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What winter holiday do you celebrate?

What winter holiday do you celebrate?

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Ethereal said:
My Christmas:

Wake up as we please. Mother is drunk, father is tense with anguish, and brother is off, God knows where!

Perhaps some presents under the tree, but no one is sure where they came from or who they're for. A tentative and palpable awkwardness permeates the air, culminating in a volcanic eruption of raw emotion and unrestrained vitriol.

Shouting and violent sobbing; venomous insults and bitter reprisals; an empty whiskey glass, shattering in the fireplace...
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(((((( Ethereal .... ))))))
 
Ethereal said:
My Christmas:

Wake up as we please. Mother is drunk, father is tense with anguish, and brother is off, God knows where!

Perhaps some presents under the tree, but no one is sure where they came from or who they're for. A tentative and palpable awkwardness permeates the air, culminating in a volcanic eruption of raw emotion and unrestrained vitriol.

Shouting and violent sobbing; venomous insults and bitter reprisals; an empty whiskey glass, shattering in the fireplace...
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Whoa.........tough room! Hope its better this year! :)
 
I'm just kidding. My Christmas is just your typical Christmas. We used to go to midnight mass, but the family isn't really religious anymore; we just open presents and have breakfast. Pretty boring, actually! But I still love Christmas time; just wish I could see more of my extended family, like when I was a kid; I miss my grandparents most of all.
 
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I celebrate on Mithras' birthday for the sake of convention and family, although the celebration is usually referred to by its adopted name of "Christmas"

On a tangent.. If you look at the word Christmas you will see that Mithras is in there as well (albeit a tad mixed up), and if you took "Christ" out of Christmas, you would also remove most of Mithras as well .
 
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jackalope said:
Rivrrat called her grandfather papaw, I bet it sounds similar. Did you read her fabulous toast to her recently deceased papaw in the tavern?
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No I didn't and we speak often because we play WOW together. She never told me...
 
Ethereal said:
I grew up Catholic. Not a bad religion, really.
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I actually liked it. It seems more balanced than fundamentalist evangelicalism. Fundamentalism seems to be about making everything taboo. There is no allowance for humanity. You aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to dance, you aren't supposed to enjoy your body at all....and don't even get me started on sex.

:roll:

My daughter's boyfriend's dad passed away in October, and we went to his (Catholic) funeral. There was an open bar, and it was such a celebration of his life. So different from how I grew up.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I actually liked it. It seems more balanced than fundamentalist evangelicalism. Fundamentalism seems to be about making everything taboo. There is no allowance for humanity. You aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to dance, you aren't supposed to enjoy your body at all....and don't even get me started on sex.

:roll:

My daughter's boyfriend's dad passed away in October, and we went to his (Catholic) funeral. There was an open bar, and it was such a celebration of his life. So different from how I grew up.
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Catholicism can be a very positive influence on families and communities if it's grounded in realism.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I actually liked it. It seems more balanced than fundamentalist evangelicalism. Fundamentalism seems to be about making everything taboo. There is no allowance for humanity. You aren't supposed to drink, you aren't supposed to dance, you aren't supposed to enjoy your body at all....and don't even get me started on sex.

:roll:

My daughter's boyfriend's dad passed away in October, and we went to his (Catholic) funeral. There was an open bar, and it was such a celebration of his life. So different from how I grew up.
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The funny thing about fundamentalism, is that when fundamentalists sometimes snap out of it, they go on thinking that religion is mostly fundamentalist, just like they were. So they learn to disbelieve in what they believed before, without realizing that the nature of religious experience could be quite different than the way they once understood it. The literalist, narrow, fundamentalist understanding of religion persists. It very rarely evolves.

The funny thing about this is that it often results in bitterness. The believer-turned-non-believer becomes bitter. Now that they've "seen the light" they must now lash out at their former religion and those that still practice it. They have to have a negative view towards it. This is natural, but it is also negative. When we dump something we tend to dislike it, this is how we move on.

Funny enough, the bible actually has a lot to say about bitterness.
Prov. 14:10
Jer. 2:19
James 3:14
Job. 9:17-18
Job. 21:25
Job 7:11, 10:1
Heb 12:15

The bible is interesting that way. It's full of clues as to how to understand our inner nature. But the bitter, former-fundamentalist already has the answers. They completely overlooked these passages when assessing the "truth" in scripture. Instead, they'll take the misunderstood "sword" passage out of context, and in English, and say, "see?" ... as if an anecdote, or a couple of anecdotes would disprove anything else, anyway.

It's all very unfortunate.
 
niftydrifty said:
The funny thing about fundamentalism, is that when fundamentalists sometimes snap out of it, they go on thinking that religion is mostly fundamentalist, just like they were. So they learn to disbelieve in what they believed before, without realizing that the nature of religious experience could be quite different than the way they once understood it. The literalist, narrow, fundamentalist understanding of religion persists. It very rarely evolves.

