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Conservatives only: What kind of Conservative are you?

What kind of Conservative are you?

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danarhea said:
I am doing kind of an experiment, in order to see what issues can be common ground to Conservatives of different persuasions. But first, I need to know what brand of Conservatism you wear on your sleeves. There is no right answer here, and this poll is also multiple choice, in that many Conservatives may feel comfortable in more than one category.

Please answer the poll to the best of your ability, and we will go from there. A good explanation of why you chose the way you did would also be helpful.

Thanx.
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I am proud to call myself a conservative.

There are some aspects to most of the 'types' you listed that I am completely comfortable with and some aspects that I am not comfortable with at all.

I am a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism"]Paleocon[/ame]in almost every sense of the word. However, in as much as I am "anti-imperialism" in the general sense,... I do agree with the idea of a 'pre-emptive' use of or show of force against when it can be reasonably justified.

I am a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatives"]Neocon[/ame] in the sense that (as indicated above) I do agree (in principle) with the idea of a pre-emptive use of or show of force to 'liberate' the oppressed people of a state or country. However, I am not "comfortable" with the idea of a "welfare state" as (aparently by the definition) most neocons are.

I am a moderate Conservative, willing to compromise on many of the ways to affect change for the better,... where commonality can be found,... but I refuse to compromise (in any way) on my conservative principles. And I have little to no respect for anyone who does (or are so willing to) compromise on theirs.

I am a Goldwater Conservative, unwilling to compromise - ???

I am a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement"]Tea Party[/ame] Conservative in principle, though I have never attended a Tea party Rally, protest or meeting. Fiscal conservatism and State's rights is a great cause and wonderful thing. But ignoring social issues will not make them go away. The want for conservatives to keep to themselves about social issues (gun rights, abortion, gay marriage, illegal immigration, etc.) will eventually be the downfall of the "tea party movement" (IMHO).

I am a Social Conservative in as much as I oppose elective abortion, the re-defining of marriage and the recreational use of drugs.

I am a Fiscal Conservative - PERIOD!

I am a Libertarian leaning Conservative in as much as I believe in people being completely free to do whatever they want to do,... unless and until a case can be made that they are infringing upon the rights of another and that the government has the right to intervene.

I am a religious Conservative when and where religious teachings intersect or parallel secular lines of reason. However, if a religious value can not be supported with secular lines of reasoning,... it is (in my opinion) Un-Constitutional to pursue it. - Period.

I am a fundamental Constitutionalist - Conservative.
 
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What does a religious conservative mean?

What religion we talking about?

As much as I dislike Social Cons, I do agree with their stigma on never married single parents.
 
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This gives me some more faith in the Republican party because the most popular choice is fiscal conservative, then libertarian and then moderate. (not to mention that religious conservative has only 4 votes :) :) )

If the Republican party followed that (even in that order), then they would be great.
 
obvious Child said:
Not to mention some outright liars.
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I'm confused. Are you implying I'm a liar for saying I'm a quasi-mix of a Paleocon and Libertarian? Or were you thinking I was describing what the poll would show?
 
I'm really glad we actually have people acknowledging neo-conservative leanings. Despite what some people will run around and say, it is still rooted in part in conservative principles. Not entirely, but one could argue libertarianism isn't entirely rooted in it either. There are FAR more members of this forum that adhere to the Neo-Conservative view of the military that is diametrically opposed to the traditional conservative ideas of the military and defense found in paleoconservatism, libertarianism, etc. It strikes me how many people support neo-conservative military policy and yet wouldn't click it. Kudos to those that actually do.
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm really glad we actually have people acknowledging neo-conservative leanings. Despite what some people will run around and say, it is still rooted in part in conservative principles. Not entirely, but one could argue libertarianism isn't entirely rooted in it either. There are FAR more members of this forum that adhere to the Neo-Conservative view of the military that is diametrically opposed to the traditional conservative ideas of the military and defense found in paleoconservatism, libertarianism, etc. It strikes me how many people support neo-conservative military policy and yet wouldn't click it. Kudos to those that actually do.
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Even if neoconservatism is common on this forum, at least from a strong military, this poll certainly doesn't show that very much though. there was almost 3 times as many fiscal conservatives then neoconservatives.
 
