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Should marijuana be legalized?

Should we legalize pot?


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Keep it illegal.

Kids are gonna get high while driving. And they're going to talk on their cell phones. And all that texting. We need to keep a very serious attitude about drugs and safety at least for the sake of the kids. No legal marijuana, no way.

I dont understand what point you are trying to make.IMO texting while driving is much worse than smoking weed.
 
There is no rational reason to keep weed illegal

The damages the war on weed does to our freedom and our national treasury is unbelievable
 
Anything can alter the mind with the right amount of dosage. It's pathetic to arbitrarily pick and choose what drugs should be legal or illegal.
 
With the exception of illicit drugs which have no function other than to **** you up
 
"to **** you up" is not a function of "illicit drugs".
 
The most screwed up, and out of touch with reality I have been, is with over the counter "sea sick Medicine" ---I was talking to a rolled up carpet.---Bad stuff, dat.
 
Anything can alter the mind with the right amount of dosage. It's pathetic to arbitrarily pick and choose what drugs should be legal or illegal.

Custard can't.
 
feel free to respond to my arguments any time, angrybeaver. let us know what your thoughts are on the negative effects of marijuana use vs. prohibition.
 
feel free to respond to my arguments any time, angrybeaver. let us know what your thoughts are on the negative effects of marijuana use vs. prohibition.

Thank you very much for your invitation but I posted them a while back.
However I was responding to dcoke.
 
As my generation said--"No hope, with out dope" ---Just say "Mo"
 
Thank you very much for your invitation but I posted them a while back.
However I was responding to dcoke.

you really haven't. all you've contributed are some semi-relevant thoughts about alcohol and some vague statements saying "weed is bad for you." you haven't mentioned your thoughts on the effects of the current policy. i brought up several issues, and you haven't responded at all. maybe i'm expecting too much, but you haven't made any kind of argument.
 
you really haven't. all you've contributed are some semi-relevant thoughts about alcohol and some vague statements saying "weed is bad for you." you haven't mentioned your thoughts on the effects of the current policy. i brought up several issues, and you haven't responded at all. maybe i'm expecting too much, but you haven't made any kind of argument.

My thoughts on the subject where quite clear.
It appears that you had trouble in following a simple argument so I will make it easier for you.
Cannabis can do a great deal of harm to a cannabis smokers mental health.
Alchohol can be harmful too.
Alchohol is legal.
Cannabis is not.
Why have two harmful substances openly on the market to destroy peoples health?
BUT...if we must legalise cannabis then it would be better to market a lower strength form than the very high strength ones that we find on the black market today.
I hope that this is simple enough for you to understand.
If it is not I cannot help you any further but I would suggest that you could be a victim of the very thing that I have warned about.
 
My thoughts on the subject where quite clear.
It appears that you had trouble in following a simple argument so I will make it easier for you.
Cannabis can do a great deal of harm to a cannabis smokers mental health.
Alchohol can be harmful too.
Alchohol is legal.
Cannabis is not.
Why have two harmful substances openly on the market to destroy peoples health?
BUT...if we must legalise cannabis then it would be better to market a lower strength form than the very high strength ones that we find on the black market today.
I hope that this is simple enough for you to understand.
If it is not I cannot help you any further but I would suggest that you could be a victim of the very thing that I have warned about.
If you don't mind me chiming in here---If there are two options offered to the consumer, which do you think they will go with?? the good stuff, or the watered down stuff.--It's out there now, today, for our choosing.--Most choose the good stuff.
 
Why have two harmful substances openly on the market to destroy peoples health?

No need to be condescending, it seems that you are the one who is having trouble understanding. My argument is that the consequences of prohibition far outweigh the consequences of people using marijuana. I'm asking that you address the negative externalities of prohibition, which include the following: fiscal costs of pursuing, trying, and incarcerating marijuana users, especially given the current state of our country (healthcare, education, economy, etc.); personal and societal costs like jailing parents, hindering future job opportunities, and exposing non-violent marijuana users to violent, real criminals; lost potential tax revenue ($40 to $100 bil. if same rate as cigarettes); empowering and funding drug cartels...and so on.

The main concerns of those against legalization include the following: high driving, second-hand smoke, and inefficiency. There is no way a law legalizing marijuana would allow high driving. Even so, studies have shown that driving after smoking 3 joints in 15 minutes (a lot) is less dangerous than driving with a BAC of 0.08% (Marijuana And Actual Driving Performance). As for second-hand smoke, public smoking would surely be illegal, and those irresponsible enough to smoke around their children likely don't care about the law and are doing so anyway. The argument for laziness and stupidity is, well, lazy and stupid, and it is based entirely on stereotypes. There are plenty of lazy, stupid non-smokers and plenty of brilliant, motivated smokers.

Even if we take these common concerns at face value (do you have others?), they are still, in my opinion, FAR worse than the consequences of prohibition. What do you think?

As for your argument for legalizing weak marijuana, don't you think that people would just continue to illegally grow and consume more potent strains? Either that or just smoke more of the weaker stuff?
 
If you don't mind me chiming in here---If there are two options offered to the consumer, which do you think they will go with?? the good stuff, or the watered down stuff.--It's out there now, today, for our choosing.--Most choose the good stuff.