The funny thing about this is that it often results in bitterness. The believer-turned-non-believer becomes bitter. Now that they've "seen the light" they must now lash out at their former religion and those that still practice it. They have to have a negative view towards it. This is natural, but it is also negative. When we dump something we tend to dislike it, this is how we move on.

Funny enough, the bible actually has a lot to say about bitterness.
Prov. 14:10
Jer. 2:19
James 3:14
Job. 9:17-18
Job. 21:25
Job 7:11, 10:1
Heb 12:15

The bible is interesting that way. It's full of clues as to how to understand our inner nature. But the bitter, former-fundamentalist already has the answers. They completely overlooked these passages when assessing the "truth" in scripture. Instead, they'll take the misunderstood "sword" passage out of context, and in English, and say, "see?" ... as if an anecdote, or a couple of anecdotes would disprove anything else, anyway.

It's all very unfortunate.
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There is nothing like an incredibly condescending and self-righteous response to make us reconsider our rational positions on the illogical nature of the Christian faith. It's not like anyone's ever tried THAT approach before.

:mrgreen:
 
Catz Part Deux said:
There is nothing like an incredibly condescending and self-righteous response to make us reconsider our rational positions on the illogical nature of the Christian faith. It's not like anyone's ever tried THAT approach before.

:mrgreen:
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You're welcome. I tend to give what I get. It's all about the tone, huh? Nothing to say about the content?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
There is nothing like an incredibly condescending and self-righteous response to make us reconsider our rational positions on the illogical nature of the Christian faith. It's not like anyone's ever tried THAT approach before.

:mrgreen:
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I didn't find his post so much condescending as insightful, thoughtful, and evidence that he cares and has enough compassion for the bitterness and resentment you feel to try to help you through it.

And this is how you return the favor. :(
 
Christmas has always been about materialism, ALWAYS, and its cloaked with the idea "oh, its all for Jesus and God and blah blah blah."

I only really celebrate Diwali, which is never material in my family.
 
Cilogy said:
Christmas has always been about materialism, ALWAYS, and its cloaked with the idea "oh, its all for Jesus and God and blah blah blah."

I only really celebrate Diwali, which is never material in my family.
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That view is almost to sad to take in. I can't believe there are people so crushed by society's short-comings that they can't find personal joy in something so easy to find joy in.
 
jallman said:
That view is almost to sad to take in. I can't believe there are people so crushed by society's short-comings that they can't find personal joy in something so easy to find joy in.
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I guess morally, it serves me worse to go with the flow of Christmas, because it makes me feel cheap, rather than to ignore the majority of the "Christmas spirit."

That's probably doubled in Texas though, where people rub it in your face if your not Christian.

Just like Korimyr, I will wish people socially, but personally its all pointless.
 
I cannot answer this poll, because you left out the most important choice:

Flatus day - This is where I go throughout the world, spreading my winds of good will to all, and getting bricks thrown at me for my efforts.
 
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danarhea said:
I cannot answer this poll, because you left out the most important choice:

Flatus day - This is where I go throughout the world, spreading my winds of good will to all, and getting bricks thrown at me for my efforts.
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Flatulence day? That's everyday at my house.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
For the record, my favorite two holidays are:

1) Halloween
2) Talk like a pirate day
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Towel Day is my favorite holiday, although it is a young holiday, and still obscure.

http://www.towelday.org/


As far as talk like a pirate day, no need for it living in Tampa, we have get drunk, smoke cigars, and be a pirate day here, the annual Gasparilla parade and pirate invasion:

Gasparilla Pirate Fest - Tampa, Florida - The Parade of Pirates

it is kind of a fusion of your two favorite holidays, you may want to put it on your to do list to check out some day.
 
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My "personal" holiday celebration is Christmas. However, I have enjoyed going to many Hannukkah and Kwanza celebrations at friends houses...and go whenever I am invited. I invite my Jewish and non-Christian friends to my Christmas party every year...and they come and enjoy that as well.

That is what the "Holiday Season" is all about.
 
Epic and Catz are poll spoilers. :lol:
 
disneydude said:
My "personal" holiday celebration is Christmas. However, I have enjoyed going to many Hannukkah and Kwanza celebrations at friends houses...and go whenever I am invited. I invite my Jewish and non-Christian friends to my Christmas party every year...and they come and enjoy that as well.

That is what the "Holiday Season" is all about.
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Do you have your party at Hooters? :rofl Kidding
 
If it got foodz and alcoholic beverages involved I'll celebrate it.
 
Christmas more as a tradition than a religious holiday.
It's an occasion for my family to get together around a good dinner, good wine and presents. No tree, no decorations and no fake snow.
 
We celibrate the Solstice, I am starting to collect the wood for the bonfire and my wife is weaving a special thong for me out of holly, well I think that is what she means, she said I was going to be the biggest prick at the bonfire:)
 
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