Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

Does castration prevent a person from getting an erection, or just from ---well you know.

In my opinion, child molesters (people who have repeatedly sexually abused young children under the age of pubescence) should never be released from prison. We do not have an effective treatment modality for ensuring that child molesters do not repeat their offenses, and their crime causes horrific emotional and physical damage to the victims that often cannot be repaired.

In some ways, child molestation is worse than homicide because the victims suffer the effects of the crime forever. The victim of a homicide suffers briefly and then doesn't suffer anymore.

Catz Part Deux said:

In my opinion, child molesters (people who have repeatedly sexually abused young children under the age of pubescence) should never be released from prison. We do not have an effective treatment modality for ensuring that child molesters do not repeat their offenses, and their crime causes horrific emotional and physical damage to the victims that often cannot be repaired.

In some ways, child molestation is worse than homicide because the victims suffer the effects of the crime forever. The victim of a homicide suffers briefly and then doesn't suffer anymore.

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We probably should create special prisons just for sex offenders. Put them all together and lock them up for life.

USA-1 said:

We probably should create special prisons just for sex offenders. Put them all together and lock them up for life.

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I think locking them up in the general population of a maximum security prison with other lifers should be sufficient,there is no need to create a special prison for them.

Catz Part Deux said:

In my opinion, child molesters (people who have repeatedly sexually abused young children under the age of pubescence) should never be released from prison. We do not have an effective treatment modality for ensuring that child molesters do not repeat their offenses, and their crime causes horrific emotional and physical damage to the victims that often cannot be repaired.

In some ways, child molestation is worse than homicide because the victims suffer the effects of the crime forever. The victim of a homicide suffers briefly and then doesn't suffer anymore.

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^^ This.

No need to resort to castration chemical or otherwise. Just keep them in jail for life. Child rapists are a threat to the most vulnerable elements of society and that threat should be removed, permanently.

Toothpicvic said:

This sounds like a good idea to me. I think that all convicted child molesters should receive mandatory castration in addition to their prison sentences. I don't know why we aren't doing this. I've heard that sometimes pedophiles get offered castration as a way to reduce their sentence, but **** that. Just castrate all of them I say.

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They would love you in Saudi Arabia.

spud_meister said:

what about the offenders family?

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The offender family has no say whatsoever. That's my justice. It's a good thing I'm not a judge, no?

Korimyr the Rat said:

That's why you only perform the procedure at the end of the prison term, so that they have time for their appeals and to lobby for an exception to be made. It is, as you say, the same as capital punishment.

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Some innocent people finish their sentences. One doesn't have to do with the others.

No, simply because it wouldn't do anything, any more than it would stop rapists from raping. It's a power-game, not necessarily a sexual thing. Take away their ability to have sexual power and they'll just go at it a different way. There are plenty of cases where people have been castrated and still continue to rape or molest because that's the way their minds are miswired.

Skateguy said:

Does castration prevent a person from getting an erection, or just from ---well you know.

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It doesn't always prevent sexual urges or erections or orgasm or ejaculation. A eunuch can have a normal sex life, especially if given hormone therapy. The testicles are responsible for testosterone production, which is a factor in all these things, but obviously not the only factor. The only thing castration really prevents is pregnancy.

Toothpicvic said:

This sounds like a good idea to me. I think that all convicted child molesters should receive mandatory castration in addition to their prison sentences. I don't know why we aren't doing this. I've heard that sometimes pedophiles get offered castration as a way to reduce their sentence, but **** that. Just castrate all of them I say.

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I agree with you completely, and anyone that REALLY cares about the welfare of children should agree with you. The fact that numerous repeat sex offendors often do worse, kidnap and kill the poor child, is one too many times for me. Children are completely defenseless. Someone has to make a stand to protect them.

azura28 said:

Children are completely defenseless. Someone has to make a stand to protect them.

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We should protect them by permanently incarcerating child molesters, rather than giving them an opportunity to access new victims in the community.

azura28 said:

I agree with you completely, and anyone that REALLY cares about the welfare of children should agree with you.

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So if someone disagrees with your moral stance, which biologically doesn't work, that proves they don't care about the welfare of children? No.

Tsunami said:

So if someone disagrees with your moral stance, which biologically doesn't work, that proves they don't care about the welfare of children? No.

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Seriously. Castration will not solve the problem of child molestation. It's a "feel good" measure with little rational thought behind it.

Sure it would feel good to cut the penis off someone who rapes little girls. Are you going to cut off his fingers, hands, lips, and tongue, too?

And, what about women who molest little boys? Going to cut off their breasts?

Toothpicvic said:

This sounds like a good idea to me. I think that all convicted child molesters should receive mandatory castration in addition to their prison sentences. I don't know why we aren't doing this. I've heard that sometimes pedophiles get offered castration as a way to reduce their sentence, but **** that. Just castrate all of them I say.

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I'm pretty sure that would fall under cruel and unusual punishment.

Catz Part Deux said:

Seriously. Castration will not solve the problem of child molestation.

