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Gays in the military (its anonymous)

Openly gay personnel in the army?

  • Yes - im cool with that

    Votes: 54 79.4%
  • No - never again will i pick up the soap

    Votes: 9 13.2%
  • Other - explain

    Votes: 5 7.4%

  • Total voters
    68

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Voice your true thoughts here. This poll is anonymous so you can vote no if you choose so, obviously, as you are entitled to but please try and post an explanation too and why you think its important such a law is or isn't allowed.

Lastly, wouldn't people who dislike gays want them in the army? Its the best way to kill them off.

Vote!
 
There's no poll. :mrgreen: But I support the repeal of don't ask/don't tell. And so does my boyfriend, who is in the Navy reserves.
 
You posted early thats why, check now.
 
I'm entirely fine with gays in the military, there have always been gays, there will always be gays, they deserve to be able to serve their country just like anyone else.

Frankly, the reason lots of people have given, that the military is too butch to deal with it, is a fairly pathetic excuse. The fact that lots of military men (and women too, I suppose) are homophobic is a sign of their immaturity and emotional stagnation, certainly not something to be proud of.
 
I'm entirely fine with gays in the military, there have always been gays, there will always be gays, they deserve to be able to serve their country just like anyone else.

Frankly, the reason lots of people have given, that the military is too butch to deal with it, is a fairly pathetic excuse. The fact that lots of military men (and women too, I suppose) are homophobic is a sign of their immaturity and emotional stagnation, certainly not something to be proud of.

Great post, I wholeheartedly agree (I thought just thanking you was insufficient).
 
I don't see what the fuss is. In fact, I look forward to seeing the military allow gay marriage as a normal thing hopefully within the next 10 years. This would be a sign of progress.
 
***** The reason Barry is raising this issue again - like NOW - is because he is reeling from other issues and even has the Leftist base that initially got him going in 2007 disillusioned - so he throws them a little bit of Social Progress or Social Engineering . Short haul little impact - Long haul counterproductive.

***** In 1993 then JCS Chief Colin Powell advised the then new President Bill Clinton about implementing this . Clinton backed away . Yesterday Powell mentioned that things and times hasd changed:roll:


***** Was this a reflection on Manpwer or a reluctance to bring up a NO Win issue that will hurt Obama with some ????? Powell's late endorsement of Obama one Sunday in 2008 is remembered for the lowclass act it clearly was and yesterdays reversal on this subject naturally brings on suspicion.
 
I'm grateful that Barack Obama is finally delivering on this campaign promise. It's definitely time, and most Americans support this, even though some are still stuck in the fear of the dark ages.
 
I forget the source, but I was searching data in another thread on this topic, and learned that there is an estimated over 1 million gay veterans alive in this country, who have served since Korea. Gays are already in the military. We should encourage all people to serve, and to take pride in both their service, and who they are.
 
***** Once being Gay is okayed by the Military THEN it brings up other issues like Housing for example. Sure some Gays have been in the Military always and others who are not Gay take an easy discharge after a year or so by allowing themselves to be Classified as Homosexual - but IF attraction to Same Sex is OK and people live in close confines - then WHY NOT both sex's together all the time (??)


****** In the past 3 decades more problems than revealed have taken place in the Military from the inclusion of larger & larger amounts of Women . Men with Good careers got tempted and cashiered because of it YEYT now we put open individuals admitting their attracted to some they live in close confines with - but that's just fine:shock:


***** No way this gets digested easily - and more and more will get covered up.
 
***** Once being Gay is okayed by the Military THEN it brings up other issues like Housing for example. Sure some Gays have been in the Military always and others who are not Gay take an easy discharge after a year or so by allowing themselves to be Classified as Homosexual - but IF attraction to Same Sex is OK and people live in close confines - then WHY NOT both sex's together all the time (??)

The military managed to work this out with females and blacks, I'm sure they'll manage. They're big boys (and girls) for the most part.


****** In the past 3 decades more problems than revealed have taken place in the Military from the inclusion of larger & larger amounts of Women . Men with Good careers got tempted and cashiered because of it YEYT now we put open individuals admitting their attracted to some they live in close confines with - but that's just fine:shock:

LMFAO. Poor men who couldn't keep their penises in their pants because of Evil WOMEN who tempted them. Perhaps Burkhas should be standard issue female military garb.
 
