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Where did the Universe come from?

Where did the Universe come from?


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Damn if anyone knows the answer to that one. By definition, in fact, it couldn't have come from anywhere, since the origin of the originator would then become the de-facto origin, and the question merely moves back to "what was the origin of the origin's origin"?

Since there's no evidence of any God or other supertition based entity, it's pointless to say "God".

Either that or we could say we are limited by our own imaginations. If the universe does existed inside some other structure, than who is to say what the laws of physics are in that place. Maybe mass and energy can be created from nothing there.

Here is a rather cool video that might help the discussion along. If it doesn't at least its an awesome video.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY"]YouTube- Imagining the Tenth Dimension (annotated)[/ame]
 
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Either that or we could say we are limited by our own imaginations. If the universe does existed inside some other structure, than who is to say what the laws of physics are in that place. Maybe mass and energy can be created from nothing there.

Here is a rather cool video that might help the discussion along. If it doesn't at least its an awesome video.

YouTube- Imagining the Tenth Dimension (annotated)

I made no reference to particular laws of physics.

To claim that it was created implies a cause for origin which does nothing to answer the actual question.

Adducing such actions to some "God" leads to these questions that serve only to increase the complexity of the answer without adding to understanding.

Q: How was the Universe created?

A: God did the deed.

Q: Where did God come from?

A: God's eternal and has always existed.

Q: What environmental processes shaped God to give him the urge to build puppets and puppet stages?

A: It's not like that.

Q: Why isn't it?

A: Because Allahu Akhbar!!!! Ask more questions and we'll cut your head off.
 
I was referring to the written by God part. Not the science part.

I was referring to the whole thing together not broken up so you miss the point entirely part.
 
I made no reference to particular laws of physics.

To claim that it was created implies a cause for origin which does nothing to answer the actual question.

Adducing such actions to some "God" leads to these questions that serve only to increase the complexity of the answer without adding to understanding.

Q: How was the Universe created?

A: God did the deed.

The question was how, not who.

Q. How was my front axle repaired?

A. Bob did it.

The answer doesn't even attempt to address the question; irrelevant information.

Q: Where did God come from?

Where god came from doesn't explain how the universe was made, so it doesn't matter. My mechanic could be from Kansas or California, but knowing that doesn't tell me one ****ing thing about what he did to repair my front axle.

Q: What environmental processes shaped God to give him the urge to build puppets and puppet stages?

The subject is how the universe was made, not how God was made.

You see, Scarecrow, you hardly ever ask the right questions because you allow yourself to be thrown off topic so often.
 
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Interesting stuff here: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth]Creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
Several interesting discussions have led me to do a poll, asking this important question. After voting, leave a comment on how you voted and what led you to think this way.

I'm a Deist and more or less follow the Grand Architect or Divine Watchmaker belief.
I tried being atheist at one point but it didn't feel right.

Science, in my opinion, is wonderful but can't explain everything.
 
Several interesting discussions have led me to do a poll, asking this important question. After voting, leave a comment on how you voted and what led you to think this way.

There should have been an "other" or a "none of the above."

The truth is we don't know, we will probably never know, but its fun to fantasize about gods and sugarplum fairies.
 
I'm a Deist and more or less follow the Grand Architect or Divine Watchmaker belief.
I tried being atheist at one point but it didn't feel right.

Science, in my opinion, is wonderful but can't explain everything.

Please explain the Grand Architect or Divine Watchmaker belief.
 
Please explain the Grand Architect or Divine Watchmaker belief.

A non specific God created the science behind all of the chemistry of the universe and set things into motion according to that.

This God does not interfere with human existence in any positive or negative way.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism]Deism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
A non specific God created the science behind all of the chemistry of the universe and set things into motion according to that.

This God does not interfere with human existence in any positive or negative way.

Ahh, remind me, what 1970s book is that from?
 
Ahh, remind me, what 1970s book is that from?

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I'll have to check it out.

Is it any good?

I think he was being a smartass. Erich von Däniken believed that aliens visited the ancient earth and gave technology to the Mayans and Egyptians and where recieved as gods.
 
