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Is it time to profile on airline flights?

Is it time to profile on airline flights?

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Navy Pride said:
You lefties mark my word......You keep believing like you hero Hussein Obama that terrorism is not a threat against this country and ignore it and treat it like a police action and there will be and attack on this country that will make Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like a first grade birthday party.......We have to do whatever it takes to protect ourselves against radical Islam and if that is profiling so be it.......

When are you going to get it through your thick heads that radical islamists want you dead??????
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well, statistically speaking it isn't a threat against your country, there is only one war in american history that they have entered on equal terms, that posed a threat to it, the war for independence. terrorist have never taken over a country without popular support, or without america giving them weapons...oh the irony...so america is under no real threat from terrorism, and there's no way they will get nukes
 
Yes profiling should be used but not as the only tool. Profiling should be used as one of many tools to identify, limit and prevent threats on airlines. Just as with any other type of threat many tools should be used. Just like with the profiling of types of serial killers, profiling can be a valuable tool for airline terrorism. Profiling also encompases many factors besides skin color.
 
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Navy Pride said:
That is and easy one......Who is committing all the terrorist attacks in the world? Its radical Islam and I would profile any Islamic person that boarded a plane.......I am sorry it has to come to this but we are fighting for our very existence here......The left won't even say the words Islamic Terrorists.....They want to call it a police problem.............I say bull ****...........
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I guess I'm curious then how you would suggest Muslims be identified. Race/physical appearance is not necessarily an indicator of religion.
 
disneydude said:
Why stop at airline flights? What makes airline unique. If you are going to engage in racial profiling then you should do it in all aspects of life.
Better yet, we could do what we did with the japanese in WWII and put all arab/Americans in internment camps. Wasn't that something that you were advocating just about a month ago, Navy?
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Over the top hyperbole and your red herring logical fallacy shows your lack of any counter argument.
 
Navy Pride said:
You lefties mark my word......You keep believing like you hero Hussein Obama that terrorism is not a threat against this country and ignore it and treat it like a police action and there will be and attack on this country that will make Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like a first grade birthday party.......We have to do whatever it takes to protect ourselves against radical Islam and if that is profiling so be it.......

When are you going to get it through your thick heads that radical islamists want you dead??????
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You hit the nail on the head. That is exactly the reason we should have gone after Al Qaeda with everything we have instead of wasting time and resources in Iraq. Afghanistan and Pakistan are the real threat to our security and everyday Al Qaeda is getting closer and closer to Pakistani Nukes. Hopefully the surge in Afghanistan can accomplish what the last administration couldn't. I hope too much time hasn't been wasted.
 
molten_dragon said:
I guess I'm curious then how you would suggest Muslims be identified. Race/physical appearance is not necessarily an indicator of religion.
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Tattoo a barcode on their foreheads. Scanning would save time and minimize inconvenience for the passengers.
 
Navy Pride said:
We have to do whatever it takes to protect ourselves against radical Islam
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What is we just turn into radical Islamists ourselves?

There problem solved doing "what ever it takes"...LOL
 
Nope, its not that effective and the consequences far outweight the benefits.

But hey, I'm glad Navy is in favor of expanding government intrusion into our lives, expanding government power, expanding government size.

Hey Navy, I guess I can start calling you my Left Wing Friend now with you being such a good socialist, wanting the government to have more control over our lives, right?
 
spud_meister said:
i hate to tell you this, but not all terrorists have dark skin, perhaps you should look up david hicks for example
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Most do, that is what racial profiling is all about.....;)
Also, Hicks was an enemy combatant, not a suicide bomber....;)
Same with Lindh, John Walker not a bomber, just a traitor.....;)
 
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SgtRock said:
Got back up!

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Go to the following web site and scroll down they list all islamist terrorist attacks over the last two months. Then click on the archives and you can read the actual reports of each of these 14596 attacks since 9/11.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World

Islam: The Religion of Peace
(and a big stack of dead bodies)
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That site is using Sectarian Violence as terrorist attacks, so that means every "sectarian" killing that has happened in Northern Ireland (and there are tons and tons of them) can count as Christian Terrorist attacks.
 
