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Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

  • Yes, China does;

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • No, China doesn't;

    Votes: 30 69.8%

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Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States?

US President Obama claimed that the Unitd States wished to co-govern the world with China. As for this statement, Premier Wen of China refused with three causes:

First, China is the most highly populated country in the world and it had a long way to walk to build a modernized country. Thus, China should keep awake time to time;

Second, China has been pursuing an ...
[ame=http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=9107][Discussion] Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States? - Global Times Forum--Discuss China,Discuss the world--The Most Open and Objective Forum in China[/ame]
As an indian, i think it is really funny!
 
Why not.. they did it once before after all... well the known world :)
 
When?
What's the details?

Guess you have not take history class? China was an Empire long before most European countries were even formed for example. They dominated the "known" world in almost all the same aspects as the US has done the last 50 years.
 
Guess you have not take history class? China was an Empire long before most European countries were even formed for example. They dominated the "known" world in almost all the same aspects as the US has done the last 50 years.

China had no empire in its dynastic eras. It had natural land fortifications in the form of ocean and mountain, leaving only its Northern passage vulnerable to invasion. This was why the Great Wall was built. It was isolationist and xenophobic by nature, although it did consider itself the centre of civilization in the known world. The surrounding Asian nations were tributary states to the Chinese emperor, and this afforded them economic benefits.

If what you actually meant to say is that China had advancement from early on, you would be correct. Until after the 1600's, China was the most advanced nation on the planet technologically; however, they did not "dominate" anyone.
 
They WERE the known world. For much of it, theirs was the only polity in town. Assuming that any country is capable of "governing the world" why should they settle for mere co-governance?
 
China had no empire in its dynastic eras. It had natural land fortifications in the form of ocean and mountain, leaving only its Northern passage vulnerable to invasion. This was why the Great Wall was built. It was isolationist and xenophobic by nature, although it did consider itself the centre of civilization in the known world. The surrounding Asian nations were tributary states to the Chinese emperor, and this afforded them economic benefits.

If what you actually meant to say is that China had advancement from early on, you would be correct. Until after the 1600's, China was the most advanced nation on the planet technologically; however, they did not "dominate" anyone.

I agree and disagree.

First and most important, we have to be very distinctive in "govern the world" bit. When China was a dominant country the world was a very very large place and most people still thought the world was flat and had never heard of China (those in Europe that is). Today the world is a small place.

Hence when we do such comparisons we must take that into account. This means the world back then was "geographic" regions where certain countries or peoples were dominant. In Europe it was the Romans, Greeks and so on. In Asia it was very very much the Chinese.

So in the geographic area of Asia, China did "govern the world" so to say by its military might, political might and its technology might. Yes it was some what isolationist, and yet it did expand its borders time and time again. But the constant wars and famines had its toll and pushed the Empire time and time again to the brink of breakup. But that does not change the fact that very few peoples in Asia did not "fear and respect" the Chinese much like the world does with the US today on a global scale.

So that is what I mean when I say "they have done it before".

I could say the same of the Spanish, British, Romans, Greeks, Iran/Iraq, and others if they had the same economic/military/technology/political might as they once had.. but of course they dont.

But yes they were very dominant in technology at the time... in fact I would claim much more than the US was at one point.
 
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The country will not become a true economic superpower until it frees it's people from such an authoritarian regime. Not only will this improve the nations credibility, but it will allow a true middle class to emerge thereby having a long run economic growth engine in their stable.

In 20 years take a few give a few.
 
Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the USA?

Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States?

US President Obama claimed that the Unitd States wished to co-govern the world with China. As for this statement, Premier Wen of China refused with three causes:

First, China is the most highly populated country in the world and it had a long way to walk to build a modernized country. Thus, China should keep awake time to time;

Second, China has been pursuing an ...
[Discussion] Does China have the capabilities to co-govern the world with the United States? - Global Times Forum--Discuss China,Discuss the world--The Most Open and Objective Forum in China
As an indian, i think it is really funny!

Did our idiot president say something as stupid as that? It's perfectly believable that he would think so.

There's only one problem.

