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Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

  • yes,-- everybody should be treated equal

    Votes: 69 74.2%
  • No--some people should recieve preferential treatment

    Votes: 24 25.8%

  • Total voters
    93
Wow that is really magnificent.:shock:

That poll is highly suspect. Public opinion polls of same sex marriage usually average 35% approval and 55% disapproval. This is the first poll I have ever seen with such a low percentage supporting civil unions over same sex marriage. The most recent Pew Poll found that 53% of Americans oppose same sex marriage.
 
I am a 100% for gays being allowed to marry. Many of my best friends are gay.;)
 
And your morals are irrelevant to the issue. Other than that, nothing you said has any basis in reality. How does it feel to have just posted nonsense?
The question in the title does ask for an opinion, like it or not.
 
I've been married twice to women I didn't know all that well. but things happen. --Between the two of them, took me for everything I had, plus.---I would trust any number of my Male friends of more than 50 years with my life, and have. They have never let me down. I would trust them more than some woman I barely know, with regards to my well being. ---seems like a legitimate idea. Not for me, cause I got my thing going on just fine. But I can see single straight guys with no family, getting married, for the benefits that go along with it. Somebody to be on your side legally should you need them. Or if you end up in the hospital or what ever. They will only allow in family Members. Someone to legally represent your interests. Almost like an adopted Family member. --so what is the down side?? there always is one.---As far as Straight guys being trustworthy, I say hell ya. Because there is none of that romantic love to mess things up, as it ends up doing in most relationships. . Just the love of the brotherhood of Men. No warm showers, or matching bath robes. Just guys teaming up to take on the world with a team mate, not a lover. Like tennis Doubles kinda.
So this is about non-gay, same-sex marriage?
 
Most posters probably don't give a turd about you or or views and most certainly wouldn't make an effort to remember. Unless you have a valid argument to make, it isn't worth remembering.

For or against gay marriage, who cares what your opinion is if you don't have a valid argument to make one way or the other? That is what a debate forum is about. Not to preach, but to prove your views are based in reason.

Exactly, who cares what your views are CT? The issue of same sex marriage cannot be settled based reason alone (imo). It is like asking which religion or non religion is correct.

I'll save you the time, I know you don't care about my view.:lol:
 
That poll is highly suspect. Public opinion polls of same sex marriage usually average 35% approval and 55% disapproval. This is the first poll I have ever seen with such a low percentage supporting civil unions over same sex marriage. The most recent Pew Poll found that 53% of Americans oppose same sex marriage.

Well, perhaps opinion is changing. And you didn't tell us what the support figure is for the Pew poll.

In any event, my point wasn't about the numbers, but rather the absurd suggestion that everyone who supports gay marriage/civil unions must be secretly gay.
 
I've been married twice to women I didn't know all that well. but things happen. --Between the two of them, took me for everything I had, plus.---I would trust any number of my Male friends of more than 50 years with my life, and have. They have never let me down. I would trust them more than some woman I barely know, with regards to my well being. ---seems like a legitimate idea. Not for me, cause I got my thing going on just fine. But I can see single straight guys with no family, getting married, for the benefits that go along with it. Somebody to be on your side legally should you need them. Or if you end up in the hospital or what ever. They will only allow in family Members. Someone to legally represent your interests. Almost like an adopted Family member. --so what is the down side?? there always is one.---As far as Straight guys being trustworthy, I say hell ya. Because there is none of that romantic love to mess things up, as it ends up doing in most relationships. . Just the love of the brotherhood of Men. No warm showers, or matching bath robes. Just guys teaming up to take on the world with a team mate, not a lover. Like tennis Doubles kinda.

Well said , skate:)
 
I didn't feel like reading 76 pages but here is my opinion.

If marriage is a religious thing, then the gov't should have no part in it. But some churches are willing to except gay marriage so shouldn't it be based on which church the people go to. So if they church they go to allows it, the gov't shouldn't be allowed to say they can't get married. Also, two atheists in this country can get married.

The argument that two men would get married just for the benefit of saving money is ignorant. It's implying a man and a women wouldn't do the same.

