• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Is racism wrong?

Is racism wrong?

  • Yes

    Votes: 88 83.8%

  • No

    Votes: 15 14.3%

  • There is no such thing as racism

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Total voters
    105
Tucker Case said:
Nothing. that's why I'm tolerant of racists. ;)

I just have a personal value regarding tolerance. If someone were to confide in me that they had racist views, I wouldn't judge them for it. I would seek to find out why they hold those views and then work with them to find out if they want to change those views.
Click to expand...

Again, that reflects a difference between racist thoughts and racist actions.
 
EpicDude86 said:
Well i'm sorry I didn't take the definition from the Misterman-Webster Dictionary. My apologies.
Click to expand...

I'm just saying I disagree with it. I can disagree with a dictionary if I want to. Dictionaries aren't perfect and they aren't absolute either.
 
misterman said:
I'm just saying I disagree with it. I can disagree with a dictionary if I want to. Dictionaries aren't perfect and they aren't absolute either.
Click to expand...


Yes, but when a respected and popular dictionary puts out a definition it's usually a good idea to consider that the right definition.


Racism is discrimination based on race. Really nothing more to it. Bigotry and Prejudice have their own definitions too, so we have to apply them correctly because if everyone said..."Eh I disagree with that definition" then what's the point in even having a dictionary? Instead of disagreeing with a definition, how about finding a more proper word that fits what you're thinking about?
 
EpicDude86 said:
Tell me how you came to that conclusion.


Note: I didn't reference any specific cultures.


Ok...GO!
Click to expand...

When we debate something with no universally accepted definition of what that something means, then we get conclusions that are not comprehensible to most of the readers. Have you read any discussions of liberal vs. conservative? Now, there are terms with conflicting definitions.
 
EpicDude86 said:
Yes, but when a respected and popular dictionary puts out a definition it's usually a good idea to consider that the right definition.
Click to expand...

No it isn't. Especially when even dictionaries disagree with each other.

There are two kinds of dictionaries - descriptive and prescriptive.

Racism is discrimination based on race. Really nothing more to it.
Click to expand...

Pretty close to my definition - and not the dictionary's.

Discrimination in thought as well as action.

Bigotry and Prejudice have their own definitions too
Click to expand...

Yes, but racism is simply a kind of bigotry or prejudice.

so we have to apply them correctly because if everyone said..."Eh I disagree with that definition" then what's the point in even having a dictionary? Instead of disagreeing with a definition, how about finding a more proper word that fits what you're thinking about?
Click to expand...

Word meanings aren't fixed.
 
I believe the way everybody is defining everything as racism these days is wrong.
 
As citizens of advanced countries it is our duty to be tolerant of all our fellow citizens. And to promote tolerance.
 
Dittohead not! said:
So, how do you define it?
Click to expand...

I know it when I see it. It is derogatory in nature for the sake of demeaning. But when someone is criticizing a fact of history, humanity, culture, or any other thing that pertains to any given situation I don't rush to define racism.

The fear of being a "racist" has people subscribing to stupid things.
 
Last edited:
sazerac said:
As citizens of advanced countries it is our duty to be tolerant of all our fellow citizens. And to promote tolerance.
Click to expand...

Yes, we should be intolerant of intolerance.
 
GySgt said:
I know it when I see it. It is derogatory in nature for the sake of demeaning. But when someone is criticizing a fact of history, humanity, culture, or any other thing that pertains to any given situation I don't rush to define racism.

The fear of being a "racist" has people subscribing to stupid things.
Click to expand...

So, you can't define it, b ut the way others have defined it is wrong. Is that correct?
 
sazerac said:
As citizens of advanced countries it is our duty to be tolerant of all our fellow citizens. And to promote tolerance.
Click to expand...

Our fellow citizens, certainly. Not foreigners. Too much tolerance of alien behavior leads to a decay of native culture.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Our fellow citizens, certainly. Not foreigners. Too much tolerance of alien behavior leads to a decay of native culture.
Click to expand...

What kind of foreigners were your ancestors?
 
EpicDude86 said:
There's a difference between respecting your kin and respecting those who won't show you the same respect for the same reason.
Click to expand...

Doesn't answer my question, and not Rat's point either.

But you do realize that everything you say about the new foreigners was said about the previous ones, right? Our ancestors were bashed as drunken lazy non-assimilating aliens too.
 
misterman said:
Doesn't answer my question, and not Rat's point either.

But you do realize that everything you say about the new foreigners was said about the previous ones, right? Our ancestors were bashed as drunken lazy non-assimilating aliens too.
Click to expand...

Everything was said about immigrants coming here, not foreigners who have no intention of becoming American. And yeah, it does have to do with what Korimyr said. He makes a damn fine point. We ought to be tolerant of our Countrymen because we have to live with then. As for Foreigners, they need to earn our respect and we need to earn theirs, it's not a 'given'. And if they talk **** about America, Americans, or attack America, then they don't get any respect or tolerance.
 
EpicDude86 said:
Everything was said about immigrants coming here, not foreigners who have no intention of becoming American.
Click to expand...

Huh? Who is that? Illegals? They have no intention of becoming American? Only because they aren't allowed to. Or do you mean those who won't assimilate? That's exactly what I'm talking about.

And yeah, it does have to do with what Korimyr said. He makes a damn fine point. We ought to be tolerant of our Countrymen because we have to live with then. As for Foreigners, they need to earn our respect and we need to earn theirs, it's not a 'given'. And if they talk **** about America, Americans, or attack America, then they don't get any respect or tolerance.
Click to expand...

I think he was saying much more than that. We should ask him.
 
misterman said:
Huh? Who is that? Illegals? They have no intention of becoming American? Only because they aren't allowed to. Or do you mean those who won't assimilate? That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Click to expand...

I was referring to our ancestors, why must you got off topic? Oh right, to make your point. I get you now.


misterman said:
I think he was saying much more than that. We should ask him.
Click to expand...

Probably :lol: Sometimes I don't get him on the first few reads of his posts. :D
 
misterman said:
What kind of foreigners were your ancestors?
Click to expand...

Well, they came through Ellis Island for starters.....;)
Not over the non existant southern border, on a raft, or a container ship....;)
 
misterman said:
Doesn't answer my question, and not Rat's point either.

But you do realize that everything you say about the new foreigners was said about the previous ones, right? Our ancestors were bashed as drunken lazy non-assimilating aliens too.
Click to expand...

I'll wager no one said that about Albert Einstein....;)
 
Partisan said:
Well, they came through Ellis Island for starters.....;)
Not over the non existant southern border, on a raft, or a container ship....;)
Click to expand...

Ellis Island? A bunch of dirty, diseased, probably socialist subhumans with a strange foreign religion who refused to be like real Americans and didn't care about our culture and democratic traditions?

(Hope you get my point).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom