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Do You Support Sarah Palin?

Do You Support Sarah Palin?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 16.8%

  • No

    Votes: 74 77.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 5.3%
  • Total voters
    95
  • Poll closed .
Navy Pride said:
Gore was a joke...Gore actually lost his own state in a presidential election...They are the people who actually know him.....If he would have won there we would have never heard of Florida...
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I really don't know why his losing his home state is such a big shiny thing for your ilk. I mean, Tennessee is a red state. Seems pretty clear he would have difficulty and he did. Go masturbate about it and move on.
 
NoJingoLingo said:
I really don't know why his losing his home state is such a big shiny thing for your ilk. I mean, Tennessee is a red state. Seems pretty clear he would have difficulty and he did. Go masturbate about it and move on.
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Because presidential candidates don't lose their home state. Its the stae where they are most popular and Gore got his butt kicked there...You lefties always complained about Fla. but in truth it was Tenn. that cost him the presidency.......
 
Navy Pride said:
Because presidential candidates don't lose their home state. Its the stae where they are most popular and Gore got his butt kicked there...You lefties always complained about Fla. but in truth it was Tenn. that cost him the presidency.......
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Name ↓ Election Year ↓ Party ↓ Birth State ↓ Resident State ↓
William Henry Harrison 1840 Whig Lost Virginia Won Ohio
James Knox Polk 1844 Democrat Lost North Carolina Lost Tennessee
Abraham Lincoln 1860 Republican Lost Kentucky Won Illinois
Abraham Lincoln 1864 Republican Lost Kentucky Won Illinois
Woodrow Wilson 1916 Democratic Won Virginia Lost New Jersey
Richard Nixon 1968 Republican Won California Lost New York
George H. W. Bush 1988 Republican Lost Massachusetts Won Texas
George W. Bush 2000 Republican Lost Connecticut Won Texas
George W. Bush 2004 Republican Lost Connecticut Won Texas

Name ↓ Election Year ↓ Party ↓ Birth State ↓ Resident State ↓
Martin Van Buren 1840 Democrat Lost New York Lost New York
Henry Clay 1844 Whig Lost Virginia Won Kentucky
Winfield Scott 1852 Whig Lost Virginia Lost New Jersey
John C. Frémont 1856 Republican Lost Georgia Lost California
Stephen A. Douglas 1860 Democrat Lost Vermont Lost Illinois
George B. McClellan 1864 Democrat Lost Pennsylvania Won New Jersey
Horace Greeley 1872 Democrat Lost Massachusetts Lost New York
Winfield Scott Hancock 1880 Democrat Lost Pennsylvania Lost Pennsylvania
Grover Cleveland 1888 Democrat Won New Jersey Lost New York
Benjamin Harrison 1892 Republican Won Ohio Lost Indiana
William Jennings Bryan 1896 Democrat-Populist Lost Illinois Won Nebraska
William Jennings Bryan 1900 Democrat-Populist Lost Illinois Lost Nebraska
Alton B. Parker 1904 Democrat Lost New York Lost New York
William Jennings Bryan 1908 Democrat Lost Illinois Won Nebraska
Theodore Roosevelt 1912 Progressive Lost New York Lost New York
William Howard Taft 1912 Republican Lost Ohio Lost Ohio
James M. Cox 1920 Democrat Lost Ohio Lost Ohio
John W. Davis 1924 Democrat Lost West Virginia Lost New York
Al Smith 1928 Democrat Lost New York Lost New York
Herbert Hoover 1932 Republican Lost Iowa Lost California
Alf Landon 1936 Republican Lost Pennsylvania Lost Kansas
Thomas E. Dewey 1944 Republican Lost Michigan Lost New York
Adlai Stevenson 1952 Democrat Lost California Lost Illinois
Adlai Stevenson 1956 Democrat Lost California Lost Illinois
Hubert Humphrey 1968 Democrat Lost South Dakota Won Minnesota
George McGovern 1972 Democrat Lost South Dakota Lost South Dakota
George H. W. Bush 1992 Republican Lost Massachusetts Won Texas
Al Gore 2000 Democrat Won District of Columbia Lost Tennessee
John Kerry 2004 Democrat Lost Colorado Won Massachusetts

Seems like quite a few presidential candidates lost their home or birth state.
 
I don't think it's that big of a deal that Gore lost his home state. I mean, his opinion and his state's popular opinion did differ so why would they vote for him?
 
