.
 
It is sad to me to see people that wish to deny the struggles that are still going on in this country in reguards to racism and sexism. It is like they think since women have the right to vote and the black folks are no longer slaves that it just ENDED. Total crap. It is alive and well today.

Only in the minds of willing slaves. The rest of us will overcome this and become somebody on our own. Without charity or hand outs.

PS no one said it was over, we said it was able to be overcome.
 
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Only in the minds of willing slaves. The rest of us will overcome this and become somebody on our own. Without charity or hand outs.

Willing? Do you think people live up in the projects for FUN??
 
Willing? Do you think people live up in the projects for FUN??

Not at all. People work there way out of the projects every day. People also sell drugs and rob people and are unwilling to try and get them selfs out.

It has nothing to do with having fun or not. It's about having the courage to work hard LEGALLY to get yourself out. Contribute to society rather than leach on it.
 
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Someone very close to me thinks that the republican party is racist. I was watching CNN (I believe) and came across Newt Gingrich saying Obama is the most radical president ever. Then, someone said that the most radical thing about Obama was his race.

So, is the republican party racist?

NO anyone with half a brain knows the KKK and the like are ran by the Democrats who think all blacks need to be kept down they just are good at making blacks think there for them.as far as obama goes he's just a puppet of George Soros and the Anti American Liberal left
 
Willing? Do you think people live up in the projects for FUN??


what reason do you have to make me believe that racism has anything to do with living in the projects?

its just a convenient scape goat for those who are too lazy to work hard and make something of themselves.
 
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The GOP is a party of the elite rich, which in terms of population is a tiny, tiny minority. The only basis they have to appeal to working class people is racism. And last I checked the Republicans are a pretty popular party. So yes, racism is pretty significant for them.
 
The GOP is a party of the elite rich, which in terms of population is a tiny, tiny minority. The only basis they have to appeal to working class people is racism. And last I checked the Republicans are a pretty popular party. So yes, racism is pretty significant for them.

So you are saying 50% or more of this country is elite or racist based on???? :lol:

Plenty of regular Christians like myself are conservative or Republican and it has NOTHING to do with being rich or racism.

Your statement is nothing more than partisan hackery.
 
Willing? Do you think people live up in the projects for FUN??

lets see: you have 5 kids with 4 different guys by the age of 19 and you are in the projects. Did you c hoose to live in the projects? Yes you did. No one who dies of smoking related cancer (as my father did) chose to get cancer but they chose to do the stuff that increased the odds of that happening.
 
The GOP is a party of the elite rich, which in terms of population is a tiny, tiny minority. The only basis they have to appeal to working class people is racism. And last I checked the Republicans are a pretty popular party. So yes, racism is pretty significant for them.

What complete utter horsepoop. There are lots of reasons why non-rich people vote GOP. (And many rich are dems-btw),

1) some people aspire to be rich and are tired of the dems sapping that desire through the addiction of welfare entitlement narcotics

2) many people think freedom is more important than handouts

3) many Americans correctly see the left as anti American and a party riddled with self guilt and ambivalence towards American Primacy

4) being upset with the racism of affirmative action doesn't make you racist

5) the dems are the party of trial lawyers and Gun banners

6) the dems are the party that most likely loathes the military and bashes police officers. Last I checked most enlisted men and cops aren't exactly hanging out at the country club playing polo
 
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