Whats good stuff?
If the only alchohol that we could buy was wine and beer but Scotch illegal maybe everyone would buy the illegal scotch but I doubt it.
Ok you could just drink enough beer to waste yourself as badly much as drinking the scotch.
Maybe this is a bad idea, maybe its not, but I am worried that the high thc forms of bud are just easier to consume and it seems that high thc intake is dangerous if consumed over a long period of time.
If you are right and my compromise cant work then I think that cannabis should be banned outright.
As I stated in previous posts the pot heads that I have known have all seemed to have been adversely affected by your so called ..good stuff.
 
No need to be condescending, it seems that you are the one who is having trouble understanding. My argument is that the consequences of prohibition far outweigh the consequences of people using marijuana. I'm asking that you address the negative externalities of prohibition, which include the following: fiscal costs of pursuing, trying, and incarcerating marijuana users, especially given the current state of our country (healthcare, education, economy, etc.); personal and societal costs like jailing parents, hindering future job opportunities, and exposing non-violent marijuana users to violent, real criminals; lost potential tax revenue ($40 to $100 bil. if same rate as cigarettes); empowering and funding drug cartels...and so on.

The main concerns of those against legalization include the following: high driving, second-hand smoke, and inefficiency. There is no way a law legalizing marijuana would allow high driving. Even so, studies have shown that driving after smoking 3 joints in 15 minutes (a lot) is less dangerous than driving with a BAC of 0.08% (Marijuana And Actual Driving Performance). As for second-hand smoke, public smoking would surely be illegal, and those irresponsible enough to smoke around their children likely don't care about the law and are doing so anyway. The argument for laziness and stupidity is, well, lazy and stupid, and it is based entirely on stereotypes. There are plenty of lazy, stupid non-smokers and plenty of brilliant, motivated smokers.

Even if we take these common concerns at face value (do you have others?), they are still, in my opinion, FAR worse than the consequences of prohibition. What do you think?

As for your argument for legalizing weak marijuana, don't you think that people would just continue to illegally grow and consume more potent strains? Either that or just smoke more of the weaker stuff?

What you have trouble understanding is that I have no interest in YOUR argument.
You seem to think that because I have avoided your points, I have no answer to them.
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THEM.
My point was quite narrow band, only concerned with the points that I stated above.
Why have 2 poisons?
If we have to legalise pot then why not weak pot as a compromise?

The problems of enforcing a ban on cannabis is another argument of which I have not posted a comment on but will when I feel like it .
As for your last comment, that is possible but maybe not everyone wants to get wasted on illegal pot when they can buy some mellow stuff in the shop down the road and maybe some will just buy lots of mellow stuff and get wasted anyway.
Maybe most people will just enjoy a nice buzz with a good mellow bud and leave the potheads to smoke themselves into depression, loss of memory and
hospital or prison.
 
well, here we are on debatepolitics.com-sorry if i thought you were interested in debating. saying "LALALALA IM NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY" isnt debate. attempting to debunk my argument is to debate, and you have failed to address it whatsoever. i guess that makes me the winner? wooooo
 
You are wrong. It is.

Prove it.

Let me add, that even if it were, that only hurts the user and no once else, so it is up to the user to decide if he/she wants to harm themselves this way.
 
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well, here we are on debatepolitics.com-sorry if i thought you were interested in debating. saying "LALALALA IM NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY" isnt debate. attempting to debunk my argument is to debate, and you have failed to address it whatsoever. i guess that makes me the winner? wooooo

I am not interested in debunking an argument that I was not debating.
You seem far more like a loser to me but if you want to congratulate yourself get a biscuit out your mothers biscuit barrel and have it on me.
 
I am not interested in debunking an argument that I was not debating.
You seem far more like a loser to me but if you want to congratulate yourself get a biscuit out your mothers biscuit barrel and have it on me.

a. the argument is "should marijuana be legalized." you don't want to debunk an argument supporting that idea? why are you here? isnt that the point?

b. i was clearly mocking your refusal to debate the topic of this poll when i declared myself the winner.

c. what?
 
Prove it.

Let me add, that even if it were, that only hurts the user and no once else, so it is up to the user to decide if he/she wants to harm themselves this way.

There is a great deal of evidence that shows that long term use exacerbates schizophrenia,depression and can be mentally crippling.
If you want to do yourself harm then do it but jump off a cliff dont perpetuate a dangerous drug which can harm others.
This same guff was spouted by tobacco smokers 40 years ago.
It seems that they were wrong, children have been made sick by secondary smoke and mothers and fathers have died after many years of smoking.
Tell it to your kids when your in the padded cell.
 
I am both Pro and Anti-Marijuana:rofl.

On one side it really doesn't harm people and people will no longer mix hard drugs with it seeing as drug dealers will be obsolete.
On the other hand, I think people waste the money on it and get lazy. Also if it does in fact kill braincells than it shouldn't be legalized, I don't want to be surrounded by idiots.
Either way the Government hasn't found a good way to make money off of it and won't legalize it.
 
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I just finished off an afternoon bowl---and the affects, seem to make you folks seem smarter, and much better looking, I might add. cheers
 
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