The question was how, not who.

That's nice.

When the answer is in the Magic Sky Pixie Arena, the answer becomes "who", not "what".

Q. How was my front axle repaired?

A. Bob did it.

The answer doesn't even attempt to address the question; irrelevant information.

See?

You've got the picture.

Where god came from doesn't explain how the universe was made, so it doesn't matter. My mechanic could be from Kansas or California, but knowing that doesn't tell me one ****ing thing about what he did to repair my front axle.

Saying "brane theory" doesn't answer the question, either.

Guess what? There is NO answer.

I don't see what your problem is. Perhaps your emotions are preventing you from understanding my answer, since your response is merely repeating what I said with Jerry Vehemence?


The subject is how the universe was made, not how God was made.

Did you have help figuring that one out?

You see, Scarecrow, you hardly ever ask the right questions because you allow yourself to be thrown off topic so often.

I am on topic. Being on topic does require one to understand the topic, which I do in full. You emotional response indicates you're using some other organ to drive your key booad at this time.

Challenging mythological superstitions will to that to some people.
 
It came from outer space :mrgreen:
 
It certainly did not come from Uranus:)
 
That's nice.

When the answer is in the Magic Sky Pixie Arena, the answer becomes "who", not "what".



See?

You've got the picture.



Saying "brane theory" doesn't answer the question, either.

Guess what? There is NO answer.

I don't see what your problem is. Perhaps your emotions are preventing you from understanding my answer, since your response is merely repeating what I said with Jerry Vehemence?




Did you have help figuring that one out?



I am on topic. Being on topic does require one to understand the topic, which I do in full. You emotional response indicates you're using some other organ to drive your key booad at this time.

Challenging mythological superstitions will to that to some people.

I'm sorry, I can't hear your crying over my techo http://jo.koan.net/freemusic/DJsqgl...f_Confusion/NEW_0RDER_-_Confusion_128kbps.mp3
 
A non specific God created the science behind all of the chemistry of the universe and set things into motion according to that.

This God does not interfere with human existence in any positive or negative way.

Deism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm curious as to why you think the origin of the universe is intelligent.

Are you aware of the fatal flaws of the watchmaker argument?

If you believe that the origin of the universe isn't necessarilly intelligent then you should probably describe it with some other label than God. God implies some sort of intelligence or conscious entity. It would be like describing natural causes like the flowing of water as divine. Perhaps you are a pantheist.
 
The evidence points toward the big bang.

What caused the big bang or why it came about is unknown. AFAIK, any talk about what came "before" or "caused" the big bang is nonsense because before the planck time our understanding of physics breaks down.

Perhaps its the christian god, perhaps its the hindu gods, perhaps its a ham sandwich. We just don't know.

My answer is "I don't know". That is the best answer until more evidence or some other means of confirming a proposed theory is in (this includes the theory that god created the universe).

"I don't know" is a valid answer. One doesn't have to reject the possibility of God or accept that God created the universe. One can simply not know. I believe that is the ONLY valid position to take barring personal claims of supernatural revelation or guidance, a conundrum all its own
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^ yeah that.

I was half awake on my earlier posts in this thread, and intended to clarify my position a bit more after I had some sleep and the synapses were firing properly, no need to after reading this post.
 
On principle, I have faith that God is ALL. God is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. God created the Universe. I believe that God did this using mechanisms of science so he used a Big Bang to create the energy of the Universe, which evolved into the galaxies and stars we know today.

With all due respect, there is no evidence that God created the universe. If one can believe that an all powerful God created everything, then we must accept the fact that it is just as likely that the universe was created by a flying spaghetti monster, who, out of thin air, and with his noodly appendage, made everything appear and come to life.
 
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With all due respect, there is no evidence that God created the universe. If one can believe that an all powerful God created everything, then we must accept the fact that it is just as likely that the universe was created by a flying spaghetti monster, who, out of thin air, and with his noodly appendage, made everything appear and come to life.

May his balls be tender and juicy in your mouth.
 
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