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Does the media really have a liberal bias?

Is there a liberal media bias?

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NoJingoLingo said:
Were I a person who likes to be obtuse like *cough* some posters *cough cough* I would swear there is no liberal bone in my body, there are just bone bones. Then I would either split or make some disparaging remark about the other side and then split.

Instead I'll admit that I am a moderate social libertarian. For those that need more 'splainin', I have liberal and covservative "bones".

You have problems understanding or you're paranoid or you're just not that smart. The posts from you that I've seen are usually one liners so it's difficult to judge.

To your post. I challenged people to see if the media has informed them of at least 4 things Obama has done that are good. If most people can name off 4, then the media has been telling them that Obama has done "good" things enough times for them to remember. This would be a good indicator of liberal bias. Repeating accomplishments of a democrat president would show liberal bias. If the 4 answers were fairly different between posters this would indicate that the media has not only been repetitive, but repetitive on many accomplishments.

However... if people can't name at least 4 then...
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I said 'No', and answered with 4 items. What did my answer prove/suggest? :)
 
There is certainly bias. It's unavoidable and part of human nature. The way we view the world is colored by our experiences.

A small bit is a result of advocates masquerading as journalists and an active pursuit of bias.

But for the most part it's not some grand master planned conspiratorial pursuit.

It is a result of the dominant world view at any one particular media outlet, which frames the perspective of those bringing stories to air and that necessarily imparts relative degrees of importance to different stories as a result of their world view.

Left-wingers will tend to think certain stories or angles on a story are more important to cover than others and the same for right-wingers. As such they, respectively, tend to focus on those particular events and happenings or select angle on those stories they see as the most important to cover.
 
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ScummyD said:
There is certainly bias. It's unavoidable and part of human nature. The way we view the world is colored by our experiences.

A small bit is a result of advocates masquerading as journalists and an active pursuit of bias.

But for the most part it's not some grand master planned conspiratorial pursuit.

It is a result of the dominant world view at any one particular media outlet, which frames the perspective of those bringing stories to air and that necessarily imparts relative degrees of importance to different stories as a result of their world view.

Left-wingers will tend to think certain stories or angles on a story are more important to cover than others and the same for right-wingers. As such they, respectively, tend to focus on those particular events and happenings or select angle on those stories they see as the most important to cover.
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I would tend to agree

Many journalists become journalists out of a social activism ideal, rather then the goal of making tons of money

Social activists are most likely going to focus on societal hardships that are generally tangible. Meaning someone getting shot by a gun is going to get more press and sympathy then someone complaining about the government taking their guns away ( dead or injured person vs someone complaining)

But when it comes to interest that are important to the large corporations they will interfere with the editorial content and not let content that will hurt their long term interests.

So for minor issues, the press is going to most likely lean liberal, for major issues, corporate interests will prevail, and corporate issues tend not to be liberal. This stands for all but indepedent news sources of which only some newspapers existsl. No TV news is of that group excepting PBS, and neither does the majority of Radio news
 
Not that it has anything to do with media bias, but four things Obama has done well:

1. He has made some good appointments. More bad than good ones, but he has made some good ones.

2. He did operate in good faith to support the orginal TARP bill. The evidence is still out whether it in fact did prevent the economic collapse that it was supposed to prevent, but I give him props for acting in good faith at the time.

3. He did give a tax break of sorts to millions of Americans and while this was nowhere nearly enough to be an economic stimulus, I give any politicians kudos for allowing the people to spend their own money on their own behalf.

4. He sets a good example by being a good dad to his girls and he is respectful of his wife.


Now then, returning the topic to media bias, please name four things for which the mainstream media has said President Obama has done wrong.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Yes it does

Fox, GE, Microsoft, Westinghouse, Clearchannel, Disney, and Timewarner are all liberal basitions of anti military pro socialism ideology

Lets not get started on talk radio and how it is such a strong proponent of liberal thought. It makes the ivory towers of Universities look like AEI or the Heritage Foundation
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Oh look another Colbert. :roll:
 
Dav said:
90% of journalists are Democrats. That's just a fact. And bias is going to be present no matter what.
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Do you have a source for that stat? And if it's true, why do you think that is?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
the the corporporate owners of the media are leftist scum that push their socialist big government agenda through the media channels they own and control. Why else would they hire democratic journalists and push a liberal bias
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So Roger Ailes is a liberal scum?

Ownership Chart: The Big Six | Free Press

THe link shows the 6 large corporations that control the media. Is it your position that the CEOs of these 6 are liberals pushing liberal ideology?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Fox News and MSNBC are both owned by large conglomerates, just as the rest of the major media sources in the US except for PBS.

And we all know how socialist large conglomerates are. Pushing more taxes and more governmental control, in order to reduce profits
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No I don't think we all do know how socialist large conglomerates are. Please explain it to us.
 
ScummyD said:
There is certainly bias. It's unavoidable and part of human nature. The way we view the world is colored by our experiences.

A small bit is a result of advocates masquerading as journalists and an active pursuit of bias.

But for the most part it's not some grand master planned conspiratorial pursuit.

It is a result of the dominant world view at any one particular media outlet, which frames the perspective of those bringing stories to air and that necessarily imparts relative degrees of importance to different stories as a result of their world view.

Left-wingers will tend to think certain stories or angles on a story are more important to cover than others and the same for right-wingers. As such they, respectively, tend to focus on those particular events and happenings or select angle on those stories they see as the most important to cover.
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That's a well thought out and explained position. I agree with it. But what we are really talking about is the conspiracy that the media is pushing left wing bias. You know, the kinds that Rush and most cons bitch about.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Many journalists become journalists out of a social activism ideal, rather then the goal of making tons of money
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Please provide the source for this. Don't bother with any other excuse or commentary, either provide the source or admit you made it up.

Social activists are most likely going to focus on societal hardships that are generally tangible. Meaning someone getting shot by a gun is going to get more press and sympathy then someone complaining about the government taking their guns away ( dead or injured person vs someone complaining)
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Nonsense. The "television media" is out for ratings and sensationalism gets more coverage than anything regardless of its content.

But when it comes to interest that are important to the large corporations they will interfere with the editorial content and not let content that will hurt their long term interests.
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This is true.

So for minor issues, the press is going to most likely lean liberal, for major issues, corporate interests will prevail, and corporate issues tend not to be liberal. This stands for all but indepedent news sources of which only some newspapers existsl. No TV news is of that group excepting PBS, and neither does the majority of Radio news
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Interesting hypothesis but factless.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Not that it has anything to do with media bias, but four things Obama has done well:

1. He has made some good appointments. More bad than good ones, but he has made some good ones.

2. He did operate in good faith to support the orginal TARP bill. The evidence is still out whether it in fact did prevent the economic collapse that it was supposed to prevent, but I give him props for acting in good faith at the time.

3. He did give a tax break of sorts to millions of Americans and while this was nowhere nearly enough to be an economic stimulus, I give any politicians kudos for allowing the people to spend their own money on their own behalf.

4. He sets a good example by being a good dad to his girls and he is respectful of his wife.


Now then, returning the topic to media bias, please name four things for which the mainstream media has said President Obama has done wrong.
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Make you own thread for that, don't muck up this one which is not about 4 things Obama has done wrong.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Fox News and MSNBC are both owned by large conglomerates, just as the rest of the major media sources in the US except for PBS.

And we all know how socialist large conglomerates are. Pushing more taxes and more governmental control, in order to reduce profits
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Okay, now you're saying that businesses want taxes, and governmental control? And businesses are socialist? I think you have something backwards.
 
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