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Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

Should the 2001/2003 GWB tax cuts be extended for people that make under $250k?

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Unless the federal government, specifically congress, makes some very strict budgetary rules on spending growth, then I don't think we should send our dysfunctional congress another dime more than they currently receive as they will only waist it. However, if they returned to a more Clinton era fiscal policy (or better), and seriously started reforming entitlements, specifically Medicare, then most likely we will need to see additional revenue just to bring about surpluses in the next few years and reverse the growth in debt service as a percentage of outlays. Even in such an unlikely scenario, a return to Clinton era rates on the top bracket should be not take effect until unemployment dropped below 7%, and it should be coupled with an overall simplification of the tax code.

So, basically, since thats unlikely to occur, this is pretty much just an academic argument.
 
Navy Pride said:
Not in your wildest dreams my left wing friend.........78% of the American public diapproved of that health plan.......
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We aren't talking about the healthcare plan, we are talking about the stim package, with the earmarks in that. We were talking about how if Obama didn't pass it, and had taken the time to remove earmarks, he would have been criticised for abandoning the average American.

Are you playing stupid or something? Because I really don't know if you are trying to dodge the subject, or you actually got lost somewhere along the line...
 
disneydude said:
Pulling more figures out of your ass again Navy?
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Believe what you want....Are you naive enough to believe the american people want that piece of **** you call a health plan??????
 
repeter said:
We aren't talking about the healthcare plan, we are talking about the stim package, with the earmarks in that. We were talking about how if Obama didn't pass it, and had taken the time to remove earmarks, he would have been criticised for abandoning the average American.

Are you playing stupid or something? Because I really don't know if you are trying to dodge the subject, or you actually got lost somewhere along the line...
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We are talking about the budget and ear marks ..........
 
Navy Pride said:
We are talking about the budget and ear marks ..........
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So you are against all earmarks? Including aid to Israel and military housing?
 
Navy Pride said:
We are talking about the budget and ear marks ..........
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Same thing in that case, as in the stimulus package (which I was orginially refering to). If Obama says no to the budget, and gets it sent back to Congress, then he'll be criticised for wasting the taxpayers' collective time. Because he accepted it, he will be criticised for not spending enough time on it. Either way, he will be criticised, regardless of the outcome.
 
repeter said:
Same thing in that case, as in the stimulus package (which I was orginially refering to). If Obama says no to the budget, and gets it sent back to Congress, then he'll be criticised for wasting the taxpayers' collective time. Because he accepted it, he will be criticised for not spending enough time on it. Either way, he will be criticised, regardless of the outcome.
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You think anyone would complain if he denied earmarks for financial aid to Israel, or the earmarks for military housing???
 
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Catawba said:
So you are against all earmarks? Including aid to Israel and military housing?
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Your boy Obama said if he is elected there would be no earmarks......He is a liar.......

I think aid to Israel and consruction of housing should be submitted separately......
 
repeter said:
Same thing in that case, as in the stimulus package (which I was orginially refering to). If Obama says no to the budget, and gets it sent back to Congress, then he'll be criticised for wasting the taxpayers' collective time. Because he accepted it, he will be criticised for not spending enough time on it. Either way, he will be criticised, regardless of the outcome.
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He would only be criticized by lefties like you that love to spend money as long as its not theirs and is the taxpayers............Conservatives like me would love it........
 
Navy Pride said:
He would only be criticized by lefties like you that love to spend money as long as its not theirs and is the taxpayers............Conservatives like me would love it........
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You are not a conservative, and you love spending other people's money...as long as it goes toward a program that directly benefits you. If it goes toward a program that benefits someone else, THEN you're against it.

That isn't being conservative, it's just being selfish.
 
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Navy Pride said:
He would only be criticized by lefties like you that love to spend money as long as its not theirs and is the taxpayers............Conservatives like me would love it........
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(Says the man who never saw a GWB expenditure that he didn't love).:lol:
 
Kandahar said:
You are not a conservative, and you love spending other people's money...as long as it goes toward a program that directly benefits you. If it goes toward a program that benefits someone else, THEN you're against it.

