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Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

  • yes,-- everybody should be treated equal

    Votes: 69 74.2%
  • No--some people should recieve preferential treatment

    Votes: 24 25.8%

  • Total voters
    93
I didn't feel like reading 76 pages but here is my opinion.

If marriage is a religious thing, then the gov't should have no part in it. But some churches are willing to except gay marriage so shouldn't it be based on which church the people go to. So if they church they go to allows it, the gov't shouldn't be allowed to say they can't get married. Also, two atheists in this country can get married.

The argument that two men would get married just for the benefit of saving money is ignorant. It's implying a man and a women wouldn't do the same.

I would like to hear an argument against gay marriage that doesn't involve religion or exploitation.
 
I didn't feel like reading 76 pages but here is my opinion.

If marriage is a religious thing, then the gov't should have no part in it. But some churches are willing to except gay marriage so shouldn't it be based on which church the people go to. So if they church they go to allows it, the gov't shouldn't be allowed to say they can't get married. Also, two atheists in this country can get married.

The argument that two men would get married just for the benefit of saving money is ignorant. It's implying a man and a women wouldn't do the same.

I would like to hear an argument against gay marriage that doesn't involve religion or exploitation.

What do you mean by a religious thing? Because churches normally marry people?
 
What do you mean by a religious thing? Because churches normally marry people?

Sure, a lot of marriages are conducted by a priest/preacher. But marriages can also be conducted by a judge who is certified. And depending on where you live, different people can marry other people so it doesn't have to be religious.
 
No. Marriage is meant to be between, and only between a man and a woman. Homosexuals are disgraces to all of the morals of America.

A lot of people feel like you do on the issue..........That is why no matter what DD says there will never be gay marriage in this country.....I am ardently against gay marriage but not for the reasons you are......

Please give specific morals that you feel Homosexuals are "disagracing"
 
Please give specific morals that you feel Homosexuals are "disagracing"

all those american morals, you know, that only true americans have, not those gay, fake americans, that dont really have american citizenship, or accent, and are just pretending to be american, i bet they're really canadians sent to try and tear down american morals
 
No. Marriage is meant to be between, and only between a man and a woman. Homosexuals are disgraces to all of the morals of America.


Okay, so how about it we call it "civil unions" when it's homosexuals? Would that appease you?

You're more of a disgrace to America, actually. The morals of America are religious freedom and the voice of the people; both of which are being trodded on by any legislation banning gay marriage.
 
Okay, so how about it we call it "civil unions" when it's homosexuals? Would that appease you?

If I called a pile of cow **** a t-bone steak would you eat it? After all I called it something different.Therefore by your logic and every closet gay marriage supporter and sucker, calling something by another name must make it different.
 
-this could be interesting

This would have been more interesting if you made the votes public,not that I am accusing any one side of cheating with the poll.
 
If I called a pile of cow **** a t-bone steak would you eat it? After all I called it something different.Therefore by your logic and every closet gay marriage supporter and sucker, calling something by another name must make it different.

Fine.

Why do you think you can tell other people what to eat though?
 
If I called a pile of cow **** a t-bone steak would you eat it? After all I called it something different.Therefore by your logic and every closet gay marriage supporter and sucker, calling something by another name must make it different.

I was being sarcastic. And comparing cow **** to gay marriae? That's simply intolerance.
 
I was being sarcastic. And comparing cow **** to gay marriae? That's simply intolerance.

I was not comparing "gay marriae" to cow ****, I was merely pointing out how calling something by another name does not change what it is as so many closet gay marriage supporters and suckers would have people believe..
 
I was not comparing "gay marriae" to cow ****, I was merely pointing out how calling something by another name does not change what it is as so many closet gay marriage supporters and suckers would have people believe..

What the heck? :spin:
 
I was not comparing "gay marriae" to cow ****, I was merely pointing out how calling something by another name does not change what it is as so many closet gay marriage supporters and suckers would have people believe..

It seemed pretty clear to me that you were comparing any form of government sanctioned same sex relationship to cow ****. Or were you comparing it to t-bone steak? Or was the entire comparison you were trying to draw a load of cow ****?
 
