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Tea Party or Coffee Party?

Which "Party" Do You Agree With More?


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What, for the extremely low attendance of the coffee parties?.... Amen brother!!! :lamo

Yeah, it means there are less crazies on the liberal side of things ;)

Regardless of the message the Tea Party and Coffee Party are trying to promote, they are the respective extremes of the liberals and conservatives, and I honestly would prefer both groups to go away.
 
1. Tea party started as a libertarian movement.

2. Rush has nothing to do with or even endorses tea parties.

What I'm saying is that both groups started with good intentions, but have devolved, or at least the Tea Party has. I'd say the Coffee Party is going to follow suit once it gains some more momentum.
 
Only time will tell how successful the Coffee Party will be. Your assessment is very premature. This group literally started a few months ago... I hadn't even heard about it until a week ago.

Honestly, I hope you are wrong about that.
 
Only time will tell how successful the Coffee Party will be. Your assessment is very premature. This group literally started a few months ago... I hadn't even heard about it until a week ago.

The tea parties under Ron Paul never amounted to anything and really don't count.

The present Tea Party really got started with a rant by CNBC's Rick Santelli in the middle of Feb. 2009. The first Tea Party in my town was July 4th 2009, or about 5 months after Santelli's rant.

We'll see if the coffee party can draw 4% of the population in a small town after it's been around for 5 months, or 12% after a year and a half........ that is assuming it's still around in 5 months. :lamo
 
Honestly, I hope you are wrong about that.

Why? What are you hoping I'm wrong about? I assume you're saying you hope the Coffee Party doesn't succeed. What exactly do you have against the Coffee Party message?
 
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Why? What are you hoping I'm wrong about? I assume you're saying you hope the Coffee Party doesn't succeed. What exactly do you have against the Coffee Party message?

It is essentially the liberal version of the Tea Party. Unless they can ensure they will stick to their good ideals (which violates quite a few laws about human nature), I won't like them, and would prefer for them to go away.
 
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I attended both Tea parties in my town, population 12,000....... we had 500 at the first, 1500 at the second.

Just like Air America, you Libs can try to copy the program, but you can't compete with the message.
I'm sorry, I find it hard to believe that you got about a 1/10th of the population to show up at a tea party meeting. It just doesn't work like that, even in a best case scenario, too many people don't agree or are busy or are tuned our or whatever. Not to mention the logistics of housing that many people. Do you have an official source to back it up?

And as for "5 activists huddled in the corner", I helped organize my city's Coffee Party, and we had about 80 people show up, so many we had to split off to a second venue. Now understandably you can call bs, seeing my above quote, and the only actual count I have is my email list which I can't show you, but I can link to a video of our meeting if you want to do a head count.
 
The TEA Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already," but I'm not sure what the Coffee Party stands for... besides bigger government, of course. :confused:

Is there a reason for naming it "Coffee Party" other than as a counter-attack to the growing Tea Party Movement?
 
The TEA Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already," but I'm not sure what the Coffee Party stands for... besides bigger government, of course. :confused:

Is there a reason for naming it "Coffee Party" other than as a counter-attack to the growing Tea Party Movement?

They called it the coffee party because Libs are so very original in their thinking. :doh :mrgreen:
 
I don't get it, how are either different? :/
 
The TEA Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already," but I'm not sure what the Coffee Party stands for... besides bigger government, of course. :confused:

Is there a reason for naming it "Coffee Party" other than as a counter-attack to the growing Tea Party Movement?
It stands for "Clan of Obama-Fellating Friends for Expanding Entitlements."
 
The TEA Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already," but I'm not sure what the Coffee Party stands for... besides bigger government, of course. :confused:

Is there a reason for naming it "Coffee Party" other than as a counter-attack to the growing Tea Party Movement?


I don't get it... Obama reduces people's taxes and they want more reductions? I have a question for you... pick one... reduce our federal deficit or reduce taxes? Either you pick one or you find a middle ground. You can cut programs all you want, but those programs supply jobs to people so when you cut programs you lose jobs. You reduce taxes, you have less revenue to pay for government, so the deficit and debt goes up. Good for job creation in the public sector though. Increase taxes and less public jobs are able to be created, but the deficit goes down. Stop creating government funded jobs and people will say the government isn't doing enough. Spend too much and other people say the government is spending too much. But no matter what, this government problem has been long coming and for what ever reason people are choosing to speak out in mass now... when we have trillions of dollars of debt. Good timing...


Where does the Coffee party say "all our problems are solved through bigger government"? No. Our current government is the problem... stalemates! No one is willing to give more than an inch... bills go unfunded (the left and right are to blame for this)... no one is capable of talking with one another in a respectful manner anymore. Rhetoric is spewed from the left and the right insulting each other, as you can see from any conservative who attempts to bash liberals (which has already happened multiple times in this thread alone) or if you watch either Fox News or MSNBC.

I have been using forums for years now, and 4 out of 5 times when I have seen partisan insults being flung around, it is conservatives insulting liberals. You know what conservatives, you're not the only ones in this country. So you better get used to dealing with the middle and the left or none of your goals will be achieved. A middle ground ALWAYS needs to be met. And clearly right now in government neither side is willing to meet at that middle ground.

The point of the Coffee Party is to come together and solve the problems in government. Not insult the other side. Not deem other people's opinions irrelevant because they contrast with one's own opinions. Those of you who think liberals are always wrong, this party is clearly not for you. Go join the Tea Party and act like it's liberals and conservatives coming together peacefully. I call B.S. Everything I've heard from the Tea Party is conservative ideas. Small government, less taxes, more market control, "Obama is a Socialist", "stay out of my health care",...