ScottD said:
That site is using Sectarian Violence as terrorist attacks, so that means every "sectarian" killing that has happened in Northern Ireland (and there are tons and tons of them) can count as Christian Terrorist attacks.
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Yes they can, but they are not a threat to the U.S.......;)
 
I'm curious if anyone knows of any studies that look at the effectiveness of racial profiling in preventing or stopping terrorism. Is it even an effective tactic? I've seen studies that suggest it is for other types of crimes, but none about terrorism.
 
molten_dragon said:
I'm curious if anyone knows of any studies that look at the effectiveness of racial profiling in preventing or stopping terrorism. Is it even an effective tactic? I've seen studies that suggest it is for other types of crimes, but none about terrorism.
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How about 'just doing it' & make that the study?.....:)
Kind of like on the job training.....;)
 
SgtRock said:
This is not going to end in our lifetime. So either we get serious about this, and take off the gloves or eventually we will loose. Time is on their side. Sooner or later we are going to have to get mean and nasty. We need to understand the enemy, we need to know what his fears are, then we need to exploit those fears. We need to go medieval on his ass so to speak.
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It's not going to end in our lifetime, yet there's going to be a winner if we don't do anything about it.

The parallels in that paragraph are wrong, just saying.
 
I am for Profiling but not as an absolute policy. That would lead to the opposite problem, terrorits send a white guy through the line because he wouldn't be scutinized. So search all the middle eastern looking people and randomly everyone else.
 
Partisan said:
Yes they can, but they are not a threat to the U.S.......;)
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It's not called the American War on Islamic Attacks. It's called the Global War On Terror. Just sayin'.
 
Hatuey said:
It's not called the American War on Islamic Attacks. It's called the Global War On Terror. Just sayin'.
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Yup, but we need to focus on what affects us......;)
The Brits need to focus on what affects them.....;)
Fighting over any religious ideology is foolish, IMO....;)
 
Partisan said:
Yup, but we need to focus on what affects us......;)
The Brits need to focus on what affects them.....;)
Fighting over any religious ideology is foolish, IMO....;)
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I actually agree. What is confusing is that according to some of our defence people - the biggest imminent threat we face is from domestic groups when it comes to terrorism. Anti-abortion groups, environmentalists firebombing labs, fundy christians and the occasional Libertarian with way too much access to guns.
 
Hatuey said:
I actually agree. What is confusing is that according to some of our defence people - the biggest imminent threat we face is from domestic groups when it comes to terrorism. Anti-abortion groups, environmentalists firebombing labs, fundy christians and the occasional Libertarian with way too much access to guns.
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Yet another example of the levels of incompetence in government......:(
There will always be a kook with a cause...
Assuch, we must remain vigilant at all times....;)
 
Partisan said:
Yet another example of the levels of incompetence in government......:(
There will always be a kook with a cause...
Assuch, we must remain vigilant at all times....;)
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I meant that it's confusing because we've spent nearly a trillion dollars on a global war and so very little on the people operating within our country. I'm more concerned about people who state they want a new revolution, or that they want to fight the U.S. government than I am with people a few thousand miles away. Specially the true believers. You know. The ones who use words like freedom and liberty EVERY chance they get? Yeah. Those types are the ones we should be watching for.
 
It is a thousand times more likely that an American citizen will be killed by another American than by an Islamic extremist. Why are some here so afraid?
 
Frankly, this whole thing was a ****-up from the git-go.

The guy bought an overseas plane ticket with CASH. He had NO LUGGAGE.

HELLO!?!? :doh

If the airline counter people were better trained (or had a freakin' ounce of common sense) he would never have been sold a ticket in the first place.

Forget profiling, use some damned common sense, people! :2mad:
 
Hatuey said:
I actually agree. What is confusing is that according to some of our defence people - the biggest imminent threat we face is from domestic groups when it comes to terrorism. Anti-abortion groups, environmentalists firebombing labs, fundy christians and the occasional Libertarian with way too much access to guns.
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Indeed. Except for the last one because there's no such thing as way too much access to guns. But regardless, the government will tell us to fear those guys soon enough. Right now we need to be reminded why we're spending trillions in the ME fighting meaningless wars with pretty much no plan, no idea for success, no time table for it, and which will pretty much not improve anything. And for that one, we have to fear the ME terrorists. One huge ass government war + excuse at a time. When they want to start doing real time tracking of US citizens and monitoring of phone calls, travels, etc., they'll bring in the domestic terrorist as a force we need to be afraid of.
 
Dirty Harry said:
It is a thousand times more likely that an American citizen will be killed by another American than by an Islamic extremist. Why are some here so afraid?
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You would understand if you were old enough to remember 9/11.....;)
 
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