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Do you have a conceal and carry license?

Do you have a conceal and carry permit?

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Hatuey said:
How is that working in Somalia?
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I'm going to assume that you have not been there. I have. The problem I saw there was that the total collapse of civil government resulted in what I would essentially characterize as a Hobbesian state of nature. Under those circumstances, one would be insane not to be armed.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I am taking a class currently to get my conceal and carry permit.

Does anyone here have this already?

What was your experience with this class and/or the entire process?
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It's a pain in the ass, but I'm glad I did it.
 
Apocalypse said:
I have a license, and own three sidearms.
But I find pocketknives to be much more useful, you know, sidearms never open your bottles. :?
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Can't clean your fingernails with a pistol, either...:rofl
 
apdst said:
Can't clean your fingernails with a pistol, either...:rofl
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Hell, where I'm from if you don't have a knife clipped onto your pocket there's something wrong with you.
 
I don't currently own a sidearm. When I get older and feel more like a mark I'll get a gun. I probably wouldn't get a carry permit. Didn't need one from 1976 to 1993. Won't need one in the future.

The thing about a carry concealed permit is that it isn't any good in many places. Any place with a metal detector or a sign in the window makes your permit moot. So you are only allow to pack heat where firearm carrying is permitted, which isn't very many places.
 
In CO it seems to be more about money than anything else. The CCW is up to the local sheriff to decide on. But the class is a few hours (~100 bucks though), and then for the permit another 152.50 (100 to the county and apparently it costs 52.50 to do a background check). There are movements in CO to get it changed to Vermont style, where in open and concealed are assumed standard. Which is the correct way to do it.
 
Ikari said:
In CO it seems to be more about money than anything else. The CCW is up to the local sheriff to decide on. But the class is a few hours (~100 bucks though), and then for the permit another 152.50 (100 to the county and apparently it costs 52.50 to do a background check). There are movements in CO to get it changed to Vermont style, where in open and concealed are assumed standard. Which is the correct way to do it.
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That is also the way we do it in Alaska. No permit required. The only reason to get a permit here is if you want to carry in another state which honors an Alaska permit.
 
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walk-in said:
Not required in my state. It is more or less expected that everyone owns guns and that most of us carry them at least some of the time. Our only requirement is that when you come into contact with law enforcement you must immediately inform them that you are carrying and let them know where it is. In my experience, most of the time they don't care and don't even ask to see it once you tell them.

An armed society is a polite society.
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But not safer:

Corrections Statistics for the State of Alaska

The crime rate in Alaska is about 8% higher than the national average rate. Property crimes account for around 83.6% of the crime rate in Alaska which is 3% higher than the national rate. The remaining 17.7% are violent crimes and are about 29% higher than other states. The following graph shows how Alaska compared to the rest of the states.
 
Dirty Harry said:
But not safer:

Corrections Statistics for the State of Alaska

The crime rate in Alaska is about 8% higher than the national average rate. Property crimes account for around 83.6% of the crime rate in Alaska which is 3% higher than the national rate. The remaining 17.7% are violent crimes and are about 29% higher than other states. The following graph shows how Alaska compared to the rest of the states.
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I'm well aware of that. A good friend of mine is a state trooper. There are 2 main factors which account for this. First is the extremely high rate of alcohol related crimes. Second is the almost total lack of law enforcement in many parts of the state....something our former governor attempted to address.
There is no doubt we have a crime problem here, but it is truly not related to guns. Our violent crimes tend to be rapes/sexual assault, domestic-related (and usually alcohol related) assaults, etc. I'm not in any way downplaying our problems, but they do not stem from firearms. Alcohol is our major problem.
 
walk-in said:
I'm well aware of that. A good friend of mine is a state trooper. There are 2 main factors which account for this. First is the extremely high rate of alcohol related crimes. Second is the almost total lack of law enforcement in many parts of the state....something our former governor attempted to address.
There is no doubt we have a crime problem here, but it is truly not related to guns. Our violent crimes tend to be rapes/sexual assault, domestic-related (and usually alcohol related) assaults, etc. I'm not in any way downplaying our problems, but they do not stem from firearms. Alcohol is our major problem.
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Just pointing out that the abundance of firearms does not make Alaska any safer than other states.
 
