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How do you feel about income?

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Wealth increases. Production increases. I'm not just talking about inflation here.

Sure, but an across the board increase in incomes does not suggest an overall increase in anyone's condition. Perhaps value was added to the market, but what does that mean for buying power?
 
Sure, but an across the board increase in incomes does not suggest an overall increase in anyone's condition. Perhaps value was added to the market, but what does that mean for buying power?

It means that people can buy more than they previously could, or at least buy things of more value.
 
Everyone just loves to be a libertarian these days. High wages does not prosperity bring. You have it backwards.

Prosperity brings high wages, and high wages bring prosperity. You can have it forwards, or backwards. It works either way.
 
Economically speaking, it is better to have a thousand millionaires than one billionaire....
 
I'd rather have the market decide what someone should get paid, and who gives a flying donut about income "disparity"?
 
The higher the income disparity, the smaller the middle class. That's a recipe for social instability-- and when a handful of people are making thousands of times as much money as their employees, it means large amounts of money are being siphoned out of the productive economy instead of circulating properly.

Let me guess, you must believe that rich people put their money in their mattresses.

No.

People with piles of money INVEST it. A strange concept, but it means they put it into companies they believe are going to grow, and thus they fuel the economy.

There's not a damn thing wrong with "income disparity" if that disparity is the natural product of successful free market enterprise.
 
Economically speaking, it is better to have a thousand millionaires than one billionaire....

Money is like manure. Spread it around, and it can do a lot of good. If you pile it all up in one place, it just smells to high heaven.
 
Just consider a graph where the x-axis is the wealth that you have and the y-axis is amount of people. Would you rather the distribution be tighter about some value on the x-axis or where everyone moves up on the x-axis but the distribution grows larger?

And what does that tell me? Nothing.

You are plainly ignoring that costs are what defines wealth. Your poll sucks for that reason.
 
How do you feel about income?

I like income. I would like to have more income. :mrgreen:
 
Let me guess, you must believe that rich people put their money in their mattresses.

No.

People with piles of money INVEST it. A strange concept, but it means they put it into companies they believe are going to grow, and thus they fuel the economy.

There's not a damn thing wrong with "income disparity" if that disparity is the natural product of successful free market enterprise.

The money is better for the economy if it is spent on products that are made by factories that hire employees
 
The money is better for the economy if it is spent on products that are made by factories that hire employees

Or orders materials from companies that hire employees. A heavily automated plant that orders large amounts of new raw materials should result in additional jobs down the supply chain.
 
Economically speaking, it is better to have a thousand millionaires than one billionaire....

It's better to have people with an incentive to work hard and innovate.
 
The money is better for the economy if it is spent on products that are made by factories that hire employees


And yet unless someone, or some group (ie investors with surplus money) had the capital to invest in the first place, that factory would not exist and would not be producing those goods.

Having 1,000 uber-rich fat-cats who own almost everything, while the teeming millions live in abject poverty, is not good: it is commonly the condition of many 3rd-world countries and dictatorships.

Having ~1000 uber-rich capitalists, hundreds of thousands of millionaires, millions of middle-class small-biz owners or high-demand professionals, and tens of millions of well-paid specialists makes for a more well-rounded economy, and that is what the US has. (numbers highly approximate btw.) In this situation, a rising tide really does lift all boats. If companies and capitalists have more money, they invest more, expand businesses, and that means more jobs, more promotions, more raises for most people.

I'm not jealous of Bill Gates. :mrgreen: He could buy and sell a million of me, but also he has worries I don't have.

There's a local tycoon named Roger Milliken, who owns most of the textile biz in upstate SC. I've met the man and know a bit about him. He's worth over 400 million the last time I checked. He works like a dog, 60-80 hours a week, keeping his businesses going. His cellphone rings day and night, he's chained to the thing. His social events are really business meetings with cocktails and music. Someone in his organization told me he hadn't taken a vacation in years. He's old, and he looks it; running that corporation has taken such a toll on him I'm amazed he's still alive.

I wouldn't want to be him, but if it wasn't for someone like him those textile plants would have gone to South America or Asia twenty years ago and several thousand people would have lost jobs locally. Well-paying jobs.
 
What does that ultimately mean for buying power? If every child in a class is given an equal amount of free points would it change the result of the curve, i.e. is anyone really better off?

Ding ding ding! Give that person a gold star.

If you gave every American a million dollars (approximate cost 300 Trillion total :shock:), then prices would of necessity soar, because there would be more money than goods/services. A million dollars would quickly become the equivelent to 30,000 dollars in actual buying power... net result nada.
 
Ding ding ding! Give that person a gold star.

If you gave every American a million dollars (approximate cost 300 Trillion total :shock:), then prices would of necessity soar, because there would be more money than goods/services. A million dollars would quickly become the equivelent to 30,000 dollars in actual buying power... net result nada.

Except that's not what I'm asking in this question. I'm really asking whether you want progress or equality.
 
Except that's not what I'm asking in this question. I'm really asking whether you want progress or equality.

Progress, always progress. But sometimes progress has to slow down in the name of stability.

Equality, I couldn't care less about.
 
Except that's not what I'm asking in this question. I'm really asking whether you want progress or equality.


Progress is more important.

A vast inequity such as you see in 3rd-world countries (a few very rich, millions of desperately poor) would not be good for the economy or the country as a whole, which would be my only concern about equality.
 
I don't like income tax.

I don't see how the United States has any legitimacy to take money from the "fruits of my labor". There's another term for taking a percentage of someone else's toil -- extortion?

Income tax was created to pay for World War I. It should have died out after that but some greedy scumbags made sure it did not.

Income tax needs to be abolished.
 
Buying power still goes up as time goes by. In 1900. The dollar was worhtt 20xs what it does today. However the average income was less than $500 or about $10,000 today. The average peson's paycheck couldn't carry them as far as today. Printing money won't make anyone richer, but creating new wealth does

Average Income in the United States Visualizing Economics
 
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