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Should you or your family members be able to sell your organs post mortem?

Should a person or that person's family be able to sell their organs post mortem?

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rathi said:
Organ donations save lives, and obviously have no use to dead people. Its downright annoying that we don't use the large amount of dead bodies we have for useful purposes. Anything that gets more use out of an otherwise wasted resource is a bonus in my book. The government can't be trusted with the power to force organ harvesting, but I wish people wouldn't sacrifice the needs of the living to the dead.
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The I recommend that you convince people to donate. I all for voluntary donation, but steadfastly opposed to confiscation.
 
Well - to be specific, the deceased wouldn't be selling their organs seeing as how they wouldn't be profiting - someone else would be selling them on their behalf or overseeing the process.

LOL

"Occupation"
Liver Pimp


Anyway - yeah, why not. I'm not a donor nor do I wish to ever receive - but that doesn't transfer to what others should be able to do.
 
I think that your(or your family if you are deceased) should be able to sell your organs to a healthcare institution. I don't think Bill should be able to sell his liver to a wealthy millionaire who drank too much scotch while some person with a liver problem who did not subject their liver to abuse dies. I certainley do not want to see a government mandate requiring you to donate organs.

Hopefully as stem cell research grows, this can all be a moot point. Particularly if we can avoid the trappings of embryonic stem cell useage.
 
Partisan said:
False, it is the oldest profession.....
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Every profession consists of selling yourself, not just 'the oldest one'. ;) We are ALL commodities to be 'sold', or more appropriately, 'leased'. Anyone who works any job does it on a daily basis.
 
WI Crippler said:
I think that your(or your family if you are deceased) should be able to sell your organs to a healthcare institution. I don't think Bill should be able to sell his liver to a wealthy millionaire who drank too much scotch while some person with a liver problem who did not subject their liver to abuse dies. I certainley do not want to see a government mandate requiring you to donate organs.

Hopefully as stem cell research grows, this can all be a moot point. Particularly if we can avoid the trappings of embryonic stem cell useage.
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Out of curiosity, you don't think I should be able to designate who my organs will go to if I die?
 
rivrrat said:
Out of curiosity, you don't think I should be able to designate who my organs will go to if I die?
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Tricky question. I don't think people that routinely abuse certain parts of their bodies should ever be candidates for organ transplant, or at the very most they ought to be at the bottom of the list. Alchoholics, smokers, people with other substance abuse issues. I'm not talking about people that have a few drinks or smoke a little pot. Just the ones that really put their bodies through the grinder. I'd rather see those clean organs go where they won't be subject to the same abuses. People don't need to believe they can get away with doing whatever they want, and avoid consequences for their actions.

However, I see the point about the organs being your property and its really your decision as to how they are used.

I'm kind of torn, thinking about it.
 
Jerry said:
The earliest records of prostitution were of women as slaves ;)
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Well the last time I checked if you didn't pay a prostitute that meant she was either a sex slavery or you were a thief.
 
rivrrat said:
Slaves are not prostitutes. They're slaves.
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There is nothing about "prostitute" which carries an inherent meaning of freedom. If her body is up for sale, it's prostitution, rather it's her choice or not.
 
Jerry said:
There is nothing about "prostitute" which carries an inherent meaning of freedom. If her body is up for sale, it's prostitution, rather it's her choice or not.
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Incorrect. SHE is not selling sex, her owner is. And if her body is up for sale, then that's not prostitution at all, that's selling humans. ie, slavery.
 
rivrrat said:
Incorrect. SHE is not selling sex, her owner is. And if her body is up for sale, then that's not prostitution at all, that's selling humans. ie, slavery.
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SHE doesn't need to be selling her body. If her body is for sale for sex, she is a prostitute.
 
Jerry said:
SHE doesn't need to be selling her body. If her body is for sale for sex, she is a prostitute.
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Really? So if someone sells my body to be a farm worker, I'm actually an farm worker and not a slave? I mean, my 'profession' is farm worker simply because that's what I'm being forced at gunpoint to sell my body for?

Weird. Who woulda thunk it? Slaves aren't slaves at all! They're all actually just various professionals.