Only in the last two decades, have I seen this land slide in favor of "Safety". My generation ran with scissors, wore no helmets, seatbelts, or under wear. We jumped off high places, and surfed in shark filled waters. We gave no thought to safety. ---Now days I fear, people sleep with sweat dampened sheets. --"Safety Third" is my Moto. Let's go play in traffic.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Just pointing out that the abundance of firearms does not make Alaska any safer than other states.
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No disagreement there. My only point would be that the abundance of firearms also does not make it less safe. I believe that can be partially attributed to the fact that Alaskans view guns as a part of life. They grow up with them. I started shooting before I started school, as did my kids.
 
If I feel a guy is packin Heat, I give Him a little more respect, as I don't wanna get shot. that simple.
 
Skateguy said:
Only in the last two decades, have I seen this land slide in favor of "Safety". My generation ran with scissors, wore no helmets, seatbelts, or under wear. We jumped off high places, and surfed in shark filled waters. We gave no thought to safety. ---Now days I fear, people sleep with sweat dampened sheets. --"Safety Third" is my Moto. Let's go play in traffic.
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Don't forget riding around in the back of pickups, jumping off of cliffs and bridges to go swimming, playing lawn darts, having BB gun wars, blowing stuff up with firecrackers, and climbing trees. When I was a kid, using a gun was one of the "safer" things I did.
 
Skateguy said:
If I feel a guy is packin Heat, I give Him a little more respect, as I don't wanna get shot. that simple.
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No offense but that is just a ridiculous statement. You give people more respect if you feel they might have a gun? Do you live in 1840s California? Because that is the only place where I'd think people would pull out a gun if they felt like they were disrespected. Do people like you actually exist? Because I know quite a few gun owners(most are family members) and I don't know many who think of their guns when they are disrespected.
 
walk-in said:
No disagreement there. My only point would be that the abundance of firearms also does not make it less safe. I believe that can be partially attributed to the fact that Alaskans view guns as a part of life. They grow up with them. I started shooting before I started school, as did my kids.
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We grew up with guns in Wisconsin, too. Guns and hunting were a part of life. Just like Alaska.
 
Mickey Shane said:
The thing about a carry concealed permit is that it isn't any good in many places. Any place with a metal detector or a sign in the window makes your permit moot. So you are only allow to pack heat where firearm carrying is permitted, which isn't very many places.
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Funny... 'Round here, its MOST places. "No Guns" signs are prety rare.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I am taking a class currently to get my conceal and carry permit.

Does anyone here have this already?

What was your experience with this class and/or the entire process?
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First, sweetheart, it's "concealed carry permit". :mrgreen:

Yes, I've had one for many years.

The class I took was easy, practical and informative, and cost 50 bucks.

My state has "shall issue" permits, like 40 others; they cannot deny you a permit without a specific legal reason, such as you're a felon.

I carry pretty much all the time, because I am not comfortable about depending on the benevolence of my fellow man.

Funny... 'Round here, its MOST places. "No Guns" signs are prety rare.
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Ditto. I rarely come across a place that is posted "no carry", and almost never see metal detectors.

Properly a permit ought not be necessary to exercise a right specifically enumerated in the Constitution; however I have compromised and got a permit because 1. I want to carry and 2. I don't want to get in trouble with the law for carrying.
 
Dirty Harry said:
We grew up with guns in Wisconsin, too. Guns and hunting were a part of life. Just like Alaska.
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I grew up in Wisconsin also did lots of fishing and hunting.

Wisconsin and Illinois do not have carry permits
 
ptif219 said:
I grew up in Wisconsin also did lots of fishing and hunting.

Wisconsin and Illinois do not have carry permits
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No we don't, but you can openly carry handguns without a permit if you want. I don't know why one would want to, though.
 
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