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What is the Best Fighter Plane in the World

Which is the Best Fighter?

  • F-22 Raptor

    Votes: 15 78.9%

  • EF-2000 Eurofighter

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • F-35 Lightning 2

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • Su-50 (T-50) PAK Fa

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Su-48 Berkut

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Total voters
    19
Panache said:
I think the A-10 Warthog should really be on the list.

The F-22 generally uses a 20 mm (0.787 in) M61A2 Vulcan gatling gun. The Warthog can pretty much ignore armor-piercing and high-explosive projectiles up to 23 mm.

So in a fight between the two, the Hog could just wait patiently for its shot while the Raptor ineffectually emptied its arsenal into the Hog's titanium armor. One hit with a round from its 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon and the Hog could watch the Raptor shatter like glass.

Add to that the fact that for the cost of an F-22 you could get 50 Warthogs, and there is just no contest.
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But in any other fight except a gun-range dogfight, the A-10 would lose to a missile. And an F-22 could outrun an A-10.
 
Hands down?
The F-4.
With a close second tied between the F-15 and 16. Following in third the Tornado.

The problem with all of those on the list is that they are all very expensive. Maybe or maybe not worth it. But one thing is for sure. No matter how good an F-22 is. It can't be in two places at once. And if you can't build enough to make a difference, it's pretty much useless as a type.
While the ones above are all 20+ and still in front line service doing the job.

And BTW, the winner of the hottest WWII plane has to be the Spitfire. Grace, ellegance, gravitas and a big ****off Merlin engine.:mrgreen:
 
But in any other fight except a gun-range dogfight, the A-10 would lose to a missile. And an F-22 could outrun an A-10.
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The A-10 is not helpless against missiles, with SUU-42A/A Flares/Infrared decoys, chaff dispenser pods and electronic countermeasures.

Also, even if a raptor could somehow manage to take down one A-10, it wouldn't be able to take down the other 49 that you could purchase for the same price.
 
Redress said:
The Me109 was the best looking aircraft from WW2.

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Panache said:
I think the A-10 Warthog should really be on the list.

The F-22 generally uses a 20 mm (0.787 in) M61A2 Vulcan gatling gun. The Warthog can pretty much ignore armor-piercing and high-explosive projectiles up to 23 mm.

So in a fight between the two, the Hog could just wait patiently for its shot while the Raptor ineffectually emptied its arsenal into the Hog's titanium armor. One hit with a round from its 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon and the Hog could watch the Raptor shatter like glass.

Add to that the fact that for the cost of an F-22 you could get 50 Warthogs, and there is just no contest.
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Then you consider that one Raptor can kill 4 Warthogs from BVR, with its AMRAAMS, and than close in and kill another 2 with missiles...

The Warthog is a ground attack fighter. Close in support and the like. It would be hard pressed beating back a MiG-29 and its upgrades,much less a Raptor.
 
Panache said:
The A-10 is not helpless against missiles, with SUU-42A/A Flares/Infrared decoys, chaff dispenser pods and electronic countermeasures.

Also, even if a raptor could somehow manage to take down one A-10, it wouldn't be able to take down the other 49 that you could purchase for the same price.
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Haha, the Raptor wouldn't even have to fight the Hog. The Raptor could fly circles around it, using super cruise, and the Hog would run out of gas before it got to fight. Hell, all 50 of the Hogs could fly around trying to catch the Raptor, and they would all run out of gas before they could even see it.
 
Alvin T. Grey said:
Hands down?
The F-4.
With a close second tied between the F-15 and 16. Following in third the Tornado.

The problem with all of those on the list is that they are all very expensive. Maybe or maybe not worth it. But one thing is for sure. No matter how good an F-22 is. It can't be in two places at once. And if you can't build enough to make a difference, it's pretty much useless as a type.
While the ones above are all 20+ and still in front line service doing the job.
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The proliferation of advanced surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems pose problems to the F-15 and F-16s survivability. The F-22 has higher survivability chances because of it's low observability to radar systems. Also F-22's can engage more targets and at greater distances, so you would not need as many F-22's as you would F-15's.
 
If you mean dog fighter as in the enemy is in visiable range and combat close range combat is going to take place probably the eurofighter. As that is one of its primary roles.

If you mean taking down the enemy from a suprise hit from a long distance, the F22. US radar systems and stealth are better then the Eurofighter.
 
Then you consider that one Raptor can kill 4 Warthogs from BVR, with its AMRAAMS, and than close in and kill another 2 with missiles...
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Even with ECCM, AIM-120s are far from immune to countermeasures. The AIM-9s hardly stand a chance. And even if a Hog takes some explosive damage, she'll keep flying, unlike the Raptor.

Haha, the Raptor wouldn't even have to fight the Hog. The Raptor could fly circles around it, using super cruise, and the Hog would run out of gas before it got to fight.
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Oh, you are all kinds of wrong there. The Raptor can supercruise for maybe a hour and a half tops before she goes bingo fuel herself. The Warthog can keep going for another 6 hours after the Raptor has worn herself out.

Hell, all 50 of the Hogs could fly around trying to catch the Raptor, and they would all run out of gas before they could even see it.
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Nah, see, after running around for an hour and a half, unable to make a dent in any of the Warthogs, the Raptor will run out of fuel and be forced to land. Then when she is sitting on the ground, she will make an easy target.:twisted:
 
Panache said:
I think the A-10 Warthog should really be on the list.

The F-22 generally uses a 20 mm (0.787 in) M61A2 Vulcan gatling gun. The Warthog can pretty much ignore armor-piercing and high-explosive projectiles up to 23 mm.