Americans have no desire to govern the world.

That's a disease the Europeans suffer from.
 
They WERE the known world. For much of it, theirs was the only polity in town. Assuming that any country is capable of "governing the world" why should they settle for mere co-governance?

The One Ring fits only one finger at a time.
 
I don't think we should encourage any communist government. And the Chinese government is a damned bad one at that. They work for themselves and themselves alone. Somehow have bamboozled the people into thinking they should live for the State as well. China exerts well too much control over its people, more so than even the US. Those types of fascist governments should not be encouraged.
 
There's only one problem.

Americans have no desire to govern the world.

Americans in general don't want to govern the world. Obama the man may want to govern the world.;) (and he probably believes he could do it well).
 
I don't think we should encourage any communist government. And the Chinese government is a damned bad one at that. They work for themselves and themselves alone. Somehow have bamboozled the people into thinking they should live for the State as well. China exerts well too much control over its people, more so than even the US. Those types of fascist governments should not be encouraged.

The U.S. sold out a long time ago. The USSR was the main concern. Once capitalism won, anyone who endorsed it became a partner. China is communist in sociopolitical policy, but economically it's as capitalist as they come. That means the U.S. is their devoted ally.

All this talk about how our governments don't support Chinese oppression is just a bunch of crappy platitudes. Our governments don't intrinsically care about human rights when it comes down to it. In the current arrangement, money talks louder than humanity. China serves our capitalism, so their people can rot for all we care.
 
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Capitalist USA is falling behind with a record public debt of $12 trillion. China is now the third largest econonomy. It will overtake Japan in 5 years time. China will be the next superpower in about 20 years time. You guys are too engrossed with freedom and thats tearing you apart.
 
Americans in general don't want to govern the world. Obama the man may want to govern the world.;) (and he probably believes he could do it well).

Obama isn't a American, he's a socialist. Real Americans aren't socialists.
 
Capitalist USA is falling behind with a record public debt of $12 trillion. China is now the third largest econonomy. It will overtake Japan in 5 years time. China will be the next superpower in about 20 years time. You guys are too engrossed with freedom and thats tearing you apart.

You mean socialist USA.

Capitalism isn't the process whereby trillions are stolen via taxation to pay people to sit around on their thumbs.

That's socialism.

If we were a free country, we wouldn't have $12T in debt. All that debt can be traced to freedom destroying socialist programs.
 
You mean socialist USA.

Capitalism isn't the process whereby trillions are stolen via taxation to pay people to sit around on their thumbs.

That's socialism.

If we were a free country, we wouldn't have $12T in debt. All that debt can be traced to freedom destroying socialist programs.

What do you mean?
You mean that the US isnot a free country?
 
Obama isn't a American, he's a socialist. Real Americans aren't socialists.

But you guys voted for a non-american. Vote wisely next time and don't be fooled.
 
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You mean socialist USA.

Capitalism isn't the process whereby trillions are stolen via taxation to pay people to sit around on their thumbs.

That's how you stabilize/protect capitalism :2wave:
 
Did our idiot president say something as
Americans have no desire to govern the world.

That's bull.

We can't rule the world anymore.

China is going to overtake us as the world's most powerful and influential country.

That's simply because China does produce things. We don't make anything.

Our economy is worthless paper-pushing.
 
But you guys voted for a non-american. Vote wisely next time and don't be fooled.


Are you really from Singapore?
Are you familiar with your senior minister,Lee Kuan Yew?
I saw a English site in China are quarrelling about Lee and his speach in the United States.
What's your opinion on his speach on China in the States?
 
Are you really from Singapore?
Are you familiar with your senior minister,Lee Kuan Yew?
I saw a English site in China are quarrelling about Lee and his speach in the United States.
What's your opinion on his speach on China in the States?

Yeah I am singaporean. He is a well respected statesman by the chinese leaders and the rest of the world. I heard abt that. He was just emphasizing the importance of US presence in Asia. China can pose a threat, so the world's policeman (US) need to pull up their socks to counter the chinese threat. So naturally the chinaman will get a little mad.
 
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