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Is voting a right

Voting is

  • A right

    Votes: 20 69.0%

  • a privilege

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • Total voters
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Coronado said:
It's the other way around, trust me.
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rivrrat said:
WTF does marital status have to do with voting?
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As with most every other topic, it's all about money.

Single women typically use the government to provide the economic security a husband brings to the home, while married women do not. This is an established voting trend.

Husbands who do a poor job of bringing home the bacon are replaced by the wife with government assistance in the same way. Also, when the government steps in to provide, unmarried men feel free of any obligation to their children.

Since women who are single or commit fiscal infidelity increase the size of government, which in turn further harms the family and the individual, such women are a source of harm and should be disempowered from creating further damage.
 
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Jerry said:
As with most every other topic, it's all about money.

Single women typically use the government to provide the economic security a husband brings to the home, while married women do not.

Husbands who do a poor job of bringing home the bacon are replaced by the wife with government assistance in the same way. Also, when the government steps in to provide, unmarried men feel free of any obligation to their children.
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Ahem.. just because a woman is single does not mean that she is depending on the government for ****.

Where do you get these hairbrained ideas??

Jerry said:
The reasoning behind the idea of banning governmental aid recipients from voting is so that they don't keep voting themselves more money or keeping big-gov politicians in office.

This is also the exact same reason why single women should not be allowed to vote, but I digress.
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So while you say "typically" to remove responsibility from yourself by painting all with the same brush - you stated above that single women should be denied voting privileges.

Are you really that Neanderthal'ish?
 
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the makeout hobo said:
Well felons rights have been taken away by the courts. A felon can have their rights to life and liberty revoked by the court system, voting rights are no different.
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Did you look at the link I left or no.

Did you read anything else I said other than the felon portion?
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
Ahem.. just because a woman is single does not mean that she is depending on the government for ****.

Where do you get these hairbrained ideas??

So while you say "typically" to remove responsibility from yourself by painting all with the same brush - you stated above that single women should be denied voting privileges.

Are you really that Neanderthal'ish?
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Civilly debating a controversial point of view: So easy even this cave-man can do it :2wave:
 
digsbe said:
We also restrict voting privileges to felons. Being able to vote is a privilege.
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But not all felonies should deprive people of the right to vote.
 
Jerry said:
As with most every other topic, it's all about money.

Single women typically use the government to provide the economic security a husband brings to the home, while married women do not.

Husbands who do a poor job of bringing home the bacon are replaced by the wife with government assistance in the same way. Also, when the government steps in to provide, unmarried men feel free of any obligation to their children.

Since women who are single or commit fiscal infidelity increase the size of government, which in turn further harms the family and the individual, such women are a source of harm and should be disempowered from creating further damage.
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LMFAO

It would be better served to disallow anyone on public assistance. Gender is irrelevant, marital status is irrelevant. There are many 100s of thousands of single women quite able to care for ourselves, tyvm. So you can take your outdated, sexist stereotype and shove it up your ass. :2wave:
 
Jerry said:
Civilly debating a controversial point of view: So easy even this cave-man can do it :2wave:
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I was perfectly civil in my response to you. Is that the only thing you have to say to me or would you like to expound more upon your OUT dated ideas of a woman's "place" in society?
 
OxymoronP said:
Same argument was made about blacks and women.



Well in the general sence, since 17 and under are not allowed to vote it means that the goverment can decide the qualifications thus it becomes a privilege.
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So a five year old has the right to bear arms. :shock:
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I was perfectly civil in my response to you.
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:rofl

TheGirlNextDoor said:
Is that the only thing you have to say to me or would you like to expound more upon your OUT dated ideas of a woman's "place" in society?
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If you feel you're capable of challenging my position on an intellectual level then please feel free to try. I claimed that women would use the government for money, not for thinking. Give it your best :2wave:

I claimed that expanding government was an established voting trend of single women, and here's a link:

http://www.gqrr.com/index.php?ID=2282

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As Democrat policies such as Universal Health Care expand government, while Republican policies such as school vouchers reduce the size of government, and that these examples represent the typical difference between the Left and the Right, this graph clearly represents my claim of single women expanding government.
 
