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Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

I support business refusal to do business with:


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The thread on the B&B has me intrigued. I'm curious how people would feel about other scenarios.

Please answer the following scenarios:

It would be OK for a business to refuse to do business with:
 
I should have included "none of the above"...but I messed up.
 
The right to refuse to do business with ... ect ... is illegal in some states because allowing it promotes discrimination.
 
The right to refuse to do business with ... ect ... is illegal in some states because allowing it promotes discrimination.

I agree...but several people on the B&B issue have said "Their business....their rules"....I'm really curious how far that rationale extends to those individuals.
 
Thanks for adding the "none of the above".....:2wave:
 
(Added "none of the above")

By "okay," do you mean legally, or morally?

The question of whether or not these things are legal is pretty straight-forward, so I'm assuming that you're asking whether, absent those laws, business owners should be allowed to discriminate against those people, right?
 
I agree...but several people on the B&B issue have said "Their business....their rules"....I'm really curious how far that rationale extends to those individuals.


I suppose if someone that owns a business wants to be bigoted and prejudice, that is their choice - it's also MY choice whether I pay for whatever services they offer.

If they run a business with these sorts of views, then I can't imagine they'd be in business long.

It is simply none of my business. It's freedom of choice for them AND for myself.
 
(Added "none of the above")

By "okay," do you mean legally, or morally?

The question of whether or not these things are legal is pretty straight-forward, so I'm assuming that you're asking whether, absent those laws, business owners should be allowed to discriminate against those people, right?

Yes....I'm speaking on a moral level not a legal level.
 
I suppose if someone that owns a business wants to be bigoted and prejudice, that is their choice - it's also MY choice whether I pay for whatever services they offer.

If they run a business with these sorts of views, then I can't imagine they'd be in business long.

It is simply none of my business. It's freedom of choice for them AND for myself.
My take as well. I won't support people who allow their bigotry to determine who can use their services, however I think it should be their rights on private property.
 
The thread on the B&B has me intrigued. I'm curious how people would feel about other scenarios.

Please answer the following scenarios:

It would be OK for a business to refuse to do business with:

All of the above + anyone they don't want to do business with.

Morally: people who do that are jackasses, but I support the right of anyone to be a jackass.
 
I seem to be stuck somewhere in the middle here...

I see merit in the idea of allowing a business owner to refuse any and all of these, if only to reveal that owner to boycotting.
As well as my libertarian tendencies rearing their heads again...

Then again, they wouldn't be boycotted in some areas of the world...

Additionally, I can't quite get behind the thought of allowing ANY discrimination...

It just flies against much of what I believe in.

So, my libertarian tendencies pull me towards maximum…liberty.

And my anti-discrimination feelings pull me the other way.

If only you could trust the population to police itself regarding discrimination.

Sadly, history seems to indicate otherwise.
 
Yes....I'm speaking on a moral level not a legal level.
It's morally repugnant, but forcing people by law to do something with their property because of a business license isn't the perfect solution to that.
 
Morally speaking, no it isn't okay. It doesn't make sense, either -- why would a business turn away customers?

I think a business should have every legal right to do it, though. I don't think it is morally right to force a business to serve people it does not wish to serve.
 
The thread on the B&B has me intrigued. I'm curious how people would feel about other scenarios.

Please answer the following scenarios:

It would be OK for a business to refuse to do business with:

All of the above plus politicians,trial lawyers and anyone else.
 
All of the above plus politicians,trial lawyers and anyone else.
See, I would probably do MORE business with someone who told politicians and lawyers that they weren't welcome. "You voted me a paycut, no food for you", "YOU sued me into bankruptcy leave now".
 
I said none of the above.

If a business choses to discriminate, that's fine, its wrong in many people's opinions, but if they want to do it, its really their funeral. They should know the consequences of their actions.

But its still wrong.
 
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I said none of the above.

If a business choses to discriminate, that's fine, its wrong in many people's opinions, but if they want to do it, its really their funeral. They should know the consequences of their actions.
Bingo, bigotry is not the best idea when you run a business, the p.r. will kill you.
 
Sounds to me like a bait thread.

I'm seriously NOT trying to make this a bait thread. I am genuninely interested in knowing whether people feel that private businesses should be allowed to discriminate or not. I was surprized so many people in the B&B thread supported private business discrimination against gays. I'm curious if it is a gay issue or whether the right to discriminate extends to those people beyond gays.
 
Legally, I would say yes to all of those (except none of the above obviously).

Morally, I would choose all of the above.
 
The thread on the B&B has me intrigued. I'm curious how people would feel about other scenarios.

Please answer the following scenarios:

It would be OK for a business to refuse to do business with:

I believe a private business should be able to discriminate along any line the owners choose.
 
If the reason for the refusal was the customers' sexuality, that's discrimination and is against the law, and hence the owner should be fined.
 
If the reason for the refusal was the customers' sexuality, that's discrimination and is against the law, and hence the owner should be fined.

The question isn't "is it a law", it's "should it be legal". We know it's a law already. And it's not discrimination; it's discrimination against a protected class. Not all discrimination is illegal.
 
The question isn't "is it a law", it's "should it be legal". We know it's a law already. And it's not discrimination; it's discrimination against a protected class. Not all discrimination is illegal.
It's the law and it should be the law.

Homosexuals are human beings, and human beings do not deserve to be handled differently by other human beings simply because they are from a different sexuality, that's disgusting and that should be against the law.
 
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