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Is this website mostly right wingers

is this site mostly right wingers

  • yes

    Votes: 18 31.0%
  • no

    Votes: 29 50.0%
  • americans dont know what right wing is

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • america is so far to the right that hitler would be considered liberal

    Votes: 8 13.8%

  • Total voters
    58
If you add them all up:

525 undisclosed

506 right-wingers

353 left-wingers

262 independents

99 moderates

53 centrists

52 privates

Doing the math, most of the people on this site are actually non-partisan or non-wingers.

So I don't know what you people are smoking, but it must be something good.
 
I see a lot of whacked out progressives who think everyone to the right of Diane Feinstein is a neo-con.

If Diane Feinstein is a by-word for leftism, Sweet Catz, then yeah, they're all neo-con.

In global terms, this raging socialist, commie, pinko Prez of yours is centre-right. As indeed is anyone who doesn't question the hegemony of market economics. THAT'S the centre-point, the questioning of the capitalist economic system. If you question it, you're in the centre. If you reject it, you're on the left, and if you accept it, you're on the right.

Can anyone suggest a different way of positioning the political markers?
 
So called “centrists” are worse than liberals and conservatives.
 
If Diane Feinstein is a by-word for leftism, Sweet Catz, then yeah, they're all neo-con.

In global terms, this raging socialist, commie, pinko Prez of yours is centre-right. As indeed is anyone who doesn't question the hegemony of market economics. THAT'S the centre-point, the questioning of the capitalist economic system. If you question it, you're in the centre. If you reject it, you're on the left, and if you accept it, you're on the right.

Can anyone suggest a different way of positioning the political markers?

Does anyone else believe that politics don't fit into a 1 or 2 dimensional scale?
 
The right wingers label me a liberal. The left wingers label me a conservative. This confirms to me that I am somewhere in the middle. :mrgreen:
 
If you add them all up:

525 undisclosed

506 right-wingers

353 left-wingers

262 independents

99 moderates

53 centrists

52 privates

Doing the math, most of the people on this site are actually non-partisan or non-wingers.

So I don't know what you people are smoking, but it must be something good.

I wouldn't count undisclosed though since you don't know what they are.
 
I don't know if this forum is mostly right wingers.

I do think they are the loudest.
 
Also with the data most of the disclosed political leanings are rightwing.

Would it be improper to assume that we could expect a similar ratio of left to right in the undisclosed category? Though one side may systematically prefer to choose privacy more often.
 
Does anyone else believe that politics don't fit into a 1 or 2 dimensional scale?

"You ask me if I'm a neoconservative. What I find amusing is that people who decry a one-dimensional view of society, a one-dementional view of politics, apply a one-dimensional label to things. [....]I believe there are different realms in the society and there are different principles which underlie these realms. That's why I've called myself a socialist in economics, a liberal in politics, and a conservative in culture. [...] I'm a socialist in economics because I believe that every society has an obligation to give people that degree of decency to allow them to feel that they are citiziens in this society. In the realm of economics, the first lien on resources should be that of the community in a redistributive way.
I'm a conservative in culture because I believe in continuity, and I believe in judgment. I don't believe that all opinions in culture are th same as everybody else's opinion. I don't believe that all art is the same. Some things are better than others, and you have to justidy why it's better than others, and you have to understand the grounds of justification.

I'm a liberal in politics but liberalism has no fixed dogmas. It has no fixed points, that you can say, 'This is the liberal position'. It changes because it's an attitude. It's a skepticism. It's a pluralism, it's agnostic."
-Daniel Bell
 
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The right wingers label me a liberal. The left wingers label me a conservative. This confirms to me that I am somewhere in the middle. :mrgreen:
Same thing happens to me, which suggests that the political spectrum isn't two dimensional.

Not that the partisans of this world care, though ...
 
Same thing happens to me, which suggests that the political spectrum isn't two dimensional.
I meant to say "one dimensional". :doh
 
"he was a left wing socialist. thats why he hated communism. makes sense to me. ok i;ll accept that." - cope2

Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler was a socialist and that's left wing.

And, yes, he hated communist...and jews, and gypsy's, and Christians, and gays, and...

...but such is the legacy of left-wing ideology.
 
The right wingers label me a liberal. The left wingers label me a conservative. This confirms to me that I am somewhere in the middle. :mrgreen:

Same has happened to me in the past and continues to happen. I focus on the individual issue and that dictates my lean. I try and narrow it down by socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but that doesn't begin to cover everything, does it? :)
 
"he was a left wing socialist. thats why he hated communism. makes sense to me. ok i;ll accept that." - cope2

Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler was a socialist and that's left wing.

And, yes, he hated communist...and jews, and gypsy's, and Christians, and gays, and...