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Yep, showing porn to a child is also child molestation, I don't see how castration would prevent this. lol

But then, there is a curious reluctance here to specify offenses and different types of offenders, though there is agreement, from some posters at least, that there are significant differences.

Tsunami said:

So if someone disagrees with your moral stance, which biologically doesn't work, that proves they don't care about the welfare of children? No.

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And don't forget those who are accused and convicted of child molestation but are innocent. Not everybody who's in jail is guilty of the crime they are imprisoned for.

roderic said:

Yep, showing porn to a child is also child molestation, I don't see how castration would prevent this. lol

But then, there is a curious reluctance here to specify offenses and different types of offenders, though there is agreement, from some posters at least, that there are significant differences.

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I think that for me, at least, there is a difference between molesting a small child and having sex with a 15-year-old. The one should result in automatic permanent incarceration, because it represents pedophilia, which I don't believe we've discovered a way to cure. The other is...more debateable.

My grandmother was married to my grandfather when she was 16 and he was 27. No one considered that child molestation, though by today's law, it would/could be.

Catz Part Deux said:

I think that for me, at least, there is a difference between molesting a small child and having sex with a 15-year-old.

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Absolutely.

The one should result in automatic permanent incarceration, because it represents pedophilia, which I don't believe we've discovered a way to cure. The other is...more debateable.

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Almost.
Having sex with a prepubescent does by itself not meet the criteria for pedophilia (in the clinical sense which you are referring to), one would need a psychological assessment to establish this, it could be a crime of opportunity.
An important distinction in that a pedo is to be regarded as a repeat offender by default.

My grandmother was married to my grandfather when she was 16 and he was 27. No one considered that child molestation, though by today's law, it would/could be.

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That's what I was thinking of!
Castration? I don't think so, that's absurd.

samsmart said:

And don't forget those who are accused and convicted of child molestation but are innocent. Not everybody who's in jail is guilty of the crime they are imprisoned for.

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I'm somewhat tired of this reasoning.

You're really suggesting that we should go light on the offenders for the sake of the few who might have been falsely accused and found guilty?

So for the sake of a few - we should take it easy on the many?

It's always unfair when the wrong person is tossed in the clink - but I can't bring myself to let them go loose just because it happens.

Instead, we should make more adequate efforts to ensure that the wrong are not convicted - and we're making significant progress in that way with improvements in our crime fighting technology.

But to suggest that we should go light on the many because of some few, rare mistakes is too much.

Aunt Spiker said:

I'm somewhat tired of this reasoning.

You're really suggesting that we should go light on the offenders for the sake of the few who might have been falsely accused and found guilty?

So for the sake of a few - we should take it easy on the many?

It's always unfair when the wrong person is tossed in the clink - but I can't bring myself to let them go loose just because it happens.

Instead, we should make more adequate efforts to ensure that the wrong are not convicted - and we're making significant progress in that way with improvements in our crime fighting technology.

But to suggest that we should go light on the many because of some few, rare mistakes is too much.

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I don't think we should go light on them, but I do think we might want to avoid irreversible things like execution and castration until the court system actually starts to get things right.

Catz Part Deux said:

My grandmother was married to my grandfather when she was 16 and he was 27. No one considered that child molestation, though by today's law, it would/could be.

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That was a different time, though. Back in those days, the educational and occupational opportunities of women were MUCH more limited than they are now. Most women were expected to get married and be a homemaker for their husband and a rear their children. This was more especially so in rural areas than it was in urban areas; urban women could be expected to work a job while the children were at school to help pay the bills, while rural women were expected to take care of the household chores while the husband worked the farm. Even though urban women held down jobs, it was rare for them to be promoted to higher positions.

Because of this, women were generally married off to a man in their teenage years. It was done so their parents wouldn't have to keep paying for their food and boarding. Also, teenage girls were married to older men who had enough wealth to keep a household and pay for their food and shelter. Younger men of the same age were generally too poor to provide a family of their own, and so women's fathers would be reluctant to give their blessing to such a marriage.

Things have changed DRASTICALLY since then. Nowadays, both men and women are expected to go to college and university and to get careers of their own. Rather than acting as a family unit, a couple can have an independent life of their own. The same expectations that were put on men during that time is now also put on women in our time.

There's also the issue of power between a husband and wife. In those days, it could be argued that women had little formal power in a marriage. For example, it was always the husband who is the head of a household. Nowadays, though, women posses much more power, and therefore more independence, from men. This is one reason why "cougars," older women who date and have sex with younger men, is so prevalent in our society.

What about the wrongfully convicted dudes?

Tsunami said:

I don't think we should go light on them, but I do think we might want to avoid irreversible things like execution and castration until the court system actually starts to get things right.

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But how 'broken' is the system? (I searched but couldn't nail down statistics on this) - just how many people are being falsely convicted? (I'll have to do more indepth reading to learn more on the #'s)

Overall - I think the biggest part of the problem are the people who commit these crimes and are never caught - or even suspected.

AT least the ones that are caught are dealt with somehow.