I would like to hear an argument against gay marriage that doesn't involve religion or exploitation.
Close but no Cigar. the topic is, should any same sex person be allowed to marry. Or should only gay people be allowed to marry, of the same sex?
 
Close but no Cigar. the topic is, should any same sex person be allowed to marry. Or should only gay people be allowed to marry, of the same sex?

Okay, you just lost me...
 
Exactly, who cares what your views are CT? The issue of same sex marriage cannot be settled based reason alone (imo). It is like asking which religion or non religion is correct.

I'll save you the time, I know you don't care about my view.:lol:

It's a reasonable argument, so I will take it into account.

Also, don't think I'm under any illusion that I'm special. People either engage me or ignore me on account of how reasonable my arguments may be.
 
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Okay, you just lost me...

Basically, his premise was a question asking if any two persons of the same sex, regardless of their sexual interests, should be allowed to marry.
 
Basically, his premise was a question asking if any two persons of the same sex, regardless of their sexual interests, should be allowed to marry.

Two persons of different sex can do that, so why not two of the same sex?
 
Well, perhaps opinion is changing. And you didn't tell us what the support figure is for the Pew poll.

In any event, my point wasn't about the numbers, but rather the absurd suggestion that everyone who supports gay marriage/civil unions must be secretly gay.

Or perhaps this forum has way to many liberals as members or perhaps someone is stuffing the ballot box...You rarely see that number of people voting on any poll and it went up over 100 in one night a week after the poll was posted.........Something is rotten in Denmark.........
 
Or perhaps this forum has way to many liberals as members or perhaps someone is stuffing the ballot box...You rarely see that number of people voting on any poll and it went up over 100 in one night a week after the poll was posted.........Something is rotten in Denmark.........

Who cares? It's a stupid internet poll, it has no scientific value whatsoever. Everyone knows that, even you - right?
 
Who cares? It's a stupid internet poll, it has no scientific value whatsoever. Everyone knows that, even you - right?

I was trying to point out why the figures are so far off from the national polls........
 
Let's consider the kind of choices that married people can make for one another. If you are in the hospital your partner usually gets to decide who does and does not get to see you. If one partner is in the hospital on life support then the other partner can decide to pull the plug. Once you are dead, then your partner has first say in where they bury you. If one partner trashes their credit, then both partner's suffer. If one partner falls in love with someone, then there are the costs of divorce. If one partner dies, then the other partner is usually first in line to inherit their estate. If there are kids in the picture from previous relationships/marriage, then even if the other partner is not biologically related to them, he/she can challenge for visitation/custody.

You really think a lot of straight guys are going to trust other straight guys with those kind of decisions?

Absolutely. In fact, this is one of my gripes with the whole government controlled marriage thing.

None of the girls I have ever been intimate with were people I would want making decisions about whether to pull the plug or not. They could never have brought themselves to pull the plug, regardless of my wishes in the matter.

Even if my hypothetical wife were capable of making the decision to pull the plug, that is not the sort of burden I would want to place on her shoulders. I would much rather trust my best friend to make that kind of decision.
 
Even if my hypothetical wife were capable of making the decision to pull the plug, that is not the sort of burden I would want to place on her shoulders. I would much rather trust my best friend to make that kind of decision.

Well, that's easy, just give someone else power of attorney.

But you may change your mind when you get married.
 
Well, that's easy, just give someone else power of attorney.

But you may change your mind when you get married.

Thats cool. So why can't gay couples just give their partner power of attorney?

For that matter, why can't all couples just give their partner power of attorney if they want, and not give it to them if they don't?
 
Thats cool. So why can't gay couples just give their partner power of attorney?

For that matter, why can't all couples just give their partner power of attorney if they want, and not give it to them if they don't?

They can do that.............
 
They can do that.............

Then why is that kind of nonsense attached to a marriage license to begin with?
 
Thats cool. So why can't gay couples just give their partner power of attorney?

For that matter, why can't all couples just give their partner power of attorney if they want, and not give it to them if they don't?

They can. Except there are hundreds of other things that come automatically with marriage, including some that can't be replicated any other way. And replicating them could cost thousands of dollars in attorney's fees. Marriage is much cheaper and easier.
 
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