I agree with some of the Tea Party's ideas, but not with the way they express those ideas.


But at least the Coffee Party is focusing on public relations and getting along to get things done rather than repeating everything said on Fox News, even if the things being shouted do reflect their opinions. What good will come from insulting opponents and calling them Socialists or Anti-American? All it will do is make them not want to deal with you.
 
Both the Tea and Coffee party exemplify exactly how we arrived in our current situation. Vague generalities, without ever offering a workable specific plan. Throw around words like "small government" "liberty" "grassroots" and then pat yourself on the back. Nobody stands up and offers a workable plan that can actually implement their goals.

For example, lets suppose that balancing the budget is one of your stated ideals. Saying "we need to control outrageous spending in washington" is an empty platitude. Saying "we need to raise the social security retirement age to 70, cut the BCT Ground Combat Vehicle Program, and reduce medicare coverage for end-of-life care" is actually meaningful.

A talking point is not a replacement for taking action.
 
I don't get it...
Ain't that the truth?

All you've done is vomited out the same partisan bull**** you claim to decry. This is nothing different from what you could find posted on a daily basis on DemocraticUnderground and the like. Hell, you can't even come up with anything original in the name of your group. The "coffee party"? That's the best all you intellectual liberals can do?

You are, of course, more than free to have an Obama circle-jerk, but don't pretend like you are doing anything original there, either.

Seriously, this is all getting to be even more juvenile than usual partisan politics, which I suppose is an accomplishment of sorts.
 
Well I am a moderate and I lament the dearth of a moderate movement, with all of you conservatives drinking your tea, and now followed by the progressives drinking coffee.

I now proclaim the Hot Chocolate Party!

Whig Out.
 
Well I am a moderate and I lament the dearth of a moderate movement, with all of you conservatives drinking your tea, and now followed by the progressives drinking coffee.

I now proclaim the Hot Chocolate Party!

Whig Out.

I'll join that party when the coming Ice Age hits. :mrgreen:
 
I'll join that party when the coming Ice Age hits. :mrgreen:

Why wait? :confused: It tastes good now. Check out "Our Philosophy" page on my link below.
 
I don't get it... Obama reduces people's taxes and they want more reductions?

He reduces them for some, raises them for others right now, and with current spending they will go up for everyone.

I have a question for you... pick one... reduce our federal deficit or reduce taxes? Either you pick one or you find a middle ground.

Well personally I want to cut or at least heavily reform a lot of programs

You can cut programs all you want, but those programs supply jobs to people so when you cut programs you lose jobs.

The money had to come out of the private sector. Government make work projects don't mean more jobs, they just vomit people's money everywhere. It's stealing form Peter to Pay Paul

You reduce taxes, you have less revenue to pay for government, so the deficit and debt goes up. Good for job creation in the public sector though. Increase taxes and less public jobs are able to be created, but the deficit goes down. Stop creating government funded jobs and people will say the government isn't doing enough. Spend too much and other people say the government is spending too much. But no matter what, this government problem has been long coming and for what ever reason people are choosing to speak out in mass now... when we have trillions of dollars of debt. Good timing...

How about we cut taxes and spending? See above.

Where does the Coffee party say "all our problems are solved through bigger government"? No. Our current government is the problem... stalemates! No one is willing to give more than an inch... bills go unfunded (the left and right are to blame for this)...

Stalemate in government? I'm cool with that. Usually when they agree on something it's to take more money out of my pocket. Most of our problems don't need government to fix them.

no one is capable of talking with one another in a respectful manner anymore. Rhetoric is spewed from the left and the right insulting each other, as you can see from any conservative who attempts to bash liberals (which has already happened multiple times in this thread alone) or if you watch either Fox News or MSNBC.

You should read news papers of the past. Heck William Randolph Hearst is largely responsible for the Spanish-American War..

I have been using forums for years now, and 4 out of 5 times when I have seen partisan insults being flung around, it is conservatives insulting liberals. You know what conservatives, you're not the only ones in this country. So you better get used to dealing with the middle and the left or none of your goals will be achieved. A middle ground ALWAYS needs to be met. And clearly right now in government neither side is willing to meet at that middle ground.

Do we have some sort of tally system for these insults? The crap flies both ways.
 
based on the underlying principle that the government is 'not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will

That is almost word-for-word the doctrine of democratic socialism. Note the phrase collective will, rather than individual (collectivism vs. individualism). These people completely opposed everything the country was founded on, and they don't even realize it.
 
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That is almost word-for-word the doctrine of democratic socialism. Note the phrase collective will, rather than individual (collectivism vs. individualism). These people completely opposed everything the country was founded on, and they don't even realize it.

An election for office is the best example of people coming together to express their collective wills, and it is very much a part of our system. Don't get hung up on these little phrases, but instead look at the underlying meaning.
 
An election for office is the best example of people coming together to express their collective wills, and it is very much a part of our system. Don't get hung up on these little phrases, but instead look at the underlying meaning.

Looking at the underlying meaning is exactly what I did. On the surface, the phrase seems to just mean what you said it means. But that doesn't make what I said any less true.
 
Decaf.

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You know what I *like* about decaffeinated versus caffeinated? The healthy carcinogens that replace the caffeine!:doh Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
You know what I *like* about decaffeinated versus caffeinated? The healthy carcinogens that replace the caffeine!:doh Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

.....This is funny. I just don't know why.
 
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