• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous grounds

Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    Votes: 48 59.3%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    Votes: 11 13.6%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

    Votes: 14 17.3%
  • Other, please explain

    Votes: 6 7.4%

  • Total voters
    81
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

I'm acknowledging that.....

OK. Well don't make it sound like I am stupid.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

OK. Well don't make it sound like I am stupid.

My mistake...I had misread your post several posts ago and was acknowledging....or at least attempting to acknowledge that......
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

My mistake...I had misread your post several posts ago and was acknowledging....or at least attempting to acknowledge that......

OK. Forgive the name calling, but that is frustrating, not being understood I mean.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

The right to be free a discrimination. The civil rights laws were enacted to prohibit businesses from engaging in this type of discrimination. Its part of doing business in this country. Why do you expect businesses to be able to operate freely without adhering to the rules that our society sets?

The right to be free from discrimination? Are you serious? We discriminate amongst many lines. The most frequent is that of ability. Or are you saying that a high school drop out should have the same probability of landing a job as head researcher in a government lab as a Ph.D. physicist? There is no right to be "free from discrimination". That's like saying you have a right to not be offended.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

The right to be free from discrimination? Are you serious? We discriminate amongst many lines. The most frequent is that of ability. Or are you saying that a high school drop out should have the same probability of landing a job as head researcher in a government lab as a Ph.D. physicist? There is no right to be "free from discrimination". That's like saying you have a right to not be offended.

Are you aware of the civil rights laws that we have in this country? If not, you might want to read them. They do not apply to the situations that you are suggesting.

There is a price to do business in this country. Businesses are not free to set up shop and reap the benefits of our society without complying with laws that our society has said we want to make our communities better places to live.
If a business doesn't want to comply, they can close up shop or move their business to a country where they are free to discriminate. However, we, in the United States have said that we do not want discrimination in our community.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Are you aware of the civil rights laws that we have in this country? If not, you might want to read them. They do not apply to the situations that you are suggesting.

Of course I know the civil rights laws. I also know they don't apply to my case. Why? Because there's no right to be free from discrimination! We've merely created what we call "protected classes".

There is a price for freedom in this country and that is if you don't like the way a business is handling itself, you may have to get off your ass and do something about it.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Of course I know the civil rights laws. I also know they don't apply to my case. Why? Because there's no right to be free from discrimination! We've merely created what we call "protected classes".

What case are you talking about?

If you know the civil rights laws and UNDERSTAND them...you would know that businesses are not allowed to operate by prohibiting access to people based on color, gender, age, ethnicty...etc.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

What case are you talking about?

If you know the civil rights laws and UNDERSTAND them...you would know that businesses are not allowed to operate by prohibiting access to people based on color, gender, age, ethnicty...etc.

Disney, trust me, don't bother with him. He believes in certain magical laws/rights and does not acknowledge anything else. If you keep this up, all you will achieve is your own frustration.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

What case are you talking about?

My previous scenario

If you know the civil rights laws and UNDERSTAND them...you would know that businesses are not allowed to operate by prohibiting access to people based on color, gender, age, ethnicty...etc.

You asked if I was aware of them, not if I agreed with them.
 
Last edited:
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

You asked if I was aware of them, not if I agreed with them.

Sorry Ikari....but if you are going to live in this country, even in Idaho or Colorado....you have to comply with anti-discrimination laws.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Sorry Ikari....but if you are going to live in this country, even in Idaho or Colorado....you have to comply with anti-discrimination laws.

That was never in contention here.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Their business, their rules.

I agree, but they've shot themselves in the feet by refusing gays. No straight man is gonna make reservations at a quaint little B & B without his wife pulling him by the nutz. Gays and chicks are their only hope.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

I agree, but they've shot themselves in the feet by refusing gays. No straight man is gonna make reservations at a quaint little B & B without his wife pulling him by the nutz. Gays and chicks are their only hope.

I think that's crazy that that is the only way a straight man will stay. I am the exception again. B&Bs are the way to go, cost about the same as a hotel and you get great beds and good breakfast usually. It's like staying at an Aunt's house.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

I think that's crazy that that is the only way a straight man will stay. I am the exception again. B&Bs are the way to go, cost about the same as a hotel and you get great beds and good breakfast usually. It's like staying at an Aunt's house.

Truth be told, I despise staying at B & B's. I love how charming they look, but I do not want to hear someone with a sensitive stomach in the bathroom all night. I only reserve rooms with private bathrooms, but there are still the rooms nearby with "access to shared bathroom" that curdles my stomach acids.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

I agree, but they've shot themselves in the feet by refusing gays. No straight man is gonna make reservations at a quaint little B & B without his wife pulling him by the nutz. Gays and chicks are their only hope.
Yep. I didn't want to make that point cause I figured everybody was thinking it anyway. Sorry, I'm a single guy, unless I am just fried beyond belief and need to escape I'd have to be dragged to a B&B.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

So you would be ok with a movie theater saying blacks are only allowed to sit in the balcony?

In my local theater, the balcony costs more. :lol:
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Truth be told, I despise staying at B & B's. I love how charming they look, but I do not want to hear someone with a sensitive stomach in the bathroom all night. I only reserve rooms with private bathrooms, but there are still the rooms nearby with "access to shared bathroom" that curdles my stomach acids.

Yeah, I like getting a private bathroom, too. Still, I was in the Army so nothing phases me. I used to sleep in the back of a moving APC and that's no B&B!

I have to admit never hearing someone with a sensitive stomach all night. That would suck.
 
Last edited:
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

I agree, but they've shot themselves in the feet by refusing gays. No straight man is gonna make reservations at a quaint little B & B without his wife pulling him by the nutz. Gays and chicks are their only hope.

:lol: :rofl That is true here in the States. In England going to a B&B is like going to a Super8 or Motel 6.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Yeah, I like getting a private bathroom, too. Still, I was in the Army so nothing phases me. I used to sleep in the back of a moving APC and that's no B&B!

I have to admit never hearing someone with a sensitive stomach all night. That would suck.

We stayed at a place last summer, and I was woken up everytime the woman across the hall got up to ..... :unsure13: .... well, I don't think her dinner agreed with her.

:lol: :rofl That is true here in the States. In England going to a B&B is like going to a Super8 or Motel 6.

Really? Are they like Fawlty Towers? :lol:
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

I think they have a right to refuse them service if they don't want homosexuals there for religious reasons. However, they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate in all cases. They shouldn't be allowed to deny blacks or whites or anyone else service based on race.
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

We stayed at a place last summer, and I was woken up everytime the woman across the hall got up to ..... :unsure13: .... well, I don't think her dinner agreed with her.

Ahh, you are a light sleeper. Not me, I sleep through tank battles. (which it sounds like she was having!)
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

Yup!!!!! Although if it was 2 hot lesbians I really am NOT in his corner on this one
You wouldn't want to be in the corner with them? Or near it?
 
Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

A private business should be allowed to refuse you if they dont like your shoes IMO.I dont think we have to go into religous rights.
 
Back
Top Bottom