So in a fight between the two, the Hog could just wait patiently for its shot while the Raptor ineffectually emptied its arsenal into the Hog's titanium armor. One hit with a round from its 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon and the Hog could watch the Raptor shatter like glass.

Add to that the fact that for the cost of an F-22 you could get 50 Warthogs, and there is just no contest.
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I'm a fan of the Warthog but it isn't an air superiority fighter. It's an attack plane.
 
I'm a fan of the Warthog but it isn't an air superiority fighter. It's a masterpiece, representing the pinnacle of human engineering.
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There. Fixed it for you.:mrgreen:
 
Alvin T. Grey said:
Hands down?
The F-4.
With a close second tied between the F-15 and 16. Following in third the Tornado.

The problem with all of those on the list is that they are all very expensive. Maybe or maybe not worth it. But one thing is for sure. No matter how good an F-22 is. It can't be in two places at once. And if you can't build enough to make a difference, it's pretty much useless as a type.
While the ones above are all 20+ and still in front line service doing the job.

And BTW, the winner of the hottest WWII plane has to be the Spitfire. Grace, ellegance, gravitas and a big ****off Merlin engine.:mrgreen:
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Stealth, maneuverability and cannons are what the F-4 lacked.
 
Panache said:
Even with ECCM, AIM-120s are far from immune to countermeasures. The AIM-9s hardly stand a chance. And even if a Hog takes some explosive damage, she'll keep flying, unlike the Raptor.
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You seem to think the Warthog is invulnerable. News flash, it isn't. It's as strong as they come, and it is (in my opinion) the most effective ground-attack fighter ever made, especially in the CAS role, but that's the extent of its capability. Asking a Hog to fight a Raptoris like asking a sniper to kill an Abrams. It just doesn't work that way.


Panache said:
Oh, you are all kinds of wrong there. The Raptor can supercruise for maybe a hour and a half tops before she goes bingo fuel herself. The Warthog can keep going for another 6 hours after the Raptor has worn herself out.
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The Hog has a range of 695 nm. The Raptor has a range of 1,600 nm. Given the speed differences, the Raptor can supercruise at levels as efficient if not more then the Hog at its subsonic, lower altitudes.

Global Aircraft -- A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog)
F-22 Raptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Panache said:
Nah, see, after running around for an hour and a half, unable to make a dent in any of the Warthogs, the Raptor will run out of fuel and be forced to land. Then when she is sitting on the ground, she will make an easy target.:twisted:
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You really seem bent on proving the Warthog a better air-to-air fighter then the F-22 Raptor. Let me break some of this down for you. The Hog cannot get a bead on the Raptor. The Raptor moves too fast, its too maneuverable, and it has an extreme altitude advantage. The Hog's avionics cannot hope to compare to that of the Raptor. With it's AESA radar, the Raptor can jam, track, and engage a Warthog, while the Warthog cannot even see the Raptor. The Hog would not even know it's being engaged until the first missile hits it.

Are you getting this? The Raptor is too fast, too maneuverable, too stealthy, and too good for the Warthog to cope with. Of course, this isn't the Hog's fault. It was built to kill tanks, not aircraft. Something you obviously don't see :roll:
 
The Hog has a range of 695 nm.
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Huh. So it does. I don't know where I got the idea that its range was so much larger. My bad.
 
Arch Enemy said:
That's not true. There were air-air fights in the original Gulf War.

F-22 hands down. The Russians wish they could make such a weapon.
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They will as soon as they steal the design plans.
 
repeter said:
Given that the new Russian T-50 has had its first flight, I was wondering what everyone thought was the best fighter plane in the world. Now, I am asking what the best fighter is, as in dogfighter. Bombing roles aside, what do you think is best?

I personally feel the F-22 is best, because of who would be flying it, and the support the pilot would have, without even getting into the abilities of the plane itself.

EDIT: I've left out any fighters which have not yet actually flown.
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It's Su-47 Berkut, and that plane hasn't even been deployed for combat yet, so there's no way to tell.

The Lightning II isn't an air superiority fighter so it probably doesn't belong on this list either.

Personally I like the MIG31 Foxhound. That thing is FAST!
 
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I dont know but the Fokker Wolf sound frightening if you are a wolf.

The Harrier Jump Jet
 
bhkad said:
Stealth, maneuverability and cannons are what the F-4 lacked.
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It's cheap, upgradable, survivable, all weather, simple, can carry just about anything, in any role. It's a jack of all trades Even after 40+ years it's still in use front line.
That's why I think it gets to be best.
Air to air it couldn't beat the rest I mentioned, But none of those can land on an aircraft carrier. Air to ground the Raptor has it beat. Maybe. But then again you can equip your whole airforce with F-4 F-16 for the cost of a wing of Raptors.
 
Porchev said:
The proliferation of advanced surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems pose problems to the F-15 and F-16s survivability.
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Not so far. And if I remember correctly the F-16s and Tornados are rather good at surpressing them.

The F-22 has higher survivability chances because of it's low observability to radar systems. Also F-22's can engage more targets and at greater distances, so you would not need as many F-22's as you would F-15's.
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All well and good. But just like every branch of service you have to look at logistics.
If they spend half of their time on the ground, then thats the number of them reduced by half. And if Top Gun is to be believed you never leave your wing man. Which means a further 50% reduction as one half of the team is essentially doing the same thing as the other.
This greatly reduces the amount of airspace your wing can cover.
Put simply they are way too expensive to procure 9in enough numbers to keep operating 24/7.
 
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This one takes the cake.
 
I also like this one, it's all about sex appeal:2razz:
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