No Jerry, if someone is forced to do something, they aren't a 'professional whatever-it-is-they-are-forced-to-do'. They're slaves. If someone puts me on a stand and auctions me off, and I'm purchased and forced at gunpoint to dance for my new owner, I am not a dancer. I'm a ****ing slave. A person whose body is sold against their will for ANYTHING is a slave. I'm not suddenly an accountant because my body is sold for that and I'm forced at gunpoint to do it.

In any case, this is completely irrelevant to the conversation and completely irrelevant to what I was saying to Partisan.
 
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Alright guys, look. Lemme break it down.

You're either a Freelance hooker and you work for yourself (which is frowned upon in the business) or you's somebody's ho, while it's not always "slavery" as they do receive money and gifts sometimes. If they's been turning lotsa tricks. Gnomesane?

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rivrrat said:
Really? So if someone sells my body to be a farm worker, I'm actually an farm worker and not a slave? I mean, my 'profession' is farm worker simply because that's what I'm being forced at gunpoint to sell my body for?

Weird. Who woulda thunk it? Slaves aren't slaves at all! They're all actually just various professionals.

No Jerry, if someone is forced to do something, they aren't a 'professional whatever-it-is-they-are-forced-to-do'. They're slaves. If someone puts me on a stand and auctions me off, and I'm purchased and forced at gunpoint to dance for my new owner, I am not a dancer. I'm a ****ing slave. A person whose body is sold against their will for ANYTHING is a slave. I'm not suddenly an accountant because my body is sold for that and I'm forced at gunpoint to do it.

In any case, this is completely irrelevant to the conversation and completely irrelevant to what I was saying to Partisan.
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Dps is dps, tank is tank, healz is healz, rather you're your in a guild raid, a random dungeon hero or a group quest pug. The job is the same.

If your body is a sexual commodity, you are a prostitute.
 
Jerry said:
Dps is dps, tank is tank, healz is healz, rather you're your in a guild raid, a random dungeon hero or a group quest pug. The job is the same.

If your body is a sexual commodity, you are a prostitute.
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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. If I'm forced to do anything I'm a slave, not a someone doing a job.
 
rivrrat said:
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. If I'm forced to do anything I'm a slave, not a someone doing a job.
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It's what kind of slave you are that makes my point.
 
Jerry said:
It's what kind of slave you are that makes my point.
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It's what you're getting in return for the work that defines slavery vs employee.


Though I guess you could be stuck in slave-like conditions as an employee. i.e. not being able to leave your ****ty sweatshop job because they'll kill you...
 
I say, YES (with restrictions).
My body is my property and I can do whatever I want with it and if I ‘will’ my body to my family, it becomes their property and can sell my parts.
 
peepnklown said:
I say, YES (with restrictions).
My body is my property and I can do whatever I want with it and if I ‘will’ my body to my family, it becomes their property and can sell my parts.
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This creates a financial opportunity which criminals have and would again exploit, costing many their lives.
 
peepnklown said:
I say, YES (with restrictions).
My body is my property and I can do whatever I want with it and if I ‘will’ my body to my family, it becomes their property and can sell my parts.
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Well I wouldn't say "whatever I want"...You can't have your corpse loaded with dynamite and then detonated on TV as a pay-per-view event. But I wouldn't stop you ;)
 
Jerry said:
The earliest records of prostitution were of women as slaves ;)
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Not necessarily. Many were temple prostitutes, and they were there freely, not as slaves. It was considered a great honor as their bodies represented the goddess, and their work was considered sacred, because it ensured the fertility of the earth. It all depends on how we view sex...as something corrupting and inherently dirty and sinful, or something affirming and life-giving.

I would blame your view of sex as dirty and corrupting on the puritanistic version of Christianity that you espouse.
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
It all depends on how we view sex...as something corrupting and inherently dirty and sinful, or something affirming and life-giving.
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I view sex as affirming and life-giving. It's the depersonalization and commoditization of it that I view as dirty and corrupting.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
I view sex as affirming and life-giving. It's the depersonalization and commoditization of it that I view as dirty and corrupting.
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Why don't you feel the same way about every profession? Such as... perhaps, the medical profession who perform services that are affirming and life-giving. Why aren't their services depersonalized and dirty and corrupting because money changes hands? If you think the exchange of money is so dirty and corrupting, then why do accept doing it daily?
 
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