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Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

  • yes,-- everybody should be treated equal

    Votes: 69 74.2%
  • No--some people should recieve preferential treatment

    Votes: 24 25.8%

  • Total voters
    93
That is not what made it a rant.

Please read why I said it was a rant.

You said it's a rant because I repeated something "over and over again."
Well, I did repeat some things, but I only did so because I want a response.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Everyone needs to stop pretending to be mods and just report the posts you feel are a violation of the rules so that those of us who are really mods can make the determinations. mmmm-kay.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Everyone needs to stop pretending to be mods and just report the posts you feel are a violation of the rules so that those of us who are really mods can make the determinations. mmmm-kay.

Yes, that's what I recommended.
 
Religious practices and rituals, have nothing what so ever to do with God. God, is God, and has no need of kiss ups.
 
Well try harder in future.

Oh please. :lol:


Oh really? Where did you do that. All I've seen is you saying it's too complicated. That's not an explanation, it's an excuse.

Go back and read the thread. I have explained my reasoning. As I said if you don't like it, to bad. :2wave:
 
You said it's a rant because I repeated something "over and over again."
Well, I did repeat some things, but I only did so because I want a response.

Well that is not the way to get one.

Thanks for playing. :2wave:
 
the tide has shifted--people are changing their votes--for 57--against 119
 
It is against the forum rules and considered an ad hom.
Gimme a break! You made a mistake in your post and I pointed it out. That may not have been very gracious of me but I did explain it was a pet hate. Look at it this way: if I hadn't pointed out you were using the wrong word for your meaning, you might have gone on using it and having people thinking you were ignorant. So I've done you a favour! :)
 
Blackdog: No, not one bit. I know this sounds bad but I and my wife have had, and do have many gay friends. I don't really care if they are gay.

I treat them with respect and in return they do the same. They also know I do not condone the gay relationships they are in. I do not rub it in the faces of my Friends, but I also do not encourage it.

So I love the sinner and hate the sin. As I am commanded to do.



Me: Yeah, that is bad. Why are they friends with someone who thinks the way you do? I don't understand it.

A lot of the people that I argue with about this claim to have gay friends. I don't know whether to believe them or not.

I have a gay best friend, and I know that if I thought the way you did, he'd have been out of my life from the moment he came out to me.

If you have ever had anyone come out to you, you'd know there's no choice involved and there's nothing sinful about it.



Blackdog: I was rolling my eyes at the fact that you and many others constantly attack the example rather then the point.

The point was about sin, and the fact I believe in no levels of sin. Sin is sin, whether it be a murderer, thief, liar or a homosexual relationship.



Me: Well, it's a bad example to use because it completely destroys any point you attempt to make.

Homosexuality doesn't fit in to the category of sin to me. To my ears, it sounds like, "whether it be an apple, orange, banana...or asparagus."

You can't not believe in sin. Sin is everywhere. Everyone sins. You sin, I sin, gay people sin. But the fact that homosexuals are homosexuals is not one of those sins.



Blackdog: Yes. As I said I don't care that much about the issue. I think it is wrong to allow it, so why would I care?


Me: You really just don't care that something you believe in is impeding on the lives of others?

I'm sorry for being repetitive, but it's just so unbelievable to me. I know that people can be cold, but it's tough to swallow when you're directly faced with it...



Blackdog: I have lots of gay friends, they seem to be having a great time down here in Florida. It does not look like they are suffering to me.

In fact a majority of them don't even care about the marraige issue. Much like myself. Hmmm... Birds of a feather.



Me: Again, not so sure if I believe that you have any gay friends. I just can't imagine it.

It'd be like you being friends with someone who didn't agree with your "choice" to be whatever race you are and personally didn't believe you should have the right to vote or be married. But they still loved you as a person.



Blackdog: That would depend on what they are pursuing to make themselves happy. Lets say a member of NAMBLA was seeking their form of happiness, would you still say yes? It is again an example.

I am not in any way comparing gays to child molesters.

I should not even have to say that.



Me: If their form of happiness was harming a child, then of course not. In fact, I'd want them dead.

I'm okay with anything that doesn't harm anyone or infringe on anyone else's rights.

Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone or infringe on anyone else's rights. That's why I'm alright with that and do not see why this is even an issue.


There you go, I shortened it up as best as I could.
 
the tide has shifted--people are changing their votes--for 57--against 119
Given the levels of pro and con debate that's gone on in this thread, the poll results seem somewhat skewed, don't you think? You might even say the majority of 'No' voters are unable or unwilling to defend their positions.
 
Well that is not the way to get one.

Thanks for playing. :2wave:

I didn't repeat myself that much.
Jeez.
Our conversation was getting very lengthy, I agree, but that doesn't mean you should just quit and run away.
 
Go back and read the thread. I have explained my reasoning. As I said if you don't like it, to bad. :2wave:
How would I know whether I like it or not when I haven't seen it?
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It's possible I've missed it I suppose, but I don't think so. I'm certainly not going to trawl back through over 600 posts on a wild goose chase. But please, if you explained it you'll remember what you wrote and when, won't you? So it will be relatively easy for you to find. Get to it...
 
How would I know whether I like it or not when I haven't seen it?
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It's possible I've missed it I suppose, but I don't think so. I'm certainly not going to trawl back through over 600 posts on a wild goose chase. But please, if you explained it you'll remember what you wrote and when, won't you? So it will be relatively easy for you to find. Get to it...