It seemed pretty clear to me that you were comparing any form of government sanctioned same sex relationship to cow ****. Or were you comparing it to t-bone steak? Or was the entire comparison you were trying to draw a load of cow ****?

I wasn't making a comparison of anything but merely pointing out how changing the name of something does not change what it is to someone suggesting that somehow changing the name of marriage will make it different. .Of course I am sure you all know that because I find it hard to believe that you all are really that stupid to not know.
 
I wasn't making a comparison of anything but merely pointing out how changing the name of something does not change what it is to someone suggesting that somehow changing the name of marriage will make it different. .Of course I am sure you all know that because I find it hard to believe that you all are really that stupid to not know.

How bout, "a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet." :mrgreen:

It would be easier for you just to say you don't support civil unions or gay marriage because you don't support any government sanctioned same sex relationship.
 
How bout, "a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet." :mrgreen:

Asking if changing the name of cow **** to t-bone steak seems more direct and to the point. Everybody agrees that changing the name of cow **** to t-bone steak does not change the fact it is still cow ****.


It would be easier for you just to say you don't support civil unions or gay marriage because you don't support any government sanctioned same sex relationship.
Most posters already know I do not support gay marriage regardless if the term used is "marriage" or some paper coated or politically correct term for marriage such as "domestic partnership" or "civil union" or some other term is used.
 
Most posters already know I do not support gay marriage regardless if the term used is "marriage" or some paper coated or politically correct term for marriage such as "domestic partnership" or "civil union" or some other term is used.

Most posters probably don't give a turd about you or or views and most certainly wouldn't make an effort to remember. Unless you have a valid argument to make, it isn't worth remembering.

For or against gay marriage, who cares what your opinion is if you don't have a valid argument to make one way or the other? That is what a debate forum is about. Not to preach, but to prove your views are based in reason.
 
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Most posters probably don't give a turd about you or or views and most certainly wouldn't make an effort to remember. Unless you have a valid argument to make, it isn't worth remembering.

I am sure most posters remember your wacko truffer threads,but your arguments are not valid nor are they worth any effort to read.So whats your point?

For or against gay marriage, who cares what your opinion is if you don't have a valid argument to make one way or the other? That is what a debate forum is about. Not to preach, but to prove your views are based in reason.
Most people could care less what your reasons are if your reasons do not support what they believe. Its why you constantly post truffer threads.
 
I am sure most posters remember your wacko truffer threads,but your arguments are not valid nor are they worth any effort to read.So whats your point?

:roll:

I sincerely doubt you even know what my arguments are so I'll let you do your strutting and move on.


Most people could care less what your reasons are if your reasons do not support what they believe. Its why you constantly post truffer threads.

I have no idea what a "truffer" thread is nor do I care. People who only look for information to support what they believe lack any degree of critical thinking skills and thus aren't worth debating.
 
james... you are confusing CriticalThought with another poster. CriticalThought does not post "truffer" threads.
 
I was not comparing "gay marriae" to cow ****, I was merely pointing out how calling something by another name does not change what it is as so many closet gay marriage supporters and suckers would have people believe..
So james, I was trying to figure out what you meant by "closet gay marriage supporters" and I'm really not sure. Is it...
People who support gay marriage covertly?
People who support marriage for closet gays?
People who support gay marriage ceremonies being conducted in closets?
Or is it something else entirely?
 
So james, I was trying to figure out what you meant by "closet gay marriage supporters" and I'm really not sure. Is it...
People who support gay marriage covertly?
People who support marriage for closet gays?
People who support gay marriage ceremonies being conducted in closets?
Or is it something else entirely?
Maybe james is suggesting that all supporters of gay marriage are themselves gay, but in the closet. This would spring from the idea that no one supports anything except from a very close, immediate sense of self-interest.
 
Maybe james is suggesting that all supporters of gay marriage are themselves gay, but in the closet. This would spring from the idea that no one supports anything except from a very close, immediate sense of self-interest.
Yeah, I should have thought of that possibility, but it's just such a dumb concept it didn't even occur to me. I do hope that isn't what he meant.
 
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