***** To many (and it's grown since the early 70's) who are mostly on one side in this issue - the very understanding of being in the Military - or going in Harms Way or having to deal with certain matters is totally beyond their understanding . It's like giving them a Chinese Newspaper and expecting a synopsis an hour later:shock:

**** They cannot even begin to comprehend how this could be counterproductive eventually.
 
I don't see why would that be a problem, as long as they get separated showers and as long as they receive a role that individually suits them(both mentally and physically).

Shouldn't be a problem at all.
 
***** Once being Gay is okayed by the Military THEN it brings up other issues like Housing for example. Sure some Gays have been in the Military always and others who are not Gay take an easy discharge after a year or so by allowing themselves to be Classified as Homosexual - but IF attraction to Same Sex is OK and people live in close confines - then WHY NOT both sex's together all the time (??)

Slippery slope arguments suck. If you cannot understand the difference between a woman and a gay man, or a man and a gay woman, you are hopeless.


****** In the past 3 decades more problems than revealed have taken place in the Military from the inclusion of larger & larger amounts of Women . Men with Good careers got tempted and cashiered because of it YEYT now we put open individuals admitting their attracted to some they live in close confines with - but that's just fine:shock:

Those men who got cashiered got so because of their own actions. Let's not blame the victim. There are rules in place to handle unwanted attention, this is not going to change.

***** No way this gets digested easily - and more and more will get covered up.

Got your tin foil hat handy?
 
***** To many (and it's grown since the early 70's) who are mostly on one side in this issue - the very understanding of being in the Military - or going in Harms Way or having to deal with certain matters is totally beyond their understanding . It's like giving them a Chinese Newspaper and expecting a synopsis an hour later:shock:

**** They cannot even begin to comprehend how this could be counterproductive eventually.

Hi. I am a veteran. I have done my war. I do understand. I think gays in the military is a good idea.
 
**** They cannot even begin to comprehend how this could be counterproductive eventually.
**** Why won't you elaborate on your opinion and explain how exactly would it be counterproductive.

**** It would be very productive to our understanding of your position.
 
**** Why won't you elaborate on your opinion and explain how exactly would it be counterproductive.

**** It would be very productive to our understanding of your position.

******I wonder if Zinc actually served.
 
***** Once being Gay is okayed by the Military THEN it brings up other issues like Housing for example. Sure some Gays have been in the Military always and others who are not Gay take an easy discharge after a year or so by allowing themselves to be Classified as Homosexual - but IF attraction to Same Sex is OK and people live in close confines - then WHY NOT both sex's together all the time (??)

OK so lets put the lesbians with the men. :doh
Do you think sexual preference is the only reason why men/women are not grouped?


****** In the past 3 decades more problems than revealed have taken place in the Military from the inclusion of larger & larger amounts of Women . Men with Good careers got tempted and cashiered because of it YEYT now we put open individuals admitting their attracted to some they live in close confines with - but that's just fine:shock:

Attraction to what?
Do you think because somebody is gay they therefore must be attracted to all men? Do you live in a confined space with women?
 
There are and always have been gays in the military. The only issue is do you require them to lie or is it ok to tell the truth. Period.
 
I wouldn't personally have a problem serving alongside a gay person.
 
Also the fact you believe gays/straight should be separated shows that you do not believe gay men are true men, which actually shows your ignorance. Why don't you complain to the generals how lesbian soldiers should be with the men? Do you think a gay guy is any less capable of physical stamina than you, as a straight? Do you think gay men poses a threat to you as a straight? Where are the women complaining when they are in confined spaces or anywhere near men? Or does this only apply to gays?
 
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then WHY NOT both sex's together all the time?

I don't know. That seems kinda silly to me too.

In the theatre, quickchanges often require that one change in the wings. These wings are shared by straight guys, straight girls, gay guys, and lesbians. Amazingly, the world does not implode, no one gets raped, and the show goes on.

I am not sure why this should be such a difficult task for military personnel. Are you suggesting that thesbians are simply made of sterner stuff than our soldiers?
 
I don't know. That seems kinda silly to me too.

In the theatre, quickchanges often require that one change in the wings. These wings are shared by straight guys, straight girls, gay guys, and lesbians. Amazingly, the world does not implode, no one gets raped, and the show goes on.

Are you 100% sure about this statement.............?











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