Nope. He won't.
Him and I went through this exact same conversation a few pages ago.
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How would I know whether I like it or not when I haven't seen it?
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It's possible I've missed it I suppose, but I don't think so. I'm certainly not going to trawl back through over 600 posts on a wild goose chase. But please, if you explained it you'll remember what you wrote and when, won't you? So it will be relatively easy for you to find. Get to it...



Some of us have been through this crap on this board already, perhaps more than once. I participated in a thread where I explained why Christianity doesn't approve of homosexuality. We looked at a lot of scripture. We dug deep into the original Greek and Hebrew and the meanings of the original words. My chief opponent in the debate wiggled and squirmed 20 different ways in an effort to convince me that Scripture doesn't mean what it says, and he failed and had to resort to other arguments.

Blackdog was also involved in that long, long thread. I'm not surprised he doesn't want to have to go over all that stuff again... I don't want to either. Look it up with the search function and read it if you're intrested, it will fill you in on more details than you probably want to hear.

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Funny how the poll made an 180 deg. reversal from this morning.--somebody pullin strings here, or what.
 
Some of us have been through this crap on this board already, perhaps more than once. I participated in a thread where I explained why Christianity doesn't approve of homosexuality. We looked at a lot of scripture. We dug deep into the original Greek and Hebrew and the meanings of the original words. My chief opponent in the debate wiggled and squirmed 20 different ways in an effort to convince me that Scripture doesn't mean what it says, and he failed and had to resort to other arguments.

Blackdog was also involved in that long, long thread. I'm not surprised he doesn't want to have to go over all that stuff again... I don't want to either. Look it up with the search function and read it if you're intrested, it will fill you in on more details than you probably want to hear.

G.

I've done it from the opposite end and it really does get boring. In the end with people I got along along with we agreed to disagree.
 
Some of us have been through this crap on this board already, perhaps more than once. I participated in a thread where I explained why Christianity doesn't approve of homosexuality. We looked at a lot of scripture. We dug deep into the original Greek and Hebrew and the meanings of the original words. My chief opponent in the debate wiggled and squirmed 20 different ways in an effort to convince me that Scripture doesn't mean what it says, and he failed and had to resort to other arguments.

Blackdog was also involved in that long, long thread. I'm not surprised he doesn't want to have to go over all that stuff again... I don't want to either. Look it up with the search function and read it if you're intrested, it will fill you in on more details than you probably want to hear.

G.
I am interested, but I'm not prepared to spend an inordinate amount of time searching for something that someone else says exists and I only have their word for it. If you think there have been posts made in the past which explain religious intransigence on homosexuality, you should remember them well enough to make finding them a trivial matter for you. You find them and I'll read them. I await with bated breath.
 
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I don't want to bother arguing with you because it's pointless and a waste of time, but I just look at the things you post...
Why are you so mean?

Conservatives telling the truth is routinely characterized as "being mean."

Do you have a counterargument? Calling me "mean" isn't an argument.
 
I am interested, but I'm not prepared to spend an inordinate amount of time searching for something that someone else says exists and I only have their word for it. If you think there have been posts made in the past which explain religious intransigence on homosexuality, you should remember them well enough to make finding them a trivial matter for you. I await with bated breath.

Meh I get Goshin's point. To sit there and research, search all the points/issues over and over again is very time consuming and tedious. BTW I totally disagree with him.
 
Meh I get Goshin's point. To sit there and research, search all the points/issues over and over again is very time consuming and tedious. BTW I totally disagree with him.
Maybe so, but finding something, when he knows what it is he's looking for and where/when it was originally posted, would be far easier for him than it would be for me. Moreover, if someone makes a claim, the onus is on them to prove it. Instructions to go searching for something which may not even exist might work on some people... but not me. ;)
 
Funny how the poll made an 180 deg. reversal from this morning.--somebody pullin strings here, or what.
Are you suggesting the current poll result has been rigged? How would that be possible?
 
Funny how the poll made an 180 deg. reversal from this morning.--somebody pullin strings here, or what.

That is what I was trying to say earlier.........when someone makes up a poll and they don't check the block that reveals the names and how they voted it seems that hanky panky can take place............CC says he knows how people actually voted so maybe he can tell us what the actual vote is.I doubt if a hundred people voted since last night........
 
Maybe so, but finding something, when he knows what it is he's looking for and where/when it was originally posted, would be far easier for him than it would be for me. Moreover, if someone makes a claim, the onus is on them to prove it. Instructions to go searching for something which may not even exist might work on some people... but not me. ;)
Even if someone would give us an idea of when this thread happened and in what forum--maybe a word in the title--that would be very helpful. Just searching for the term "homosexuality" in the Religion and Philosophy forum reveals nothing.
 
Maybe so, but finding something, when he knows what it is he's looking for and where/when it was originally posted, would be far easier for him than it would be for me. Moreover, if someone makes a claim, the onus is on them to prove it. Instructions to go searching for something which may not even exist might work on some people... but not me. ;)


Are you suggesting I'm trying to send you on a snipe hunt?

You haven't been here very long and don't know me well, or you'd know better. I don't do **** like that.

If I feel like bothering to search it up again, I'll post the link when I get around to it. To be blunt, you're a newbie, don't expect me to go out of my way to accomodate you. I don't owe you the extra consideration that I'd show to someone like Winston, who's been around awhile and demonstrated his quality.
 
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