...but such is the legacy of left-wing ideology.

i don't think you can rate hitler on a left to right scale, he was anti everything that wasn't pure white german, he created his own system, socialism was just his view on economy, he was socialy conservative, anti-democracy, anti-communist, anti-monarchist, anti-semite, anti-gay, and hitler wanted it named the "social revolutionary party" not national socialist etc..
 
i don't think you can rate hitler on a left to right scale, he was anti everything that wasn't pure white german, he created his own system, socialism was just his view on economy, he was socialy conservative, anti-democracy, anti-communist, anti-monarchist, anti-semite, anti-gay, and hitler wanted it named the "social revolutionary party" not national socialist etc..
This is one reason why the one-dimensional model fails.
 
"he was a left wing socialist. thats why he hated communism. makes sense to me. ok i;ll accept that." - cope2

Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler was a socialist and that's left wing.

And, yes, he hated communist...and jews, and gypsy's, and Christians, and gays, and...

...but such is the legacy of left-wing ideology.

...Im...
...Convinced we need to develop a test to take away your voting rights.:rofl
 
Yep.. But it was suppose to be a secret. LOL! Kidding.
 
“i don't think you can rate hitler on a left to right scale…” - spud meister

Actually, I think you can. He was in fact a Socialist (left wing).

“…he was socialy conservative…” - spud meister

Based on what?

“…and hitler wanted it named the 'social revolutionary party' not national socialist etc.” - spud meister

1. Wasn’t the “social revolutionary party” Russian?

2. How does this change the fact that Hitler was a Socialist (left-wing)?
 
“i don't think you can rate hitler on a left to right scale…” - spud meister

Actually, I think you can. He was in fact a Socialist (left wing).






of course, you're right, the party had socialist in the title, it had to be left, just like the peoples republic of china, which has the people governing to an extraordinary degree.

“…he was socialy conservative…” - spud meister

Based on what?

based on he saw womens role as a traditional one in the home, without the right to vote, strongly enforced social order, extreme homophobia, discouraged pornography, prostitution, cosmetics, alcohol, smoking

“…and hitler wanted it named the 'social revolutionary party' not national socialist etc.” - spud meister

1. Wasn’t the “social revolutionary party” Russian?

2. How does this change the fact that Hitler was a Socialist (left-wing)?

nope that was the socialist revoltionary party

because you seem to be basing your arguments on the name of the nazi party, and i am therefore showing arguments against that contention
 
“of course, you're right, the party had socialist in the title, it had to be left, just like the peoples republic of china, which has the people governing to an extraordinary degree.” - spud meister

Sarcasm doesn’t change the fact that he was a Socialist.

“based on he saw womens role as a traditional one in the home, without the right to vote, strongly enforced social order, extreme homophobia, discouraged pornography, prostitution, cosmetics, alcohol, smoking” - spud meister

Conservative believe:

1. in equality between men and women.
2. that homophobia is stupid.
3. cosmetics, alcohol and smoking are personal choices.

You may also want to consider that:

1. a desire for social order is not unique to Conservatives.
2. prostitution is illegal and the desire to enforce our laws is not unique to Conservatives.

And if you are into porn then that’s your thing…keep it to yourself.

“nope that was the socialist revoltionary party” - spud meister

I'll take your word for it.

“because you seem to be basing your arguments on the name of the nazi party, and i am therefore showing arguments against that contention” - spud meister

See link above.
 
“of course, you're right, the party had socialist in the title, it had to be left, just like the peoples republic of china, which has the people governing to an extraordinary degree.” - spud meister

Sarcasm doesn’t change the fact that he was a Socialist.


“based on he saw womens role as a traditional one in the home, without the right to vote, strongly enforced social order, extreme homophobia, discouraged pornography, prostitution, cosmetics, alcohol, smoking” - spud meister

Conservative believe:

1. in equality between men and women.
2. that homophobia is stupid.
3. cosmetics, alcohol and smoking are personal choices.

You may also want to consider that:

1. a desire for social order is not unique to Conservatives.
2. prostitution is illegal and the desire to enforce our laws is not unique to Conservatives.

And if you are into porn then that’s your thing…keep it to yourself.
you're thinking modern conservatives, in the 30's conservatives were a lot more conservative, they believed in traditional social roles, that homsexuality, drinking and whoreing were immoral, and therefore illegal


“nope that was the socialist revoltionary party” - spud meister

I'll take your word for it.

“because you seem to be basing your arguments on the name of the nazi party, and i am therefore showing arguments against that contention” - spud meister

See link above.


so perhaps you can list how he was socialist, other than the name of his party?
 
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The site stats don't mean much. There are a lot of fake conservatives and liberals here.
 
I feel kinda sad to be in the serious minority here as a moderate
 
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