PogueMoran said:
Name ↓ Election Year ↓ Party ↓ Birth State ↓ Resident State ↓
William Henry Harrison 1840 Whig Lost Virginia Won Ohio
James Knox Polk 1844 Democrat Lost North Carolina Lost Tennessee
Abraham Lincoln 1860 Republican Lost Kentucky Won Illinois
Abraham Lincoln 1864 Republican Lost Kentucky Won Illinois
Woodrow Wilson 1916 Democratic Won Virginia Lost New Jersey
Richard Nixon 1968 Republican Won California Lost New York
George H. W. Bush 1988 Republican Lost Massachusetts Won Texas
George W. Bush 2000 Republican Lost Connecticut Won Texas
George W. Bush 2004 Republican Lost Connecticut Won Texas

Name ↓ Election Year ↓ Party ↓ Birth State ↓ Resident State ↓
Martin Van Buren 1840 Democrat Lost New York Lost New York
Henry Clay 1844 Whig Lost Virginia Won Kentucky
Winfield Scott 1852 Whig Lost Virginia Lost New Jersey
John C. Frémont 1856 Republican Lost Georgia Lost California
Stephen A. Douglas 1860 Democrat Lost Vermont Lost Illinois
George B. McClellan 1864 Democrat Lost Pennsylvania Won New Jersey
Horace Greeley 1872 Democrat Lost Massachusetts Lost New York
Winfield Scott Hancock 1880 Democrat Lost Pennsylvania Lost Pennsylvania
Grover Cleveland 1888 Democrat Won New Jersey Lost New York
Benjamin Harrison 1892 Republican Won Ohio Lost Indiana
William Jennings Bryan 1896 Democrat-Populist Lost Illinois Won Nebraska
William Jennings Bryan 1900 Democrat-Populist Lost Illinois Lost Nebraska
Alton B. Parker 1904 Democrat Lost New York Lost New York
William Jennings Bryan 1908 Democrat Lost Illinois Won Nebraska
Theodore Roosevelt 1912 Progressive Lost New York Lost New York
William Howard Taft 1912 Republican Lost Ohio Lost Ohio
James M. Cox 1920 Democrat Lost Ohio Lost Ohio
John W. Davis 1924 Democrat Lost West Virginia Lost New York
Al Smith 1928 Democrat Lost New York Lost New York
Herbert Hoover 1932 Republican Lost Iowa Lost California
Alf Landon 1936 Republican Lost Pennsylvania Lost Kansas
Thomas E. Dewey 1944 Republican Lost Michigan Lost New York
Adlai Stevenson 1952 Democrat Lost California Lost Illinois
Adlai Stevenson 1956 Democrat Lost California Lost Illinois
Hubert Humphrey 1968 Democrat Lost South Dakota Won Minnesota
George McGovern 1972 Democrat Lost South Dakota Lost South Dakota
George H. W. Bush 1992 Republican Lost Massachusetts Won Texas
Al Gore 2000 Democrat Won District of Columbia Lost Tennessee
John Kerry 2004 Democrat Lost Colorado Won Massachusetts

Seems like quite a few presidential candidates lost their home or birth state.
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I don't give a **** about their birth Place.........Just the state they ran for office in and were elected......I am not going back 200 years but

Kerry Won Mass
McCain won Arizona
Bush won texas twice
Reagan WonCalifornia twice
Nixon won California
Johnson won Texas
Kennedy won Mass.......
Truman won Missouri
Roosevelt won NY
Humphery Won Minn
Carter won Ga


GORE LOST TENN

Candidates win the state they run from
 
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Navy Pride said:
I don't give a **** about their birth Place.........Just the state they ran for office in and were elected......I am not going back 200 years but

Kerry Won Mass
McCain won Arizon
Bush won texas twice
Reagan WonCalifornia twice
Nixon won California
Johnson won Texas
Kennedy won Mass.......
Truman won Missouri
Roosevelt won NY


GORE LOST TENN
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Why does Gore losing Tennessee matter? He has opposing view points to the popular opinion in the state so why would they vote for him? No one made a big deal out of Texas not voting for Obama yet it's the same situation. His opinions and the state's popular opinions were different. Him being from the state is irrelevant.
 
Navy Pride said:
I don't give a **** about their birth Place.........Just the state they ran for office in and were elected......I am not going back 200 years but

Kerry Won Mass
McCain won Arizon
Bush won texas twice
Reagan WonCalifornia twice
Nixon won California
Johnson won Texas
Kennedy won Mass.......
Truman won Missouri
Roosevelt won NY


GORE LOST TENN
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You don't have to go back 200 years McGovern lost his home state, Nixon lost New York. New York was his official residency. You said presidential candidates don't lose their homestate well its pretty obvious some have despite your contentions.
 
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pro-bipartisan said:
Why does Gore losing Tennessee matter? He has opposing view points to the popular opinion in the state so why would they vote for him? No one made a big deal out of Texas not voting for Obama yet it's the same situation. His opinions and the state's popular opinions were different. Him being from the state is irrelevant.
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He was elected Senator from Tenn a bunch of times as was his dad.....He entered politics from Tenn.
 