That isn't being conservative, it's just being selfish.
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This thread is not about me and I could care less what you think about me.....The subject is that your daddy Obama lied my left wing friend when he said if elected he would not sign any bills that contained ear marks....That makes him a liar..........
 
disneydude said:
(Says the man who never saw a GWB expenditure that he didn't love).:lol:
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One more time which makes it the 100th time..........you can keep saying it but its just another lie you have told......

I voted for Bush twice..........I actually voted against gore and Kerry because if they were elected when it comes to spending they would make Bush look like a piker just like your daddy is making Bush look like a piker when it comes to spending........

Also Bush fooled me I thought he was a Fiscal Conservative when he was not....He spent like a drunken marine of course he had 9/11/01, 2 wars, and the biggest natural disaster in the history of this county in Katrina happen......Of course lefties like you said he did not spend enough on the Katrina situation...........

Oh and I like President Bush........I I think he is a good man and believe history will judge him that way..........

Now you can keep spewing your lies but I am just going to cut and paste this post and post it again until you quit lying...........
 
Navy Pride said:
One more time which makes it the 100th time..........you can keep saying it but its just another lie you have told......

I voted for Bush twice..........I actually voted against gore and Kerry because if they were elected when it comes to spending they would make Bush look like a piker just like your daddy is making Bush look like a piker when it comes to spending........

Also Bush fooled me I thought he was a Fiscal Conservative when he was not....He spent like a drunken marine of course he had 9/11/01, 2 wars, and the biggest natural disaster in the history of this county in Katrina happen......Of course lefties like you said he did not spend enough on the Katrina situation...........

Oh and I like President Bush........I I think he is a good man and believe history will judge him that way..........

Now you can keep spewing your lies but I am just going to cut and paste this post and post it again until you quit lying...........
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Sounds like you don't love Junior anymore..I'm sad it didn't work out for you.
 
USA-1 said:
Sounds like you don't love Junior anymore..I'm sad it didn't work out for you.
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Can't you read? Damn I get tired of responding to idiots. You should at least have a grade school education to post in DP......

I posted this:

Oh and I like President Bush........I I think he is a good man and believe history will judge him that way..........
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molten_dragon said:
No, not with the budget deficit as high as it currently is.
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LOL

The deficit went up after the tax cuts were put in place and the deficit continues to skyrocket regardless of taxes in or out.

The deficit needs to be snipped in the bud - and the tax breaks continued.

If I can't keep hitting up my employer for more money because I keep going over budget then neither should the government.
 
Navy Pride said:
Can't you read? Damn I get tired of responding to idiots. You should at least have a grade school education to post in DP......

I posted this:
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Looks you you can't read. I said "love". :doh

You better go back to elementary school, you moron.
 
Navy Pride said:
Can't you read? Damn I get tired of responding to idiots. You should at least have a grade school education to post in DP......

I posted this:
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You seem to have contradicted yourself, when you were stumbling over your hypocrisy. :roll:
 
Navy Pride said:
Your boy Obama said if he is elected there would be no earmarks......He is a liar.......
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That is an outright lie as has been shown! Do you have any other tricks you can do besides repeating lies that have already been disproved?
I think aid to Israel and consruction of housing should be submitted separately......
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They are earmarks and you claim all earmarks are bad.
 
Catawba said:
That is an outright lie as has been shown! Do you have any other tricks you can do besides repeating lies that have already been disproved?


They are earmarks and you claim all earmarks are bad.
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I bet you Navy is going to say you aren't a real conservative :roll:
 
repeter said:
I bet you Navy is going to say you aren't a real conservative :roll:
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I don't get worried about anyone that does not understand what the root word is in conservative.
 
This debate is absurd. You cannot afford to have the tax cuts, far less extend them. Clearly there is no reason but populist democracy and the downward spiral of it, that make tax cuts viable.
 
If the government didn't perpetually boost their budget and deficit we'd be just fine with the tax cuts.

Obama campaigned on complaints that Bush spent excessive money on all the wrong things - and Obama's just continuing what he pretended to be so against.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
If the government didn't perpetually boost their budget and deficit we'd be just fine with the tax cuts.
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That's exactly right.
Any claim that we "cannot afford" cutting taxes is based on the false premise that spending cannot be cut.
 
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