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the makeout hobo said:
I've seen various people on this site claim that people on governmental aid shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now my thought is that voting is a fundamental right, as we live in a democratic republic. Voting is what makes this a democratic form of government (can we please not quibble over semantics), as opposed to some sort of oligarchy, and as thus shouldn't be taken away without due process. What are your thoughts?
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There is no constitutional right to vote.

It is a privilege.
 
the makeout hobo said:
I've seen various people on this site claim that people on governmental aid shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now my thought is that voting is a fundamental right, as we live in a democratic republic. Voting is what makes this a democratic form of government (can we please not quibble over semantics), as opposed to some sort of oligarchy, and as thus shouldn't be taken away without due process. What are your thoughts?
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I agree with you that voting is a universal right in a democracy, but I think the vote doesn't mean much anymore. There are so many people now that it's impossible for my small opinion to be conveyed in any meaningful way to government power. I don't feel represented, no matter who is in power.

I call my local MP sometimes to complain about things, but as if they are going to bring it up in provincial cabinet. So then what, I have to go make a petition with 50,000 signatures in order for my idea to even be heard; and people are so complacent about letting the government run them over, that they could care less.

You guys have it worse down South. At least up here we have a few parties to choose from. Your two party system might as well be one-party rule with how things are shaping up.

I feel that whatever the next paradigm is for humanity, our current system will not be part of it. We live in degenerate times.
 
Jerry said:
Civilly debating a controversial point of view: So easy even this cave-man can do it :2wave:
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You're surprised that people react negatively when you make completely ridiculous and offensive comments based on little more than your own innate biases?

The fact that a particular group of people doesn't vote the way you would like them to is not a rationale for denying them the right to vote. If we allocated voting rights on such an arbitrary manner, you might find yourself on the short end of the stick.
 
faminedynasty said:
Nor will I ever. I earn my own living.
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That's special. Since you are unmanageable and unpromotable, I will therefore discount your opinion of bosses. Have a nice day.
 
Jerry said:
… The reasoning behind the idea of banning governmental aid recipients from voting is so that they don't keep voting themselves more money or keeping big-gov politicians in office.

This is also the exact same reason why single women should not be allowed to vote, but I digress.

The danger in creating a requirement of financial independence is that you invariably create new ways to abuse the system. Title19 and SMART users are those we have in mind to keep from voting, but what about those using section8 housing assistance, Social Security, or veteran's benefits?

The greater evil is blocking those on government assistance from voting. The problem of big government must be dealt with another way.
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Jerry said:
… I claimed that women would use the government for money …

I claimed that expanding government was an established voting trend of single women …
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You claimed that “single women should not be allowed to vote” because in effect they will vote their interests.

But, of course, that is the foundation of democracy: people voting their interests.

You just don't like the way single women see their interests. Hence you would seek to exclude them.

You don't love true democracy because oftentimes the outcome is not in agreement with your perception of your interests.

The only conclusion I have is that women are changing our society because, at last, just in this past century they have a direct hand in shaping it.

Don't like it? Tough, meet you at the ballot box.
 
Jerry said:
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If you feel you're capable of challenging my position on an intellectual level then please feel free to try. I claimed that women would use the government for money, not for thinking. Give it your best :2wave:

I claimed that expanding government was an established voting trend of single women, and here's a link:

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner | News

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As Democrat policies such as Universal Health Care expand government, while Republican policies such as school vouchers reduce the size of government, and that these examples represent the typical difference between the Left and the Right, this graph clearly represents my claim of single women expanding government.
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Jesus ****ing christ Jerry, your entire 'argument' (if you could call it that) boils down to preventing people from voting if they vote Democrat. You do realize how absurd that is, surely.
 
i think of voting as both a right and a duty towards the government, but thats 'cause i have compulsory universal sufferage, hence it's something that has to be done.
 
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