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PogueMoran said:
You don't have to go back 200 years McGovern lost his home state, Nixon lost New York. New York was his official residency. You said presidential candidates don't lose their homestate well its pretty obvious some have despite your contentions.
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I am saying the vast majority do not..........
 
Navy Pride said:
He was elected Senator from Tenn a bunch of times as was his dad.....He entered politics from Tenn.
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You still have yet to explain why it is so bad that a state with a dissenting opinion didn't vote for him. Do you expect a state that disagrees with someone to vote for them?
 
Navy Pride said:
I am saying the vast majority do not..........
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So you're moving goalposts now. Before you said presidents don't lose their homestate. You were trying to make some relevant point here.
 
Navy Pride said:
He was elected Senator from Tenn a bunch of times as was his dad.....He entered politics from Tenn.
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Pappy Bush's dad was a longtime Senator from CT. The Bush family was well known in CT that's not a state he should have lost. We're using your metric here
 
pro-bipartisan said:
You still have yet to explain why it is so bad that a state with a dissenting opinion didn't vote for him. Do you expect a state that disagrees with someone to vote for them?
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His dad was a senator from Tenn. for 30 years........He was a senator from Tenn. for 20 years getting re elected from there over and over again.....The people of Tenn are his constituents.......I really don't know how else to explain it to you.......You should win your home state......
 
PogueMoran said:
Pappy Bush's dad was a longtime Senator from CT. The Bush family was well known in CT that's not a state he should have lost. We're using your metric here
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In 88 My bush hating from Bush senior won Conn...... In 92 Perot screwed up th whole election causing Bush to lose........

Oh by the way Clinton was from Arkansas and carried it twice.......

You can find exceptions to every rule my left wing friend but generally someone running for prez usually wins his home state........
 
Navy Pride said:
His dad was a senator from Tenn. for 30 years........He was a senator from Tenn. for 20 years getting re elected from there over and over again.....The people of Tenn are his constituents.......I really don't know how else to explain it to you.......You should win your home state......
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Repeating yourself over and over again isn't explaining. I don't expect people to vote for someone who has different opinions than them, do you?
 
Navy Pride said:
In 88 My bush hating from Bush senior won Conn...... In 92 Perot screwed up th whole election causing Bush to lose........

Oh by the way Clinton was from Arkansas and carried it twice.......

You can find exceptions to every rule my left wing friend but generally someone running for prez usually wins his home state........
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There's nothing to say Perot's votes in CT wouldn't have swung either way. CT is a state Bush Sr should have carried regardless. Nice try my extremist friend but I'm not left wing.

Not finding exceptions. You made a statement emphatically and it was wrong.

Look at the states Clinton carried many of them were southern states
 
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PogueMoran said:
There's nothing to say Perot's votes in CT wouldn't have swung either way. CT is a state Bush Sr should have carried regardless. Nice try my extremist friend but I'm not left wing.

Not finding exceptions. You made a statement emphatically and it was wrong.

Look at the states Clinton carried many of them were southern states
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Perot took votes away from Bush 1 allowing Slick Willie to win the presidency in 1992...

Clinton was from the south, it makes semse that he would win Southern states........Now lets get back on topic..thanks
 
pro-bipartisan said:
Repeating yourself over and over again isn't explaining. I don't expect people to vote for someone who has different opinions than them, do you?
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Well why did the good people of Tenn. vote for Gore over all those years.....In fact when he ran for Prez he was a seated Senator from Tenn....
 
Navy Pride said:
Perot took votes away from Bush 1 allowing Slick Willie to win the presidency in 1992...

Clinton was from the south, it makes semse that he would win Southern states........Now lets get back on topic..thanks
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Unless you personally interviewed those perot voters there's nothing to say that those voters would have swung either way or just stayed home.
 
Navy Pride said:
Well why did the good people of Tenn. vote for Gore over all those years.....In fact when he ran for Prez he was a seated Senator from Tenn....
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They probably voted for him because he was helping their state. Maybe they thought his policies as President wouldn't help the country.
 
PogueMoran said:
Unless you personally interviewed those perot voters there's nothing to say that those voters would have swung either way or just stayed home.
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You know what and exit poll is? The percentages of how people voted in 1992 are public info.......Never mind your not worth the trouble......
 
Navy Pride said:
Way to add something constructive to the debate.....That is the most intelligent comment you have made since you have been a member here........
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Yeah, its so good, its better then anything you've ever said either :2wave:
 
Navy Pride said:
You know what and exit poll is? The percentages of how people voted in 1992 are public info.......Never mind your not worth the trouble......
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Yeah I know what an exit poll is and the public information shows that Perot siphoned votes equally from Clinton and Bush. Don't let the facts get in your way though.
 
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