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nerv14 said:
Even if neoconservatism is common on this forum, at least from a strong military, this poll certainly doesn't show that very much though. there was almost 3 times as many fiscal conservatives then neoconservatives.
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Which was kind of the point of my post. That Neo-Conservative philosophy, at least in regards to the military, is prevelant with a number of people on this forum including one that continually (a bit laughably imho) calls himself a "libertarian" yet only a small fwe are willing to admit it.

As the poll went on you'll note many people were choosing numerous types not just one. Someone could feel they are fiscally conservative domestically yet neo-conservative when it comes to militaristic power
 
Zyphlin said:
God please don't feed it....
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:rofl:rofl
Now I finally see, after the laughter stops.
I was conservative at one time(voted for Goldwater), now I think I know better.
I'm awaiting the Liberal selections.
 
Zyphlin said:
Which was kind of the point of my post. That Neo-Conservative philosophy, at least in regards to the military, is prevelant with a number of people on this forum including one that continually (a bit laughably imho) calls himself a "libertarian" yet only a small fwe are willing to admit it.

As the poll went on you'll note many people were choosing numerous types not just one. Someone could feel they are fiscally conservative domestically yet neo-conservative when it comes to militaristic power
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ohhhh I see what you are saying.

It is important to note that supporting a strong military (which may not be traditionally conservative) but being against foreign involvements is still different then supporting military interventions with the same strong military.

I personally consider support of military intervenions to be more neoconservative, and just supporting un unused strong military to not be as neoconservative.

I would actually seperate military support of conservatives into 3 groups. Paleo-conservative (weak military and no intervention), contemporary libertarian (strong military, no intervention) and neoconservative (intervention and strong military)
 
nerv14 said:
I would actually seperate military support of conservatives into 3 groups. Paleo-conservative (weak military and no intervention), contemporary libertarian (strong military, no intervention) and neoconservative (intervention and strong military)
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I'm sufficiently confused as to how you figure Paleoconservative ideology calls for a weak military. I would dare say a strong military is a cornerstone of just about every facet of contemporary conservatism, with what said military should be used being the conflicting point.
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm sufficiently confused as to how you figure Paleoconservative ideology calls for a weak military. I would dare say a strong military is a cornerstone of just about every facet of contemporary conservatism, with what said military should be used being the conflicting point.
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When I say paleo-conservative, I am meaning a literal definition of conservatives from some time in the past.

Conservatives such as Harding during the 20's were completely fine to have a very minature military. After WWI the military was practically disbanded because of pushes of conservatives, as compared to Wilson.

Regardless of what name you call them, conservatives immedietly before WWII supported a very small military.

The label we give those "conservatives" (which is also a label) is less important.


but yes, today all conservatives support a strong military, as mainstream liberals also do. but thats another issue.
 
Ahhh...so you're going "paleo" as in old...not necessarily the actual political philosophy term "paleoconservative" which really came into being around the cold war era.
 
Zyphlin said:
Ahhh...so you're going "paleo" as in old...not necessarily the actual political philosophy term "paleoconservative" which really came into being around the cold war era.
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:p

well theres got to be a term for old conservatives, if paleoconservative isn't that, then someone needs to make up something.

I am sure some people on this forum fit into that other type of conservative I am talking about
 
One could go for classical conservatism I guess, however I dare say there's not many people that adhere to the ideologies of the early 1900's for either side of the aisle that likely still considers themselves todays equivilent (IE calls themself a conservative but means it as in "early 1900's conservative)
 
I'm a libertarian-leaning anti-federalist which is probably best described as "other" conservative.
 
Tucker Case said:
I'm a libertarian-leaning anti-federalist which is probably best described as "other" conservative.
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I think you are probably about as close a political match to me as there is on this forum. Other, would be the most appropriate.
 
I picked Libertarian leaning conservative, though I could be a conservative leaning Libertarian.

I break towards what would be a considered a conservative view on several issues most notably abortion (though there are some pro-life libertarians, but it's a minority position), border control (the libertarian ideal of completely open and unregulated borders would be national suicide), and military (I prefer a larger military than most libertarians would and while I'm generally in favor of non-interventionist policies, I don't entirely reject pre-emption).
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm confused. Are you implying I'm a liar for saying I'm a quasi-mix of a Paleocon and Libertarian? Or were you thinking I was describing what the poll would show?
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Sorry about that. I'm not saying you are a liar. I'm saying some of the user who voted themselves as a Conservatives are liars.
 
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